Re: Which fighter do you credit the most?
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Given the level of hate aimed at certain fighters, especially Manny, who garners zero respect from the armchair experts we are lucky to have here at Saddo's and on many other sites I was wondering which fighter is the one who we all truly respect?
Who is the fighter who is fighting the opponents we want him to, with no funny business, and who is the role model for phonies like Pac to follow?
I know it's controversial because the guy has mental issues, but Kermit Cintron fights anyone put in front of him. Certainly, he doesn't win those fights. But, you can't say he doesn't get in the ring. He's fought Paul Williams, Alfredo Angulo, Sergio Martinez, Antonio Margarito (2x) etc. Has he ever dodged anyone?
Fighting tough opponents is only really commendable when you are the star. Cintron was the challenger in pretty much all of those fights and therefore glad of the shot and the payday.
Had he been an undefeated world champ with a big following then it would have been a brave decision to fight Angulo and Martinez etc.
But he was primarily playing the role of opponent with everything to gain and nothing to lose. It's not the same as a top p4p fighter choosing to fight those guys.
Good Point. That's why he shouldn't be on the list.
Still, credit to him, he's been up against some scary opposition.
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Given the level of hate aimed at certain fighters, especially Manny, who garners zero respect from the armchair experts we are lucky to have here at Saddo's and on many other sites I was wondering which fighter is the one who we all truly respect?
Who is the fighter who is fighting the opponents we want him to, with no funny business, and who is the role model for phonies like Pac to follow?
I know it's controversial because the guy has mental issues, but Kermit Cintron fights anyone put in front of him. Certainly, he doesn't win those fights. But, you can't say he doesn't get in the ring. He's fought Paul Williams, Alfredo Angulo, Sergio Martinez, Antonio Margarito (2x) etc. Has he ever dodged anyone?
Fighting tough opponents is only really commendable when you are the star. Cintron was the challenger in pretty much all of those fights and therefore glad of the shot and the payday.
Had he been an undefeated world champ with a big following then it would have been a brave decision to fight Angulo and Martinez etc.
But he was primarily playing the role of opponent with everything to gain and nothing to lose. It's not the same as a top p4p fighter choosing to fight those guys.
Good Point. That's why he shouldn't be on the list.
Still, credit to him, he's been up against some scary opposition.
The only fight you could argue was a brave risk though was Angulo. That was make or break for him. The others were all higher rated than him so he had nothing to lose and everything to gain.
I'd fight Paul Williams for a few hundred k's as well and hurl myself out of the ring at the first opportunity.
Re: Which fighter do you credit the most?
Outside of PAC, Cotto fought Mosely earlier than Marg and May. Fought Marg when Marg had plaster and fought Clottey with a knockdown to boot.
Re: Which fighter do you credit the most?
JMM he's a 37 y.o. lightweight, at the top of the division. He never quits in the ring, fights through nasty cuts. He fights good competition and stays pretty active. He also is pretty respectful outside of the ring, not alot of trash talk coming from him.
Re: Which fighter do you credit the most?
For this year, I gotta give it to Robert Guerrero.
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David Haye. When you beat Barret, Valuev, Ruiz, and Audley Harrison you deserve a mention.
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There are a few factors that come to mind when people down play Pacs wins and some are valid. Cotto, and Margarito both came off career ending fights and were never the same. Hatton kinda got broken by Floyde and Oscar was at the end of his rope and was weight drain to shit. But pac resume still impressive and as for the fighters i think Holyfeild is way ahead of anybody.
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LOL i didnt understand the 1st post.
The Hobbit's analogy is spot on.
for Juan Manuel Lopez to match Pac's 2nd Half accomplishment he needs to jump to Lightweight and Dominate guys like Humberto Sotto, Urbano Antillon and Michael Katsidis.
Sergio Martinez Manhandling Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson and Jean Pascal
Paul Williams beating up Lucian Bute, Carl Froch and Andre Ward
