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It seems im with the minority on this one. I just carnt seem to right Pac off after what he has done in recent fights. No-one would have predicted what was going to happen against DLH and Hatton, who's to say he carnt do the same again.
Every time ya right Pac off he comes back and bites ya in the ass, so on that basis Pac beats Cotto.
Actually you are in the majorityQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
Pacquiao = 1/2 = -200
Cotto = 28/15 = +186
As a matter of fact I can't see a book that has Cotto as the favorite.
Granted the odds will shift a bit in the next two weeks, but barring some
weird injury PAC will stay the favorite.
Manny Pacquiao v Miguel Angel Cotto Win Market Betting Odds
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Originally Posted by killersheepActually you are in the majorityQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattyhitman
Pacquiao = 1/2 = -200
Cotto = 28/15 = +186
As a matter of fact I can't see a book that has Cotto as the favorite.
Granted the odds will shift a bit in the next two weeks, but barring some
weird injury PAC will stay the favorite.
Manny Pacquiao v Miguel Angel Cotto Win Market Betting Odds
Wahoo, just seems more peeps on this thread are going for Cotto.
A mate of mine put 150 on Cotto to win 13/8, bloody wasting his money for me mind :rolleyes:
Hatton did get close to Pac in the 1st round before he got hurt.I think it will take Cotto alittle longer because he will box his way in not rush like Hatton. As long as he can weather the first few rounds and the cut doesnt open up i see him pushing Manny back and stopping him around the 6th.
It all depends if pac has the speed advantage or not. If he has a sizeable speed advantage i'm going with pac. If the speed is equal between the two, i will pick no one because it iis a toss up.
Manny is faster than Cotto,Cotto fought Mosley who was alot faster than him and he did well against the speed.Timing kills speed if he can time Manny right.Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
I pick Cotto by TKO. He's got the size advantage, he hits harder, and he is a good enough technical boxer to land regularly. He also has pretty good defense. Cotto has beaten faster fighters before and the difference between Clottey and pac-man is that Clottey is virtually unhurtable, Pac ain't.
have you brits not predicted the same for the hatton-pacquiao fight? you said hatton is too much for pacquiao. now you're saying the same crap. i would love to see you proven wrong again. go brits false prophets!
For Cotto to win, it will depend on a few factors. This is his first big fight since the Margarito bout. Did that brutal battle take something out of him or is he mentally ready for another huge fight? Physically, he will forced to come in at 145. While this may not seem like a dramatic difference from 147...you never know how a fighter will deal with, energy wise, losing a few pounds. Cotto also has a young, inexperienced trainer in his corner...you almost get the sense that he is coaching himself for this fight. This point leads to he biggest factor: strategy. Cotto is by no means slow...his speed is in fact underrated. But Pac is clearly faster and most likely will have better stamina. So Cotto needs to fight a controlled and intelligent fight. If he goes in simply trying to chase Pac down, pin him against the ropes, and hope to overpower him...he will lose...and maybe lose badly. Pac, for all his improvements, still lunges in on his punches/flurries. Marquez laid out the blueprint on what needs to be done against Manny...you need to be an effective counter puncher. Cotto needs to use his terrific jab to draw Manny in and counter him. If he does this effectively...he can set up for the power shots as the fight progresses. Hopefully it will be great fight.
false?? lennox lewis beat every man in front of him! Dick head!
Early? maybe late? No way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tysonbruno
Cotto should end it before round 6 or Pac totally punish him en route to a KO.
Pac picks it up as the rounds go. he'll be more dangerous in the 2nd half of the fight. wherein Cotto fades. Pac can also end it early so cotto should go for it in the 1st 5 rounds.
Mosley has fast hands but his foot speed isnt comparable to Pac's or maybe he has great food speed but he doesnt use it much.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebifManny is faster than Cotto,Cotto fought Mosley who was alot faster than him and he did well against the speed.Timing kills speed if he can time Manny right.Quote:
Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer
Honestly i'm leaning for Pac on this one.... Cotto is a monster and think that in every way he should have it over Pac, but there are a few reasons I give more of a shot than I should.
He's been at that weight for a while now. Marquez coming up was always going to be weak as pi$$ against Mayweather. I think Pac having been above 140 for his last 3 fights (well 140 for hatton), he'd be wearing that weight much better now..
His speed is going to split Cotto.. Cotto has good footwork and is going to take a pounding, and his defence will certainly be a damn shite better than DLH and Hatton put together, but cotto isn't exactly unhittable...
My biggest influence in looking at the potential of how the fight could play out from a certain angle is Cotto/Judah... Cotto has certainly improved since that fight, but many many times during that fight, you could feel that Judah could have turned the tide if he had the heart and head for it... And I think even between 140 and 147, Pac is more dangerous than Judah...
I could be proved entirely wrong by Cotto being an unshakable moster on the night, but I feel Pac is just going to make to many punches count, and is going to think his way to the victory as well through Roach's coaching... Pac's dangerous left and keeping away from too much of Cotto's attack will have him winning...
Anyway, i'll make that my official prediction....
It's a fight that you hate to see someone losing,,,, but I think if Cotto loses it'll be heartbreaking for him....
I'm just going to enjoy this fight no matter who wins... Good on the two guys for making it.. Not an easy fight for either of them..
Many people predicted Hatton would be to much for Pacquiao.. Not just brits or Hatton fans.. But Hatton looked like total garbage in that fight.. No head movement, no strategy, no patience, no trainer (basically)...Quote:
Originally Posted by bugzlife
Rest assured Cotto is going to bring a hell of a lot more into those ropes than Hatton did..
LOL Lefty's gone buddy....Quote:
Originally Posted by JimboogieQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
SOLD! 
Your on, Lefty ;)
But i'll take your bet...!