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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
    I favor Floyd over Manny anyway. My point was just that Ortiz wasn't much of a challenge to Floyd and Marquez will be a challenge to Manny.

    Marquez is the right kind of fight to have before fighting Floyd. Manny needs to test himself more against defensive counter punchers. Bradley is a good fight, but Bradley isn't the style that prepares you for Floyd.

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

    This could be the fight thay proves manny is a roider
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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
    I favor Floyd over Manny anyway. My point was just that Ortiz wasn't much of a challenge to Floyd and Marquez will be a challenge to Manny.

    Marquez is the right kind of fight to have before fighting Floyd. Manny needs to test himself more against defensive counter punchers. Bradley is a good fight, but Bradley isn't the style that prepares you for Floyd.
    I totally agree Bradley is no way style or talent wise similar to Floyd, JMM will be more of a challenge. I hope PAC blasts JMM outta there (not that I wish harm on Marquez for I like the man), to make PAC vs PBF more interesting. Like you I do believe PBF has the upper hand, because of his size and skill.
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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

    Is Joe Cortez the referee?

    Too bad, because sucker punches are fun! In fact most non-PPV afficionados worldwide, would gleefully welcome seconds for the return of the sucker punch... It is quite entertaining, especially the two-punch combinational, which is a good alternative if one lacks the power to efficiently deliver successfully, the entry level, single punch variety.

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    Juan Manuel Marquez the cerebral pugilist will fight at his backpedalling/counter-punching best, but hopefully, not misguided nor enlightened from any or nearly to that from a Narvaez/Mosley/Clottey perspective.

    Two scenarios... Dull, UD points win for Pac or if JMM brought mustard, Pac KO within 5!

    At any rate... an assured third loss for Pacquiao in the very pop and considered mainstream, Marquezspeak! Absolute;y!

    T-shirts that read, I beat Paquiao three times are now selling briskly, as we Marquezspeak!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    Is Joe Cortez the referee?

    Too bad, because sucker punches are fun! In fact most non-PPV afficionados worldwide, would gleefully welcome seconds for the return of the sucker punch... It is quite entertaining, especially the two-punch combinational, which is a good alternative if one lacks the power to efficiently deliver successfully, the entry level, single punch variety.

    ******** ********* *********

    Juan Manuel Marquez the cerebral pugilist will fight at his backpedalling/counter-punching best, but hopefully, not misguided nor enlightened from any or nearly to that from a Narvaez/Mosley/Clottey perspective.

    Two scenarios... Dull, UD points win for Pac or if JMM brought mustard, Pac KO within 5!

    At any rate... an assured third loss for Pacquiao in the very pop and considered mainstream, Marquezspeak! Absolute;y!

    T-shirts that read, I beat Paquiao three times are now selling briskly, as we Marquezspeak!
    I hope Marquez does not shell up, they'll blame PAC for that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
    Well going by that logic Manny Pacquiao gets dominted by Floyd Mayweather Jr then, because JMM fought both version's of Manny Pacquiao. And has won atleast 15 rounds out of the 24 rounds they have fought.

    Are people honestly overrating Manny Pacquiao this much ? yes he's great and probably will win. But JMM won't win a single round and will be KO'ed in 5 brutal rounds ? really ?

    I remember when this was supposed to happen in the 2nd fight, and i told Rain's it wouldn't and i was right.

    The age and weight will be more of a factor now, but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
    Well going by that logic Manny Pacquiao gets dominted by Floyd Mayweather Jr then, because JMM fought both version's of Manny Pacquiao. And has won atleast 15 rounds out of the 24 rounds they have fought.

    Are people honestly overrating Manny Pacquiao this much ? yes he's great and probably will win. But JMM won't win a single round and will be KO'ed in 5 brutal rounds ? really ?

    I remember when this was supposed to happen in the 2nd fight, and i told Rain's it wouldn't and i was right.

    The age and weight will be more of a factor now, but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted
    "both versions" The Pacquiao that fought Marquez in the rematch is not as great as the PAC who fought ODLH and company IMO.
    but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted [/QUOTE]
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    For all we know PAC might carry JMM to the final bell, if he felt sorry for the diablo Margarito why not for the heroic Marquez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.
    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd.
    Well going by that logic Manny Pacquiao gets dominted by Floyd Mayweather Jr then, because JMM fought both version's of Manny Pacquiao. And has won atleast 15 rounds out of the 24 rounds they have fought.

    Are people honestly overrating Manny Pacquiao this much ? yes he's great and probably will win. But JMM won't win a single round and will be KO'ed in 5 brutal rounds ? really ?

    I remember when this was supposed to happen in the 2nd fight, and i told Rain's it wouldn't and i was right.

    The age and weight will be more of a factor now, but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted
    "both versions" The Pacquiao that fought Marquez in the rematch is not as great as the PAC who fought ODLH and company IMO.
    but JMM will put up a good fight and certainly won't get dominanted
    we'll see my friend[/QUOTE]

    Yes both versions the one dimensional Manny Pacquiao who only used his left hand, and the new and improved Manny Pacquiao who actually uses his right hand. I just think its very assuming to think this will be a blowout, considering JMM has won more rounds overall in both fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.

    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd
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    Naaah, I don't see that at all, styles make fights, it's possible that JMM wins a few rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
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    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.

    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd
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    Naaah, I don't see that at all, styles make fights, it's possible that JMM wins a few rounds.
    that's the thing Mars JMM is a great counter-puncher with B+ defense while PBF is the superhuman counter puncher with a A+ defense with size and speed advantage, if PAC struggles with JMM all the more vs PBF. I'll just roll over and die
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I stand by the point that I made before Mayweather fought Ortiz. Mayweather would have an easier time with Ortiz than Manny would with JMM. I still believe that to be true.

    I like Manny in this one. He's the favorite for a reason. I can see him stopping Marquez or a winning a clear decision, but there will be some bumps in the road on his way to victory.

    if manny loses a single round vs jmm, its pretty apparent that pac has no shot vs floyd
    .
    Naaah, I don't see that at all, styles make fights, it's possible that JMM wins a few rounds.
    that's the thing Mars JMM is a great counter-puncher with B+ defense while PBF is the superhuman counter puncher with a A+ defense with size and speed advantage, if PAC struggles with JMM all the more vs PBF. I'll just roll over and die
    I don't think Pac will struggle with Marquez at all, just saying it's possible JMM steals a round or 2, I don't see it as a big deal. Pac either wins a clearcut decision or stops Marquez, either way he dominates him. As for Mayweather, I like Pac's chances, Manny throws punches in bunches and enough will get through Floyd's defense to win him the fight.

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III, who wins?

    I think Mayweather will gauge Pacquiao's performance in this fight to determine whether he would want to fight him.

    A dominating performance by Pac, say goodbye forever to the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

    A so-so performance means ' expect their fight next'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    I think Mayweather will gauge Pacquiao's performance in this fight to determine whether he would want to fight him.

    A dominating performance by Pac, say goodbye forever to the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

    A so-so performance means ' expect their fight next'
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    The pressure on Mayweather to fight Pacquiao is going to be enormous after the Marquez fight, i'm thinking it gets announced the day after, but who knows.

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