Re: Hatton will fight again it seems.
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kostya is overrated. that style would've never lasted him past his physical prime.
And what style is that? Knocking most of his opponents out? A 13 Year Professional career with just 2 losses, and a World Champion for 10 years? If KT is overrated then Ricky Hatton is a walking advert for skinny milk?
he wouldn't have had his rib cages battered by Hatton if he had better grasp of technique. kostya's a good fighter sure... excellent timing and sense of distance. but that outdated Euro stance with the left hand extended mmm.
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Koysta Tzyu was extremely underrated. I however stand by my assertion that Kevin Rooney would have been the perfect trainer for Hatton
Re: Hatton will fight again it seems.
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If he sticks to the Diaz's and the Khan's of the world, he should be ok (though I think Khan can and will beat him), but I can't see him surviving against big punchers at this point.
Too be honest i'd hate to see Khan-Hatton. At this stage i think Khan bludgens him. I don't think Hatton deserves that, plus i couldn't stand how Khan talked about MAB after he beat him - he was saying nice things but at the same time being UNBELIEVABLY patronising.
Forgive me if you've addressed this later, but I'm responding on my first run through this thread. But.....
You think Hatton doesn't deserved to get bludgeoned at this stage? Did you think that Kostya deserved to be literally bludgeoned by Hatton at that stage of his career? I say its karma!
Re: Hatton will fight again it seems.
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Have the feeling he'll end up with Juan Diaz.Not sure where he will be mentally and physically but wouldn't mind he and Bradley going at it.
A much better chance with Diaz. Bradley is peaking and is way too fit and fast for him IMO.
Diaz may be done. If Ricky could cut him early, he might have a decent chance of mugging him, but I just don't see how he can come back after having been concussed the way he was from Manny.
Think your right about a Bradley fight.Two guys going in opposite directions.Diaz/Hatton has the style not to mention promotional attraction,think GB really wants it.Both guys sliding fast.Diaz not a big puncher but he wobbled Marquez and Paulie off lefthooks.Could be bad news for Hatton.
You gotta be kidding. Juan Diaz would be worse for Hatton than Bradley. With Bradley it would be over quick, the damage relatively minimal. Diaz is not a one-punch KOer, he would pound Hatton over the course of many rounds until Hatton retired on his stool or God forbid, it went to a very lopsided decision. Diaz would do a lot more damage because he can't knock Hatton out with one punch like Bradley would.
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For what its worth im never one to post a friend of a friend has told me etc as i find these types of posts tedious
But a very VERY good pal of mine who trains in rickys gym informed me the other day when i asked about ricky that he is now in proper pre fight training and has even been spotted hitting punchbags for the 1st time since the pac loss
Can assure anyone not in the know that ricky is planning a comeback sometime next year
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For what its worth im never one to post a friend of a friend has told me etc as i find these types of posts tedious
But a very VERY good pal of mine who trains in rickys gym informed me the other day when i asked about ricky that he is now in proper pre fight training and has even been spotted hitting punchbags for the 1st time since the pac loss
Can assure anyone not in the know that ricky is planning a comeback sometime next year
I saw this posted the other day on the Hatton forum. You barely notice Matthew Hatton because of the noisy git hitting the bag behind him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kY9k...layer_embedded
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For what its worth im never one to post a friend of a friend has told me etc as i find these types of posts tedious
But a very VERY good pal of mine who trains in rickys gym informed me the other day when i asked about ricky that he is now in proper pre fight training and has even been spotted hitting punchbags for the 1st time since the pac loss
Can assure anyone not in the know that ricky is planning a comeback sometime next year
I saw this posted the other day on the Hatton forum. You barely notice Matthew Hatton because of the noisy git hitting the bag behind him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kY9k...layer_embedded
Who is that noisy fat bastard in the back ground ;D
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hattonthehammer
For what its worth im never one to post a friend of a friend has told me etc as i find these types of posts tedious
But a very VERY good pal of mine who trains in rickys gym informed me the other day when i asked about ricky that he is now in proper pre fight training and has even been spotted hitting punchbags for the 1st time since the pac loss
Can assure anyone not in the know that ricky is planning a comeback sometime next year
I saw this posted the other day on the Hatton forum. You barely notice Matthew Hatton because of the noisy git hitting the bag behind him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kY9k...layer_embedded
there you go, hammer never gives out false information
PS:Anyone realise around the 1.17 mark in that vid ricky realises his pizza is cooked ;D;D;D
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ryanman89
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If he sticks to the Diaz's and the Khan's of the world, he should be ok (though I think Khan can and will beat him), but I can't see him surviving against big punchers at this point.
Too be honest i'd hate to see Khan-Hatton. At this stage i think Khan bludgens him. I don't think Hatton deserves that, plus i couldn't stand how Khan talked about MAB after he beat him - he was saying nice things but at the same time being UNBELIEVABLY patronising.
Forgive me if you've addressed this later, but I'm responding on my first run through this thread. But.....
You think Hatton doesn't deserved to get bludgeoned at this stage? Did you think that Kostya deserved to be literally bludgeoned by Hatton at that stage of his career? I say its karma!
No i didn't think Kostya deserved to be bludgeoned. I don't think any fighter does. So Hatton getting battered now would be karma? Karma for what? I don't think he commited a crime by beating KT.
Also, going into the fight Kostya was in good form, and hadn't really shown much sign of deteriation. The same cannot be said for Hatton. But regardless, i don't see how Hatton deserves the 'karma' of taking a beating just because he beat KT.
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A much better chance with Diaz. Bradley is peaking and is way too fit and fast for him IMO.
Diaz may be done. If Ricky could cut him early, he might have a decent chance of mugging him, but I just don't see how he can come back after having been concussed the way he was from Manny.
Think your right about a Bradley fight.Two guys going in opposite directions.Diaz/Hatton has the style not to mention promotional attraction,think GB really wants it.Both guys sliding fast.Diaz not a big puncher but he wobbled Marquez and Paulie off lefthooks.Could be bad news for Hatton.
You gotta be kidding. Juan Diaz would be worse for Hatton than Bradley. With Bradley it would be over quick, the damage relatively minimal. Diaz is not a one-punch KOer, he would pound Hatton over the course of many rounds until Hatton retired on his stool or God forbid, it went to a very lopsided decision. Diaz would do a lot more damage because he can't knock Hatton out with one punch like Bradley would.
Don't know about that ??It looks like Hatton is jumping to Cruiserweight soon so it may not matter.
No telling what,if anything,Hatton has left coming off of a brutal KO like that against Pac.But if he had to choose between a Bradley and a Diaz,IF he continues and has anything left in the tank....Hatton stands a better chance with Diaz who looks a bit on the slide and is only 1 fight in at 140....a lose.Where as I think Bradley drives Hatton like a nail in short order!
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DAWGSWIN
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Too be honest i'd hate to see Khan-Hatton. At this stage i think Khan bludgens him. I don't think Hatton deserves that, plus i couldn't stand how Khan talked about MAB after he beat him - he was saying nice things but at the same time being UNBELIEVABLY patronising.
Forgive me if you've addressed this later, but I'm responding on my first run through this thread. But.....
You think Hatton doesn't deserved to get bludgeoned at this stage? Did you think that Kostya deserved to be literally bludgeoned by Hatton at that stage of his career? I say its karma!
No i didn't think Kostya deserved to be bludgeoned. I don't think any fighter does. So Hatton getting battered now would be karma? Karma for what? I don't think he commited a crime by beating KT.
Also, going into the fight Kostya was in good form, and hadn't really shown much sign of deteriation. The same cannot be said for Hatton. But regardless, i don't see how Hatton deserves the 'karma' of taking a beating just because he beat KT.
I was speaking more from the perspective of my lack of respect for the tactics that Hatton was allowed to use for the majority of his career.
In my original post I never said he "deserved" anything. I simply asked if KT deserved what he got. On the contrary, I think Hatton has gotten more than he deserved.
I don't want Hatton to be hurt, nor do I want him to fight again. But if he decides to and gets mugged/rough-housed into submission by a younger fighter, then clearly this an example of karma.
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DAWGSWIN
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ryanman89
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DAWGSWIN
Forgive me if you've addressed this later, but I'm responding on my first run through this thread. But.....
You think Hatton doesn't deserved to get bludgeoned at this stage? Did you think that Kostya deserved to be literally bludgeoned by Hatton at that stage of his career? I say its karma!
No i didn't think Kostya deserved to be bludgeoned. I don't think any fighter does. So Hatton getting battered now would be karma? Karma for what? I don't think he commited a crime by beating KT.
Also, going into the fight Kostya was in good form, and hadn't really shown much sign of deteriation. The same cannot be said for Hatton. But regardless, i don't see how Hatton deserves the 'karma' of taking a beating just because he beat KT.
I was speaking more from the perspective of my lack of respect for the tactics that Hatton was allowed to use for the majority of his career.
In my original post I never said he "deserved" anything. I simply asked if KT deserved what he got. On the contrary, I think Hatton has gotten more than he deserved.
I don't want Hatton to be hurt, nor do I want him to fight again. But if he decides to and gets mugged/rough-housed into submission by a younger fighter, then clearly this an example of karma.
But your first post implied somehow that as i don't think Hatton deserves to get bludgened by the likes of Khan, i thought KT did deserve it.
In fact, i'm not saying Hatton is any different to any other boxer, its always sad to see a proud champion beaten into retirement, especially by an inferior boxer. But there are a couple of differences between the KT situation and the Hatton one. Firstly, Kostya had good form going into the Hatton fight whilst Hatton doesn't have good form going into a possible Khan fight. Secondly, Hatton is a better fighter than Khan. So Hatton was a more worthy final opponent for Kostya than Khan would be for Hatton.