What Fight Would Have Changed History The Most, If It Went The Other Way?

Tyson-Holyfield I. I wonder if Tyson had won that fight how would his legacy turn out? Would he be viewed as being a more dominant HW champion that deserves a ranking up there with the all time greats or would the same what if questions would still be asked of his career?

Duran vs Dejesus II what if Duran lost the second ?
Would he be talked about as the greatest lightweight?

Hearns vs Leonard I if Hearns knocked Ray out. Hearns would have been the greatest welterweight of all time eh I still think that though.

Michael Moorer and George Foreman. If Michael beats George he probably would get a shot at Tyson and I think Teddy knew Tyson more than he knew himself I think Moorer beats Tyson after that.

If the Ravens didn't beat the Giants in superbowl XXXV. Sorry wrong sport.

Dude I got tons of these I am outta here.

If Hearns had of sparked Hagler, then Hearns would of got the biggest 'W' of his career and Hagler would have had only Duran as his best win.

Kinda reshapes the fab-4 argument...

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

If Hearns had of sparked Hagler, then Hearns would of got the biggest 'W' of his career and Hagler would have had only Duran as his best win.

Kinda reshapes the fab-4 argument...

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A big 'If' though mate ;D

I still think Hearns was arguably more talented than any of them (maybe not Duran :-\) he just had a suspect beard and spiders legs.

If fights were 12 rounds back then, he would've beaten Leonard, he was robbed in the rematch draw and he KOed Duran

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Originally Posted by BIG H

If fights were 12 rounds back then, he would've beaten Leonard, he was robbed in the rematch draw and he KOed Duran

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I agree, it's a shame he's viewd as that guy who lost all his big fights.

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

If Hearns had of sparked Hagler, then Hearns would of got the biggest 'W' of his career and Hagler would have had only Duran as his best win.

Kinda reshapes the fab-4 argument...

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A big 'If' though mate ;D

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Hehe, okay, IF Hearns hadn't had a homoerotic rub-down in the spider leg region, then proceded to brake his hand off Hagler's Jaw..... Maybe then it wouldn't be such a big IF ;D

Theres so many what ifs in the sport of boxing.

Benn vs McClellan

Hopkins vs Trinidad

Frazier vs Ali 1

Chavez vs Randall 1

Hopkins vs Jones

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Originally Posted by jon09

Theres so many what ifs in the sport of boxing.

Benn vs McClellan

Hopkins vs Trinidad

Frazier vs Ali 1

Chavez vs Randall 1

Hopkins vs Jones

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Andrew 'kid Thunder' Hartley v Charlie Zelenoff ;)

Tua vs Lewis

Tua came in ultra fat like every heavyweight I put my money on and lost on points. It's been a hard business for the short powerpunchers in boxing past few years.. When are we going to get another Tyson, Frazier, Patterson, or Tua?

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I was watching the Mayweather-Marquez fight and it got me thinking. Had Marquez won, (he wasnt going to but this is purely hypothetical), he would have become an icon, and Mayweather would go from being, considered by many, to be one of the best fighters of the last 25 years, to being remembered for that loss. There are other variables of course like comebacks, how he lost, etc, but back to the topic; what fight in history would have changed the landscape of boxing the most if the other guy won? I'd have to say Ali-Frazier. That was probably one of the most significant fight during a difficult era. Had Ali won, not only would Frazier have been denied his greatest win, but 2 and 3 would likely have never happened. Also without that win, Frazier would have probably cut have cut his career even shorter and Cus DiAmato may have retired sooner and may have never discovered Mike Tyson. Any thoughts?

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Cus D'amato and Joe Frazier? Someone correct me, but wasn't it Eddie Futch that train Frazier his whole career?

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Futch took over the main training duties after Yank Durham died

Dempsey lost to Willard.
Ken Norton v Holmes

No 7 year reign from either heavyweight great.

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Originally Posted by CFH

Good question...


Louis - Schmelling II?

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I couldn't imagine any other candidate, taken in context.. Amazed that noone else replied with this. I kind of took the thread to mean fights that COULD have gone the other way though, like just the decision.... Can't really think of one that would have changed a whole lot. Whittaker Chavez is probably the most notorious bad decision in recent decades for such a high profile fight... But would anything have gone differently if Sweet Pea got the nod? Dunno.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Tyson-Douglas changed the entire history of the sport and till to this day has a lasting effect.

Surely the most dramatic night in the sports history. Sure thriller in manilla, rumble in jungle are the 2 biggest fights in the sport but for sheer history tyson-douglas has to rank up their as number 1

Tyson just turned up assuming all he had to do was step in the ring and blow out just another fighter which he did for the best part of 4 rounds. All of a sudden this complete nobody was actually hurting the unbeatable force and nobody but nobody would of gone on to predict what actually happened!!

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Great shout.

You cannot look beyond Tyson -v- Douglas.;)

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Tua vs Lewis

Tua came in ultra fat like every heavyweight I put my money on and lost on points. It's been a hard business for the short powerpunchers in boxing past few years.. When are we going to get another Tyson, Frazier, Patterson, or Tua?

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Tua's problem was that he was so one dimensional, it was embarrassing to watch.

I was actually feeling sorry for him after 6 rounds.:o

Ali - Cooper or Ali liston.considering Ali's part in civil rights movement and the veitnam war.

It is very difficult to answer to that question; That would change history in general or history of boxing? I've heard a lot of good calling there; Tyson-Duglas, Ali-Liston, Ali-Frasier III, Personally, I think that I would go with Foreman-Ali with rumble in the Jungle;

BEcause it is one of the most important fights that did catapult Ali's career and because this fight was the one that did throw forward the career of Don King in the skies.. and we all know how that old fat bastard just by himself changed the history of boxing and I can't imagine how it would be now if it would have taken all another direction.