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Haye never made an excuse for the Thompson loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not all of Haye's "countrymen" are supporting him, or believe he will win.
How many Haye fans on here believe he's the favourite? Two? Maybe three? Almost everyone on saddo's supporting Haye accepts he's the underdog.
Don't confuse this site with all the other ones you visit ;)
If Haye loses?... He wasn't a good enough heavyweight to beat wlad. Simple.
Haye is not the favourite that is obvious. I DO think he will win, but Wlad is the established HW with size, height and reach advantages in this fight as well as experience. I just think Haye has all the right tools to win this fight, Wlad is very weak in the chin department and Haye is as explosive as they come, anyone who doesn't think Haye has the power to KO Wlad is just insane if you ask me. Also Haye has a clear advantage in hand and foot speed and is a lot looser in what he does than any of Wlads previous opponents. But for me the speed is the biggest factor and Haye has that advantage clearly.
Just seen Vitali saying Haye is too small for HW at 212lbs. Well I have news for him, Evander Holyfield at 212lbs in his prime would have beaten both Klits on the same night and he was a former CW moving up like Haye. I'm not saying Haye is Evander but to say a man who is that lean and weighs 212lbs is not a HW is stupid. Ali was lighter than that when he battered Liston and that version of Ali would have crucified both Klits at the same time never mind on the same night. Again I'm not saying Haye is any Muhammad Ali, what I am saying is I am agreeing with Adam that if Haye doesn't win it is because he is not good enough.
You're not allowed to support Haye without being delusional or Brit biased. However, anyone that says Haye has already lost has nothing against him and is clearly a boxing expert :rolleyes:
Besides who? Miles and maybe 1 other guy like Boxingbantz? Come on his countrymen on this site is supporting him like crazy (nothing wrong with that). And I say at least half thinks he blows out Wlad in an easy fight because it has been cited a thousand times how weak Wlad's chin is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHaye never made an excuse for the Thompson loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not all of Haye's "countrymen" are supporting him, or believe he will win.
How many Haye fans on here believe he's the favourite? Two? Maybe three? Almost everyone on saddo's supporting Haye accepts he's the underdog.
Don't confuse this site with all the other ones you visit ;)
And no I'm not confusing this site with another one. I just remember when Hatton lost, every excuse came out. So going by history, I say the same will happen if Haye loses. His fans will come out with every excuse if it does happen. Fact.;)
OK this is real simple to prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogBesides who? Miles and maybe 1 other guy like Boxingbantz? Come on his countrymen on this site is supporting him like crazy (nothing wrong with that). And I say at least half thinks he blows out Wlad in an easy fight because it has been cited a thousand times how weak Wlad's chin is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHaye never made an excuse for the Thompson loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not all of Haye's "countrymen" are supporting him, or believe he will win.
How many Haye fans on here believe he's the favourite? Two? Maybe three? Almost everyone on saddo's supporting Haye accepts he's the underdog.
Don't confuse this site with all the other ones you visit ;)
And no I'm not confusing this site with another one. I just remember when Hatton lost, every excuse came out. So going by history, I say the same will happen if Haye loses. His fans will come out with every excuse if it does happen. Fact.;)
You list all the Saddo members that think it's possible Haye can win? Then if he loses we will see who makes excuses.
list them here....
1. Fenster
2.
3.
Well there will be no excuses from me unless something ridiculous happens. I never made excuses for Hatton either. I knew Floyd would school him. I must say I backed him against Pac because I still wasn't convinced he was big enough and I thought his success against Oscar was more due to Oscar cutting too much. I still think that to be honest but now I cannot deny that Pac belongs at 140 - 147. If he had fought Oscar at 154 then it might have been different. Anyway thats besides the point, I don't make excuses if he loses it's because he's not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogBesides who? Miles and maybe 1 other guy like Boxingbantz? Come on his countrymen on this site is supporting him like crazy (nothing wrong with that). And I say at least half thinks he blows out Wlad in an easy fight because it has been cited a thousand times how weak Wlad's chin is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHaye never made an excuse for the Thompson loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not all of Haye's "countrymen" are supporting him, or believe he will win.
How many Haye fans on here believe he's the favourite? Two? Maybe three? Almost everyone on saddo's supporting Haye accepts he's the underdog.
Don't confuse this site with all the other ones you visit ;)
And no I'm not confusing this site with another one. I just remember when Hatton lost, every excuse came out. So going by history, I say the same will happen if Haye loses. His fans will come out with every excuse if it does happen. Fact.;)
Damn Fenster why must you make it so difficult: erics44, rjjtszyu, AdamGB, Hornfinger (though he may deny it), smashup
.....That should get up jumped off.
So that's 6 Brits including me.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Is that it?
I'm supporting Haye but don't think he'll win. I've even put £20 on a Wlad win with a bloke down the pub. It's a win win situation for me but I'd be far happier parting with my money...
There's plenty more, I just wanted to help get the list started....no need to be a jerk.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterSo that's 6 Brits including me.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Is that it?
I'm not being a jerk Lyle, I want a proper list so that we can conclusively prove that Brit fans are making excuses when Haye loses.
Conrad thinks Wlad will win but is a Brit supporting Haye.
I'm happy for him to join the list of Brit excuse makers.
7 Brits supporting Haye.
same feeling here, explosiveness is the key for Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuYou seem nervous all of a sudden to me Lyle. You should know that a puncher weighing 212lbs can KO anybody let alone a man who has had SERIOUS issues with his chin. Yet you think Haye is looking to go the distance?? He is looking for speed and I have a feeling he is going to go straight for the kill. When Wlad grabs he is going to bang him round the back of the head a few times and probably lose a point but it will make Wlad think twice and the second that happens with someone as fast as Haye you are fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWould this be the same man that said his natural heavyweight range would be about 225-230???Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
As for the weigh in itself I was proud to be British when I heard the crowds response to the fighters. That is what it will be like in the stadium too and that is a huge boost for Haye. It has made an away fight seem like a home fight.
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Originally Posted by generalbulldogBesides who? Miles and maybe 1 other guy like Boxingbantz? Come on his countrymen on this site is supporting him like crazy (nothing wrong with that). And I say at least half thinks he blows out Wlad in an easy fight because it has been cited a thousand times how weak Wlad's chin is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHaye never made an excuse for the Thompson loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Not all of Haye's "countrymen" are supporting him, or believe he will win.
How many Haye fans on here believe he's the favourite? Two? Maybe three? Almost everyone on saddo's supporting Haye accepts he's the underdog.
Don't confuse this site with all the other ones you visit ;)
And no I'm not confusing this site with another one. I just remember when Hatton lost, every excuse came out. So going by history, I say the same will happen if Haye loses. His fans will come out with every excuse if it does happen. Fact.;)
Fenster is dead right. I'm a Brit and I can't fucking wait to see his stupid flared nostrilled face pummelled into the canvas.
Wlad is a cultured gentleman, with a love for chess and young teen girls. He's a man I can admire.