What Fight Would Have Changed History The Most, If It Went The Other Way?

[generalbulldog]

I was watching the Mayweather-Marquez fight and it got me thinking. Had Marquez won, (he wasnt going to but this is purely hypothetical), he would have become an icon, and Mayweather would go from being, considered by many, to be one of the best fighters of the last 25 years, to being remembered for that loss. There are other variables of course like comebacks, how he lost, etc, but back to the topic; what fight in history would have changed the landscape of boxing the most if the other guy won? I'd have to say Ali-Frazier. That was probably one of the most significant fight during a difficult era. Had Ali won, not only would Frazier have been denied his greatest win, but 2 and 3 would likely have never happened. Also without that win, Frazier would have probably cut have cut his career even shorter and Cus DiAmato may have retired sooner and may have never discovered Mike Tyson. Any thoughts?

Cus D'amato and Joe Frazier? Someone correct me, but wasn't it Eddie Futch that train Frazier his whole career?

[BoomBoom]

I was watching the Mayweather-Marquez fight and it got me thinking. Had Marquez won, (he wasnt going to but this is purely hypothetical), he would have become an icon, and Mayweather would go from being, considered by many, to be one of the best fighters of the last 25 years, to being remembered for that loss. There are other variables of course like comebacks, how he lost, etc, but back to the topic; what fight in history would have changed the landscape of boxing the most if the other guy won? I'd have to say Ali-Frazier. That was probably one of the most significant fight during a difficult era. Had Ali won, not only would Frazier have been denied his greatest win, but 2 and 3 would likely have never happened. Also without that win, Frazier would have probably cut have cut his career even shorter and Cus DiAmato may have retired sooner and may have never discovered Mike Tyson. Any thoughts?

Cus D'amato and Joe Frazier? Someone correct me, but wasn't it Eddie Futch that train Frazier his whole career?

No, You are correct I was thinking about Floyd Patterson. Futch was a great trainer, maybe the greatest.

[BoomBoom]

I think Chavez-Taylor would have a ematch and Chavez would win. Then I think there would be a third fight which Chavez would win too, ultimately coming out on top either way. We will never know how great Taylor could have been but I think we got tyhe best of him. Part of his style was to get in exchanges. That was how he fought. He was wreckless. If he was brought up in a different atmosphere with a diferent trainer that could keep him on his game and stick to his skills and ability, he could have been one of the greatest of all time imo.

[Spicoli]

The thing about Chavez vs Taylor,great pick....but is Taylor still 'ruined'.Physically taxing fight but that had to be one of the most mentally debilitating fights in recent memory.Two frigging seconds!Taylor could show to be a boxing fool prior to that,but after it was as if someone had flipped a switch.

[killersheep]

James Toney vs. RJJ

#1 p4p who?

[SweetPea]

I'll say Ali-Frazier III.

And Mayweather-Hatton. We would've been spared the 2,332,506 Joe Cortez excuse threads.

[ross]

Id have been interested to see if Eubank had got a mega fight with Jones had he not lost to Collins.

Same again with Calzaghe

[Jody Lane]

I was watching the Mayweather-Marquez fight and it got me thinking. Had Marquez won, (he wasnt going to but this is purely hypothetical), he would have become an icon, and Mayweather would go from being, considered by many, to be one of the best fighters of the last 25 years, to being remembered for that loss. There are other variables of course like comebacks, how he lost, etc, but back to the topic; what fight in history would have changed the landscape of boxing the most if the other guy won? I'd have to say Ali-Frazier. That was probably one of the most significant fight during a difficult era. Had Ali won, not only would Frazier have been denied his greatest win, but 2 and 3 would likely have never happened. Also without that win, Frazier would have probably cut have cut his career even shorter and Cus DiAmato may have retired sooner and may have never discovered Mike Tyson. Any thoughts?

Cus D'amato and Joe Frazier? Someone correct me, but wasn't it Eddie Futch that train Frazier his whole career?

Futch took over the main training duties after Yank Durham died