Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?

[Spicoli]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

[LukeH]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.

[jabvargas24]

Better view of the KO

[piye]

Mayweather Ortiz Title fight - YouTube

Ref clearly waves them to fight on.

[ykdadamaja]

Ref clearly waves them to fight on.

That was not really a wave in. He didn't even indicate box or fight. Also he waved them in and then pushed them back apart, started looking at the time keeper as if t say he didn't actually start the fight.

Cortez messed this one up! This is a DQ or NC for sure when they protest.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Ref clearly waves them to fight on.

Also he waved them in and then pushed them back apart

Oh dear. Is that what you really saw?

[rjj tszyu]

Ref clearly waves them to fight on.

Also he waved them in and then pushed them back apart

Oh dear. Is that what you really saw?

Haha gotta love youtube baby.

[Spicoli]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.

He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.

[LukeH]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.

He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.

Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?

[Spicoli]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.

He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.

Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?

A cynic would say that why he looks to the ref in the first place, you do dirt you know you piss a guy off but yeh, ref was busy talking to timekeepers. I dont entirely fault Floyd in rules so much as you dont have to go street punk sucker punch artist when you stand on THE top spot. Represent! As smart as Floyd is, he let himself lose it, and lose definitive victory.

And no if I get head butted I'm wrapin a fookin trashcan around someones face. Just not in the professional ring.

[LukeH]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.

He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.

Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?

A cynic would say that why he looks to the ref in the first place, you do dirt you know you piss a guy off but yeh, ref was busy talking to timekeepers. I dont entirely fault Floyd in rules so much as you dont have to go street punk sucker punch artist when you stand on THE top spot. Represent! As smart as Floyd is, he let himself lose it, and lose definitive victory.

And no if I get head butted I'm wrapin a fookin trashcan around someones face. Just not in the professional ring.

I posted an analogy in another thread, but is it not a credit to Floyd that he noticed if the ref said continue? How long should he wait for Ortiz to notice?

[Spicoli]

No. But It was a school yard cheap shot from the very best of what the sport has to offer but many many lesser guys have done it. Not like he proclaimed to set an example in the first place

If someone had just blatantly head butt you would you have just let it pass because he's a 'nice guy' and said sorry? If ortiz had any awareness he should have noticed Mayweather was a little pissed off.

He did notice, and there wasnt a thing he could do about it. He was on his way to beating him up just fine without some emotional outburst shown by Mayweather who is a face of boxing resulting in this circus...it was a cheap move by a very expensive fighter.

Him looking at the ref cluelessly didn't seem like he noticed he was pissed off about it.
Mayweather may not have the best temperment, but if someone had headbutt you, whatever Ortiz says it was pretty clearly on purposs, you would let it go? Even though the reaction was legal ( I wont deny it wasn't a little cheap) If he didnt take his eyes of Mayweather he would have seen the intent in his eyes that he wasn't happy, in which case he probably wouldnt have been looking elsewhere with his hands at his sides?

A cynic would say that why he looks to the ref in the first place, you do dirt you know you piss a guy off but yeh, ref was busy talking to timekeepers. I dont entirely fault Floyd in rules so much as you dont have to go street punk sucker punch artist when you stand on THE top spot. Represent! As smart as Floyd is, he let himself lose it, and lose definitive victory.

And no if I get head butted I'm wrapin a fookin trashcan around someones face. Just not in the professional ring.

I posted an analogy in another thread, but is it not a credit to Floyd that he noticed if the ref said continue? How long should he wait for Ortiz to notice?

I have no idea what Floyd heard or if a aloof Cortez says 'bell ring' or get me more apple sauce? It was calculated and Floyd went street..if you gotta take shots at a guy with his hands fully extended then you deal with aftermath. He's better than that shat and should have acted as such.