Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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Hornfinger
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carpetrepairhouston
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Pac already made $40M since the first negotiation collapsed. Besides, Floyd need Pac too to earn that kind of quick dough. Maybe Mayweather is the one who's scared shit.
Pac already proven his p4p greatness and Floyd aint the boss of him.
Pac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Agreed 100%. There has been somthing wrong with all of his last opponants.
Something wrong with all his last opponents ----> Pacquiao's wins are not that great ----> Pacquiao is not that great
Then why the hell is Pacquiao required to be subjected to a drug test that is beyond what is already required for all boxers?
If it is part of a contract negotiation, then why not?
The other opponent will be doing the same thing. It isn't that big an ask.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?
It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.
Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.
Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?
It doesn't matter. Start the argument at the start. It is down to the athlete to prove they are clean. Clean athletes who have nothing to hide will happily take tests. That's where the argument starts. And with me it's also where it ends.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Hornfinger
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carpetrepairhouston
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Pac already made $40M since the first negotiation collapsed. Besides, Floyd need Pac too to earn that kind of quick dough. Maybe Mayweather is the one who's scared shit.
Pac already proven his p4p greatness and Floyd aint the boss of him.
Pac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Agreed 100%. There has been somthing wrong with all of his last opponants.
Something wrong with all his last opponents ----> Pacquiao's wins are not that great ----> Pacquiao is not that great
Then why the hell is Pacquiao required to be subjected to a drug test that is beyond what is already required for all boxers?
If it is part of a contract negotiation, then why not?
The other opponent will be doing the same thing. It isn't that big an ask.
Why would it be placed in the contract negotiation if Pacquiao's recent wins are not that great since it's against opponents who are either weight-drained or damaged?
I put that question out to Hornfinger because he does not think that Pacquiao's achievements are that great and yet he insist that Manny is using PEDS.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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Hornfinger
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Hornfinger
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Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?
It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.
Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.
Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?
It doesn't matter. Start the argument at the start. It is down to the athlete to prove they are clean. Clean athletes who have nothing to hide will happily take tests. That's where the argument starts. And with me it's also where it ends.
Are you trying to convince yourself that Manny Pacquiao is a cheater? Oh Wait, my bad, don't answer that. We all already know that one. Lol.
The better question is this: Had the Mayweather camp never made their groundless claims that Manny is on steroids, or "power pellets" as Floyd said in his ignorant video, would you or anyone else even remotely think that Manny ever cheated? Again, it's a safe assumption to think that you would say that you always had your suspicions. Am I right? Well then, taking the Mayweather camp's defamatory claims out of the equation, please Hornfinger, provide hard evidence that would support your suspicions of Manny's cheating ways. And don't use the "he ran from testing" crap because that is as lame an excuse as any. I'm talking about hard evidence like the Mosely roid scandals. Name any single person (like Conte) or any roid association (like Balco) that would link to Team Pacquiao.
FYI, Pacquiao agreed to Mayweather's first demand. Then Mayweather refuses. They then again ask for another one. And they denied the second negotiation never happened. What does that tell you?
Floyd is scared!
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
Okay guys. Now that the third negotiation is taking part and "looking positive". Pac must not have a dominant win against Mosely. Seriously, in order to seal the negotiation, Pac must not scare Floyd. Pacquiao should act like he's already worn down from fighting bigger guys. He must convince Mayweather that now is the perfect time to have the fight.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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Hornfinger
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:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
Hornfinger
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:::PSL:::
Didn't NSAC called USADA style of testing inadequate? Lol Didn't they have court hearing about this?
It's not the amount of blood that NSAC worried about. It's the actual vein poking.. minutes, or hours before the fight that they're concern about.
Give it up. Mayweather will find excuse after another just to avoid Pac.
Mayweather will have EXACTLY the same thing done to him though so there is no advantage. It's all fair.
Clean athletes don't run from drug tests.
You still don't get what NSAC is trying to say do you?
It doesn't matter. Start the argument at the start. It is down to the athlete to prove they are clean. Clean athletes who have nothing to hide will happily take tests. That's where the argument starts. And with me it's also where it ends.
Are you trying to convince yourself that Manny Pacquiao is a cheater? Oh Wait, my bad, don't answer that. We all already know that one. Lol.
The better question is this: Had the Mayweather camp never made their groundless claims that Manny is on steroids, or "power pellets" as Floyd said in his ignorant video, would you or anyone else even remotely think that Manny ever cheated? Again, it's a safe assumption to think that you would say that you always had your suspicions. Am I right? Well then, taking the Mayweather camp's defamatory claims out of the equation, please Hornfinger, provide hard evidence that would support your suspicions of Manny's cheating ways. And don't use the "he ran from testing" crap because that is as lame an excuse as any. I'm talking about hard evidence like the Mosely roid scandals. Name any single person (like Conte) or any roid association (like Balco) that would link to Team Pacquiao.
FYI, Pacquiao agreed to Mayweather's first demand. Then Mayweather refuses. They then again ask for another one. And they denied the second negotiation never happened. What does that tell you?
Floyd is scared!
I don't need to convince my self. It is down to pacquiao to prove he is clean. No one can prove this guy is clean. When ever he get's an oppotunity to prove he's clean he runs from it.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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I say bullocks. First time shame on you, second time shame on ---:eek:
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
-Afraid of needles (where did the jail tats come from?)
-Superstitious about blood (in a blood sport?)
-Will not play mental games
-Only if we are given 14 or 7 days of no blood tests (sorry but they are called “RANDOM” for a reason)
And the list of excuses for not taking the random blood tests goes on. Floyd is willing to take them and accept all of Manny’s and Roach’s demands. He even agreed to a 50/50 which is quite something when it comes to Floyd. There are some interesting interviews with Floyd/Pac about this. I'll post when I get home later today.
Either can win this fight if they step in to the ring. I see Pac winning by KO/TKO or Floyd cruising to a clear decision.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
Without being too simplistic, the solution is for Mayweather to hook up with Don King. Plain and simple. Don and Arum will get it done and in a big way.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
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Okay guys. Now that the third negotiation is taking part and "looking positive". Pac must not have a dominant win against Mosely. Seriously, in order to seal the negotiation, Pac must not scare Floyd. Pacquiao should act like he's already worn down from fighting bigger guys. He must convince Mayweather that now is the perfect time to have the fight.
Dude! You're dreaming.... "Jeff Mayweather"? Maybe the guy is having an attention spasm or trying to impress a girl or something. There is no way talks are going on with Pacquiao and Mayweather because there is already a sealed contract with Mosley. Talks don't happen until the existing fights are done. Not unless they plan to buy out the contract. South Africa? Its only stadium land and can't compete with the Casino Venues. The only chance a PBF/PAC fight venue could happen outside the Casino venue is if there is a multi-billionaire willing to put up a 60-80 million bid dollar purse.
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
Or better yet, have Mayweather hook back up with Arum. Bob will pay Mosley to feint injury and back-out from his fight with Manny. The megafight we are all waiting for will then be signed immediately.
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Without being too simplistic, the solution is for Mayweather to hook up with Don King. Plain and simple. Don and Arum will get it done and in a big way.
Agreed. Don said himself if he gets Mayweather on board him and Arum could get the fight done in 5 minutes. I know there was talk of Mayweather hooking up with King before all of his legal troubles began, not long after the Mosley fight I believe. There's always going to be difficulties in getting this fight done, but I don't doubt that King and Arum would make it happen
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Okay guys. Now that the third negotiation is taking part and "looking positive". Pac must not have a dominant win against Mosely. Seriously, in order to seal the negotiation, Pac must not scare Floyd. Pacquiao should act like he's already worn down from fighting bigger guys. He must convince Mayweather that now is the perfect time to have the fight.
Dude! You're dreaming.... "Jeff Mayweather"? Maybe the guy is having an attention spasm or trying to impress a girl or something. There is no way talks are going on with Pacquiao and Mayweather because there is already a sealed contract with Mosley. Talks don't happen until the existing fights are done. Not unless they plan to buy out the contract. South Africa? Its only stadium land and can't compete with the Casino Venues. The only chance a PBF/PAC fight venue could happen outside the Casino venue is if there is a multi-billionaire willing to put up a 60-80 million bid dollar purse.
Yes, I read Jeff saying that they're in talks about taking Floyd to South Africa for Mandela's birthday celebrations, but it didn't mention Pacquiao as an opponent then. I believe he did say they still hoped to fight Manny, or that they were expecting to open talks, something along those lines. Not sure whether someone has just linked the two, but Arum completely dismissed the rumours of talks beginning again
Arum: Report on Floyd Mayweather Talks is Bulls**t - Boxing News
Re: Pacquiao vs. Mayweather:Proposed Solution
Fukk! This is so fukking frustrating.
