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You know Hornfinger, it used to be that heavyweight title holders would just wait until their mandatory came up to defend their title...The Klitschko's are very active champions...of course Sam Peter is the mandatory now, but Wlad is having a difficult time finding an opponent that will actually fight him. Vitali just doesn't have much time to fuck about with Valuev and Don King haggling over contracts....Briggs took the money and I'm fairly certain Shannon could still beat Valuev so IMO he might not be a better fight but he's a more risky fight.
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Your allowed your opinion. i don't have to agree with it though.....
maybe they will fight all comers, but the standard of what they're both fighting at the moment I would discribe as piss poor at best.
By all accounts they tried to set up fights with at least three fighters other than Peter and Briggs, all of whom avoided them. Haye - because he is a no-credibility shit-talker who appears to only be in the game to make as much money as easily as possible; Povetkin - because his own trainer didn't think he had a chance; and Valuev - because he demanded too much money (or so I have read).
Who else should they have fought? Even Briggs and Peter are better than Audley Harrison.
well if they want a fight with haye they need to stop writing shit loads of silly clauses into the contract.
A 50/50 split with no futures is a "silly clause"?
Re: Klitschko vs Briggs is on
All I will say on this whole bout and what surrpounds it is I have heard from a very very very good source that Briggs has managed to up his workrate in sparring sessions to 5 punches a round so Vitaly has 60 punches to worry about if this goes the distance :o...
I mean seriously Shannon Fucking Briggs!!!!! Rob Calloway is the biggest name he has fought since the Sultan loss....Since losing to Sultan in 2007 he is 3-0 with 1 NC the NC was due to the illegal substance drug failure...This deserves a title shot? Vitali and his team even considered this a worthy opp why?
It make me sick to tell the truth and I lost a big chunk of respect for Vitali
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Hey its hard to make a good fight when no one wants to fight you
Sexton, Boytsov, Chagaev, Valuev, Solis, Pianeta, Platov, Ustinov...are all more deserving though really none are deserving of a title shot at the moent with the exception of Valuev who is only 1 fight removed from being a belt holder...But Briggs?....Take the top 25 and no less then 15 nof them would say yes in a second so p-lease don't start with the nonsense of noone will fight him...shit even in loss a title shot is a title shot in the eyes of some of mthese fellows especially the ones starting to get past their mid 20's
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This fight makes my vag sandy. No lie.
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Sexton, Boytsov, Chagaev, Valuev, Solis, Pianeta, Platov, Ustinov...are all more deserving though really none are deserving of a title shot at the moent with the exception of Valuev who is only 1 fight removed from being a belt holder...But Briggs?....Take the top 25 and no less then 15 nof them would say yes in a second so p-lease don't start with the nonsense of noone will fight him...shit even in loss a title shot is a title shot in the eyes of some of mthese fellows especially the ones starting to get past their mid 20's
Sexton....really?
Boytsov, he's ok an up and comer, got some skill to him, a little small and a little green just yet but I'd rather he stick in the WBA line instead of allowing himself to be ruined by Vitali, plus he had been trained by Sdunek in the very recent past. I like the way this kid fights but it's not going to work vs Vitali.
Chagaev, I think Ruslan is man enough to take the bout, but we've already seen him get beaten down by a Klitschko, must we see that again. PLUS I think he wants his old title back...which he'll be LUCKY to get another shot at given what Don King, Chicken Little, and manager have said about him. It would be a decent fight but we all know the outcome.
Odlanier Solis I believe is supposed to be Vitali's next mandatory...I would have rather this fight happened but who knows, maybe Vitali wants it later, maybe Vitali doesn't want it at all, maybe Solis doesn't want it....I am not sure, but I haven't heard either Klitschko say 1 word about Solis. Solis needs to watch his weight as well...I don't want him to eat himself out of the division.
Fransisco Pianetta is too green right now...just because he walked through Mike Marrone doesn't make him a top challenger
Oleh Platov is nowhere near ready for this kind of fight
Alexander Ustinov is actually contracted with K2 Promotions and has been on a number of Klitschko cards....I don't know if that's a conflict of intrests but whatever. Ustinov isn't ready to fight anyone of note or high calibre.
.....we wouldn't be talking about this if that Yehti Valuev had the stones to fight Vitali
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You know Hornfinger, it used to be that heavyweight title holders would just wait until their mandatory came up to defend their title...The Klitschko's are very active champions...of course Sam Peter is the mandatory now, but Wlad is having a difficult time finding an opponent that will actually fight him. Vitali just doesn't have much time to fuck about with Valuev and Don King haggling over contracts....Briggs took the money and I'm fairly certain Shannon could still beat Valuev so IMO he might not be a better fight but he's a more risky fight.
You think Shannon Briggs would beat Valuev?? Really? I don't. I know Valuev is shite but Briggs is even worse. I mean his greatest achievement is going the distance with a 47 year old fat George Foreman and getting a total gift decision and that was what 1996ish? He's even worse now.
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You think Shannon Briggs would beat Valuev?? Really? I don't. I know Valuev is shite but Briggs is even worse. I mean his greatest achievement is going the distance with a 47 year old fat George Foreman and getting a total gift decision and that was what 1996ish? He's even worse now.
....and Valuev got a gift decision vs Evander Holyfield who was about 47 when that fight happened, your point?
Shannon can still punch and Valuev has NEVER fought anyone that was a PROVEN heavyweight power puncher....never EVER in his whole career
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Sexton, Boytsov, Chagaev, Valuev, Solis, Pianeta, Platov, Ustinov...are all more deserving though really none are deserving of a title shot at the moent with the exception of Valuev who is only 1 fight removed from being a belt holder...But Briggs?....Take the top 25 and no less then 15 nof them would say yes in a second so p-lease don't start with the nonsense of noone will fight him...shit even in loss a title shot is a title shot in the eyes of some of mthese fellows especially the ones starting to get past their mid 20's
Sexton....really?
Boytsov, he's ok an up and comer, got some skill to him, a little small and a little green just yet but I'd rather he stick in the WBA line instead of allowing himself to be ruined by Vitali, plus he had been trained by Sdunek in the very recent past. I like the way this kid fights but it's not going to work vs Vitali.
Chagaev, I think Ruslan is man enough to take the bout, but we've already seen him get beaten down by a Klitschko, must we see that again. PLUS I think he wants his old title back...which he'll be LUCKY to get another shot at given what Don King, Chicken Little, and manager have said about him. It would be a decent fight but we all know the outcome.
Odlanier Solis I believe is supposed to be Vitali's next mandatory...I would have rather this fight happened but who knows, maybe Vitali wants it later, maybe Vitali doesn't want it at all, maybe Solis doesn't want it....I am not sure, but I haven't heard either Klitschko say 1 word about Solis. Solis needs to watch his weight as well...I don't want him to eat himself out of the division.
Fransisco Pianetta is too green right now...just because he walked through Mike Marrone doesn't make him a top challenger
Oleh Platov is nowhere near ready for this kind of fight
Alexander Ustinov is actually contracted with K2 Promotions and has been on a number of Klitschko cards....I don't know if that's a conflict of intrests but whatever. Ustinov isn't ready to fight anyone of note or high calibre.
.....we wouldn't be talking about this if that Yehti Valuev had the stones to fight Vitali
Lyle the names really don't matter I just think like I said ANYONE is more deserving of a title shot then Briggs....Hell Paul Malignaggi is more deserving of a HW title shot then Briggs:o
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Wel Malinaggi may be exaggerating just a tad, but I understand....but I just hope you understand that Vitali Klitschko an injury prone 38-39 year old WBC heavyweight champion is just trying to have an interesting "stay busy" fight, and Shannon Briggs was all that was left once Valuev refused....I mean you didn't expect Chicken Little to fight him did you?
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Oh come off it fellas Shannon Briggs doesn't deserve a shot vs anyone, he's absolute garbage. I mean except for giving Lennox Lewis trouble for 1 and half rounds what did he ever do ?
He got a gift off a 47 year old George Foreman, an absolute robbery infact. He was KO'ed vs Darrol Wilson, got a gift draw vs Francois Botha. Totally outboxed by Jameel McCline and beaten by a 9-9 Sedrick Fields.
But i suppose beating a 44 year old washed up Ray Mercer, or scoring a miracle come from behind KO against Liakhovich in one of the worst Heavyweight title fights ever, gives him an automatic pass to fight the brothers ?
Jesus you know the Heavyweight division is bad, when an asthmatic 10 punch a round fringe 90's contender Shannon Briggs is getting world title shot good lord.
No dig at the brothers its not there fault the Heavyweight division is in the state it is, but who the hell wants to see this honestly ?
I think this fight is just for laughs and to keep Vit busy. Not much else can be seen as a reason. Forget the name fighters Briggs fought and beat/or lost to. Look at BoxRec and see the quality of most of his other ko victims. he's been fighting on the US chitterling circuit so long he ought to been shitting hog intestines.
Re: Klitschko vs Briggs is on
Briggs isn't the greatest opponent and not to excited about this fight and I guess vitali should take some slack for it, but in his defense he did try making a couple other fights first. Plus vitali is pretty active so he'll be back in the ring in 4 or 5 months.
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doesnt matter who vitali fights as prob wont be on uk tv anyway:mad:
