Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
It's hard to see Pacquiao losing this one, with the physical differences thrown into the mix with this iteration. On the other hand, Marquez is an unequivocally one of the finest boxers ever (at least in my opinion) - it's equally hard to see anything other than yet another amazing contest between these two.
This fight should erase the bad taste left by the last two big main events. Really can't wait to see this one.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
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Manny wins but hope JMM sees it to the judges.
I see Manny winning by a TKO this time Master, but JMM has never been stopped so it's very possible he goes the distance, he's one tough hombre.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.
I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
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I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.
I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
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I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.
I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
I favor Floyd over Manny anyway. My point was just that Ortiz wasn't much of a challenge to Floyd and Marquez will be a challenge to Manny.
Marquez is the right kind of fight to have before fighting Floyd. Manny needs to test himself more against defensive counter punchers. Bradley is a good fight, but Bradley isn't the style that prepares you for Floyd.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
This could be the fight thay proves manny is a roider :)
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
Marquez has been slumping lately and getting dropped by lesser fighters than Pacquiao and his punch resistance seems to be waning. Add that on top of the fact he's fighting at Welterweight again which is Pacquiao's natural weight nowadays I see Pacquiao winning this fight and getting more credit than he should but oh well that's always the case. If marquez wins I'll be pleasantly surprised. But they'd only take this fight if it looked like Martinez was slipping and Freddie apparently thinks Marquez has a lot less to beat Pacquiao with so we'll see if he's right.
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I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.
I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
I favor Floyd over Manny anyway. My point was just that Ortiz wasn't much of a challenge to Floyd and Marquez will be a challenge to Manny.
Marquez is the right kind of fight to have before fighting Floyd. Manny needs to test himself more against defensive counter punchers. Bradley is a good fight, but Bradley isn't the style that prepares you for Floyd.
I totally agree Bradley is no way style or talent wise similar to Floyd, JMM will be more of a challenge. I hope PAC blasts JMM outta there (not that I wish harm on Marquez for I like the man), to make PAC vs PBF more interesting. Like you I do believe PBF has the upper hand, because of his size and skill.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
Is Joe Cortez the referee?
Too bad, because sucker punches are fun! In fact most non-PPV afficionados worldwide, would gleefully welcome seconds for the return of the sucker punch... It is quite entertaining, especially the two-punch combinational, which is a good alternative if one lacks the power to efficiently deliver successfully, the entry level, single punch variety. :)
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Juan Manuel Marquez the cerebral pugilist will fight at his backpedalling/counter-punching best, but hopefully, not misguided nor enlightened from any or nearly to that from a Narvaez/Mosley/Clottey perspective.
Two scenarios... Dull, UD points win for Pac or if JMM brought mustard, Pac KO within 5!
At any rate... an assured third loss for Pacquiao in the very pop and considered mainstream, Marquezspeak! Absolute;y!
T-shirts that read, I beat Paquiao three times are now selling briskly, as we Marquezspeak!;)
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My guess is he will want to stop him and better the performance of Floyd against JMM.
It only took one fight (not 3) for Floyd to beat him clearly, just sayin':rolleyes:.
Hmm, thats funny, cos in ya next post ya stated exactly what I was saying :rolleyes:
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I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.
I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
Well going by that logic Manny Pacquiao gets dominted by Floyd Mayweather Jr then, because JMM fought both version's of Manny Pacquiao. And has won atleast 15 rounds out of the 24 rounds they have fought.
Are people honestly overrating Manny Pacquiao this much ? yes he's great and probably will win. But JMM won't win a single round and will be KO'ed in 5 brutal rounds ? really ?
I remember when this was supposed to happen in the 2nd fight, and i told Rain's it wouldn't and i was right.
The age and weight will be more of a factor now, but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted :rolleyes:
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I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.
I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
Well going by that logic Manny Pacquiao gets dominted by Floyd Mayweather Jr then, because JMM fought both version's of Manny Pacquiao. And has won atleast 15 rounds out of the 24 rounds they have fought.
Are people honestly overrating Manny Pacquiao this much ? yes he's great and probably will win. But JMM won't win a single round and will be KO'ed in 5 brutal rounds ? really ?
I remember when this was supposed to happen in the 2nd fight, and i told Rain's it wouldn't and i was right.
The age and weight will be more of a factor now, but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted :rolleyes:
"both versions":-\ The Pacquiao that fought Marquez in the rematch is not as great as the PAC who fought ODLH and company IMO.
but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
we'll see my friend;)
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For all we know PAC might carry JMM to the final bell, if he felt sorry for the diablo Margarito why not for the heroic Marquez.
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Is Joe Cortez the referee?
Too bad, because sucker punches are fun! In fact most non-PPV afficionados worldwide, would gleefully welcome seconds for the return of the sucker punch... It is quite entertaining, especially the two-punch combinational, which is a good alternative if one lacks the power to efficiently deliver successfully, the entry level, single punch variety. :)
******** ********* *********
Juan Manuel Marquez the cerebral pugilist will fight at his backpedalling/counter-punching best, but hopefully, not misguided nor enlightened from any or nearly to that from a Narvaez/Mosley/Clottey perspective.
Two scenarios... Dull, UD points win for Pac or if JMM brought mustard, Pac KO within 5!
At any rate... an assured third loss for Pacquiao in the very pop and considered mainstream, Marquezspeak! Absolute;y!
T-shirts that read, I beat Paquiao three times are now selling briskly, as we Marquezspeak!;)
I hope Marquez does not shell up, they'll blame PAC for that again.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?
Marquez by butterfly knife