Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
cursed
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Why should he be given time to recover? The ref said box on and Floyd KO'd the cheating fucking arse hole. Ortiz got on my tits after the fight by acting the nice guy. He had just blatantly tried cheating because he was getting easily beaten up and he angered Floyd so he got KTFO.[/QUOTE]
Ummmmmm What?
Anyways no is an answer. Even if Ortiz had continuously punched him in the nuts no is a good answer. Mayweather has been doing shit like this and destroying the big stage of boxing for years. And he wasnt winning all the rounds either just the opposite. He flinched several times. Flinched you ever seen Floyd flinch before. You cant say what was going to happen in the latter rounds but Floyd looked uncomfortable and like he was in trouble.
Now if Ortiz would have knocked Floyd out intentionally with that butt I'd be calling him a piece of shit for it. I wouldnt be on here defending him just because I like him. That would make me an idiot.
And I'd like to see a gif of Cortez saying carry on in anyway because I saw no such thing. What Floyd did is classless either way but the first makes it illegal and he should be banned. Because we know he wont fight PAC either way![/QUOTE]
Cortez told them to box on. Did you even see the fight? Mayweather had won every round. In fact I'll bet you the punch stats back me up on that too. As I said already Mayweather was landing and Ortiz was not.
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place :-X
If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.
He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place :-X
If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.
He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.
Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place :-X
If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.
He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.
Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?
A cynic would say that why he looks to the ref in the first place, you do dirt you know you piss a guy off but yeh, ref was busy talking to timekeepers. I dont entirely fault Floyd in rules so much as you dont have to go street punk sucker punch artist when you stand on THE top spot. Represent! As smart as Floyd is, he let himself lose it, and lose definitive victory.
And no if I get head butted I'm wrapin a fookin trashcan around someones face. Just not in the professional ring.
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
piye
Ref clearly waves them to fight on.
That was not really a wave in. He didn't even indicate box or fight. Also he waved them in and then pushed them back apart, started looking at the time keeper as if t say he didn't actually start the fight.
Cortez messed this one up! This is a DQ or NC for sure when they protest.
;D
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
piye
Ref clearly waves them to fight on.
Also he waved them in and then pushed them back apart
:vd:
Oh dear. Is that what you really saw?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_T0X6iBKs
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
Jimanuel Boogustus
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
piye
Ref clearly waves them to fight on.
Also he waved them in and then pushed them back apart
:vd:
Oh dear. Is that what you really saw?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_T0X6iBKs
Haha gotta love youtube baby.
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place :-X
If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.
He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.
Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?
A cynic would say that why he looks to the ref in the first place, you do dirt you know you piss a guy off but yeh, ref was busy talking to timekeepers. I dont entirely fault Floyd in
rules so much as you dont have to go street punk sucker punch artist when you stand on THE top spot. Represent! As smart as Floyd is, he let himself lose it, and lose definitive victory.
And no if
I get head butted I'm wrapin a fookin trashcan around someones face. Just not in the professional ring.
I posted an analogy in another thread, but is it not a credit to Floyd that he noticed if the ref said continue? How long should he wait for Ortiz to notice?
Re: Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
LukeH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place :-X
If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.
He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.
Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?
A cynic would say that why he looks to the ref in the first place, you do dirt you know you piss a guy off but yeh, ref was busy talking to timekeepers. I dont entirely fault Floyd in
rules so much as you dont have to go street punk sucker punch artist when you stand on THE top spot. Represent! As smart as Floyd is, he let himself lose it, and lose definitive victory.
And no if
I get head butted I'm wrapin a fookin trashcan around someones face. Just not in the professional ring.
I posted an analogy in another thread, but is it not a credit to Floyd that he noticed if the ref said continue? How long should he wait for Ortiz to notice?
I have no idea what Floyd heard or if a aloof Cortez says 'bell ring' or get me more apple sauce? It was calculated and Floyd went street..if you gotta take shots at a guy with his hands fully extended then you deal with aftermath. He's better than that shat and should have acted as such.
