"Slick" Fighters?

Could u have clled Naz slick, or was he just too weird?

Naz wasn't slick. he had a terrible defense.

Chris Byrd and Muhammad Ali for the heavyweights

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Originally Posted by eagle

Could u have clled Naz slick, or was he just too weird?

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I think in the early part of his career ya could put him that catergory, but as his career progressed and he got older then he did start to get caught alot more, as he basically used upper body movement to dodge opponents punches.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

OK so we've had Martinez and Pepp named.

How about some other non-black fighters?

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Nicolino Locche
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LEKHMUCh8k

I wouldn't call Hopkins slick....maybe out of the group you gave us but I'd describe him more as "cagey". His defense isn't GREAT and neither is his offense but he knows what he is doing and can set traps and make another fighter have trouble on offense and defense.

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Originally Posted by amat

It's a good question but I would not agree at all that only black fighters can be classified as 'slick', that's ridiculous. Also, there are different types of slick fighters. Some fighters can be slick because they blend good defense and good counterpunching to be slick, others are slick moving forward, others are slick punchers, it can be applied to many things.

Slick, crafty, saavy, smart; all of those words are interchangeable to a certain extent. I believe what you are looking for here is the exact meaning of the word, right?

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No, not the exact meaning, I knew full well people would have different definitions of slick.

Hopkins said something after the Pavlik fight about "black slick fighters" (he might have been misquoted, I can't find the exact quote). Yet as this thread shows some people wouldn't even class Hopkins himself as slick. And of course non-black fighters have been mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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What exactly does slick mean?

Hopkins?
Taylor? (Jermain)
Mosley?
Miranda?

Which can be described as slick?

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No doubt. Slickest of them all

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I can't believe that got to the 2nd page without a query.

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Frankly I was embarrass for the forum that it did

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No doubt. Slickest of them all

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I can't believe that got to the 2nd page without a query.

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Frankly I was embarrass for the forum that it did

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It did raise an eyebrow , but then i realised the post was from FENSTER ;D so i didn't comment.

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

I guess they'd be:

* Elusive
* Not erratic/ Composed
* Technically sound
* A bit of a dick

;D

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So in answer to your question Fen, yeah Hopkins is slick.

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Hopkins is slick by opposition. By that I mean he makes the other guy look clunky. I don't know if I would put him next to a Mayweather and describe them with the same word.

Sergio Martinez is slick.

I'm certain the more obvious ones have been mentioned but here's mine...

Slick for me:
Benitez
Loi
Canto
Roman
Pernell
LaBarba
Locche
Lopez
Too Sharp
Napoles
James
Byrd
Pep

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

As someone brought it up, I can't remember when was the last time I saw a slick non-black boxer. It's pretty much like an white NFL running back, I don't think I've ever seen one in modern times.;D

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before yiz all laugh, i understand this guy isnt on the level of the guys mentioned here but i would say damaen kelly was pretty slick for a lower weights white guy

To me slick fighters are the ones who make you miss by an inch with complete ease. No matter how much effort you put into beating them up there always there, then not. Toney, Whittaker. Others like Ali, Mayweather and Hopkins can do this but they also rely on frustating you with distance.

Going back a bit in time, but here are a few more that I believe were slick...

1) Willie Pastrano
2) Joey Giambra
3) Kenny Lane
4) Ralph Dupas
5) Joey Giardello
6) Jeff Chandler

All but Chandler were white- Dupas I think was mixed.

The problem with slick fighters is that as they age they lose a lot of their skills that made them slick and they need to adjust. Most are not power punchers either. Floyd has adjusted well, and so did Giardello who put on a masterful exhibition of that term in 1963 when he beat Dick Tiger, at the age of 33, for the middleweight championship.