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@ rantacrat
We both know the answer to that.
It's not about being biased,Froch is entertaining but we all have to face fact's he is a limited fighter,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Why jump to 175 if you can still make weight at 168? Bute is a better opponent than Cleverly in every single respect. If you weren't biased, who would you give Froch more credit for beating Bute or Cleverly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoOk, Carl FrochQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI said louderQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYES:lolololol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI'll stick to the truth and glad to help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoStick to Fight Night.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeLet's compare recordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoSee your a Froch fan,;D what's not to like let's see is he undefeated, is he the best in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
will he get beat in his next fight probable.
Never mind may be you could match him on Fight Night, may I suggest a opponent let's see
Froch v Caldoron he may win that one.:biglaugh:
The truth will always prevail in the end and froch has fought the best and the youngest at their primes, undefeated means nothing, Calzaghe would have losses on his record if he actually took on the best when it mattered, and cleverly just keeps fighting bums, I would lick his arse of he had the froch heart and go to America for a unification bout.
What matters is who you fight and a real champ fights the best and defends on foreign soil
Established himself as a top class opponent, hasn't established himself as a champion. He's a level below Kessler, Ward, and Bute.
When he loses to Bute, he wont exactly be remembered as a talent, he will be remembered as a good-fighter. But lets be honest, most of Britain doesn't know who he is, his bubble has been burst since the Kessler fight.
He was handled wrong with Hennesy in my opinion, to late when sky got him. He's to one dimensional to be a great fighter.
I see Froch has not stuck to his word *I will give an up and coming fighter, his due, by fighting me*.
Boxing is a business and its about the money, Froch is still good enough to earn a couple of million or whatever he earns per-fight. There's no excuses why Froch shouldn't fight Cleverly.
Froch has contradicted himself and being a hypocrite in my opinion.
Slander Calzaghe for the position he was in. Hopkins - Jones in America, or Carl who ? In Britain.
Froch is in a very similar position to Calzaghe as he was back in 07 was it ? Anyway, the fact is MONEY. Why fight Cleverly, for peanuts, or Bute for millions. Calzaghe why fight Froch for peanuts, or Hopkins for millions. Calzaghe was in a much higher position than Froch, undefeated record, came off great wins and unified the division.
The reality is Froch thought he was going to win the super six, and he got schooled badly by Ward. Bute will now defeat him, which leaves him cannon-fodder for the young pretenders.
Call Calzaghe all you want, but Froch is not the I WILL FIGHT ANY-MAN ALIVE. He's a moneyman, just like every other fighter to put gloves on.
Cleverly deserves this fight, Froch step up be a man of your word.
When or if he fight's Bute it for the money not the belt or glory just £££ don't kid yourself boxing is
a business,good luck to Froch he may be full of shit. Did Calzaghe go up to 175 yes and beat 2 opponent's.Cleverly is a good fighter and has a good pedigree Remember it all about the money.!
I think people should get off Cheverly’s back, he is a young, talented but inexperienced fighter. He needs time to develop and gain experience. Forget the nonsense that Warren has spouted about fighting Hopkins that is just hype. The fight with Froch can also wait.
At last:appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
If anyone in the world of boxing fights to take on the best its Froch. He may be delusional but he wants to fight the best and be the best. I think at the end of the Ward fight he realised that he was outmatched. He is fighting Bute now and I garentee you he thinks he can win. I give him a chance. I still have my money on Bute but not counting Froch out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoIt's not about being biased,Froch is entertaining but we all have to face fact's he is a limited fighter,Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratWhy jump to 175 if you can still make weight at 168? Bute is a better opponent than Cleverly in every single respect. If you weren't biased, who would you give Froch more credit for beating Bute or Cleverly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoOk, Carl FrochQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI said louderQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYES:lolololol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI'll stick to the truth and glad to help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoStick to Fight Night.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeLet's compare recordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoSee your a Froch fan,;D what's not to like let's see is he undefeated, is he the best in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
will he get beat in his next fight probable.
Never mind may be you could match him on Fight Night, may I suggest a opponent let's see
Froch v Caldoron he may win that one.:biglaugh:
The truth will always prevail in the end and froch has fought the best and the youngest at their primes, undefeated means nothing, Calzaghe would have losses on his record if he actually took on the best when it mattered, and cleverly just keeps fighting bums, I would lick his arse of he had the froch heart and go to America for a unification bout.
What matters is who you fight and a real champ fights the best and defends on foreign soil
Established himself as a top class opponent, hasn't established himself as a champion. He's a level below Kessler, Ward, and Bute.
When he loses to Bute, he wont exactly be remembered as a talent, he will be remembered as a good-fighter. But lets be honest, most of Britain doesn't know who he is, his bubble has been burst since the Kessler fight.
He was handled wrong with Hennesy in my opinion, to late when sky got him. He's to one dimensional to be a great fighter.
I see Froch has not stuck to his word *I will give an up and coming fighter, his due, by fighting me*.
Boxing is a business and its about the money, Froch is still good enough to earn a couple of million or whatever he earns per-fight. There's no excuses why Froch shouldn't fight Cleverly.
Froch has contradicted himself and being a hypocrite in my opinion.
Slander Calzaghe for the position he was in. Hopkins - Jones in America, or Carl who ? In Britain.
Froch is in a very similar position to Calzaghe as he was back in 07 was it ? Anyway, the fact is MONEY. Why fight Cleverly, for peanuts, or Bute for millions. Calzaghe why fight Froch for peanuts, or Hopkins for millions. Calzaghe was in a much higher position than Froch, undefeated record, came off great wins and unified the division.
The reality is Froch thought he was going to win the super six, and he got schooled badly by Ward. Bute will now defeat him, which leaves him cannon-fodder for the young pretenders.
Call Calzaghe all you want, but Froch is not the I WILL FIGHT ANY-MAN ALIVE. He's a moneyman, just like every other fighter to put gloves on.
Cleverly deserves this fight, Froch step up be a man of your word.
When or if he fight's Bute it for the money not the belt or glory just £££ don't kid yourself boxing is
a business,good luck to Froch he may be full of shit. Did Calzaghe go up to 175 yes and beat 2 opponent's.Cleverly is a good fighter and has a good pedigree Remember it all about the money.!
As far as Cleverly goes. He has had 23 fights and needs to step up. Compare him to murray. He prided himself on being the british fighter with most undefeated fights. But that means nothing when your fighting a bunch of losers.
Now compare him to Khan. 3 more fights than Cleverly and has faced the best opposition in his devision.
Now if he fights Froch then all power to him for stepping up. But im not going to blame Froch for taking the harder and more important fight in Bute. I would be more irritated if he took the easier fight in Cleverly.
Good point, Leighten. Who's the tougher fight? Who would you give Froch more credit for facing?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeightonIf anyone in the world of boxing fights to take on the best its Froch. He may be delusional but he wants to fight the best and be the best. I think at the end of the Ward fight he realised that he was outmatched. He is fighting Bute now and I garentee you he thinks he can win. I give him a chance. I still have my money on Bute but not counting Froch out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoIt's not about being biased,Froch is entertaining but we all have to face fact's he is a limited fighter,Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratWhy jump to 175 if you can still make weight at 168? Bute is a better opponent than Cleverly in every single respect. If you weren't biased, who would you give Froch more credit for beating Bute or Cleverly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoOk, Carl FrochQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI said louderQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYES:lolololol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI'll stick to the truth and glad to help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoStick to Fight Night.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeLet's compare recordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoSee your a Froch fan,;D what's not to like let's see is he undefeated, is he the best in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
will he get beat in his next fight probable.
Never mind may be you could match him on Fight Night, may I suggest a opponent let's see
Froch v Caldoron he may win that one.:biglaugh:
The truth will always prevail in the end and froch has fought the best and the youngest at their primes, undefeated means nothing, Calzaghe would have losses on his record if he actually took on the best when it mattered, and cleverly just keeps fighting bums, I would lick his arse of he had the froch heart and go to America for a unification bout.
What matters is who you fight and a real champ fights the best and defends on foreign soil
Established himself as a top class opponent, hasn't established himself as a champion. He's a level below Kessler, Ward, and Bute.
When he loses to Bute, he wont exactly be remembered as a talent, he will be remembered as a good-fighter. But lets be honest, most of Britain doesn't know who he is, his bubble has been burst since the Kessler fight.
He was handled wrong with Hennesy in my opinion, to late when sky got him. He's to one dimensional to be a great fighter.
I see Froch has not stuck to his word *I will give an up and coming fighter, his due, by fighting me*.
Boxing is a business and its about the money, Froch is still good enough to earn a couple of million or whatever he earns per-fight. There's no excuses why Froch shouldn't fight Cleverly.
Froch has contradicted himself and being a hypocrite in my opinion.
Slander Calzaghe for the position he was in. Hopkins - Jones in America, or Carl who ? In Britain.
Froch is in a very similar position to Calzaghe as he was back in 07 was it ? Anyway, the fact is MONEY. Why fight Cleverly, for peanuts, or Bute for millions. Calzaghe why fight Froch for peanuts, or Hopkins for millions. Calzaghe was in a much higher position than Froch, undefeated record, came off great wins and unified the division.
The reality is Froch thought he was going to win the super six, and he got schooled badly by Ward. Bute will now defeat him, which leaves him cannon-fodder for the young pretenders.
Call Calzaghe all you want, but Froch is not the I WILL FIGHT ANY-MAN ALIVE. He's a moneyman, just like every other fighter to put gloves on.
Cleverly deserves this fight, Froch step up be a man of your word.
When or if he fight's Bute it for the money not the belt or glory just £££ don't kid yourself boxing is
a business,good luck to Froch he may be full of shit. Did Calzaghe go up to 175 yes and beat 2 opponent's.Cleverly is a good fighter and has a good pedigree Remember it all about the money.!
As far as Cleverly goes. He has had 23 fights and needs to step up. Compare him to murray. He prided himself on being the british fighter with most undefeated fights. But that means nothing when your fighting a bunch of losers.
Now compare him to Khan. 3 more fights than Cleverly and has faced the best opposition in his devision.
Now if he fights Froch then all power to him for stepping up. But im not going to blame Froch for taking the harder and more important fight in Bute. I would be more irritated if he took the easier fight in Cleverly.
Do you mean out of Cleverly and Bute. Or anyone in the devision. If its the first I would say Bute. Even though he has not fought the quality of opposition Froch has. However you dont know how good Cleverly really is until he fights good opposition. I dont blame him entirely as Braehmer pulled out of the title fight. That would have been a good name for him, and a good challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratGood point, Leighten. Who's the tougher fight? Who would you give Froch more credit for facing?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeightonIf anyone in the world of boxing fights to take on the best its Froch. He may be delusional but he wants to fight the best and be the best. I think at the end of the Ward fight he realised that he was outmatched. He is fighting Bute now and I garentee you he thinks he can win. I give him a chance. I still have my money on Bute but not counting Froch out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoIt's not about being biased,Froch is entertaining but we all have to face fact's he is a limited fighter,Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratWhy jump to 175 if you can still make weight at 168? Bute is a better opponent than Cleverly in every single respect. If you weren't biased, who would you give Froch more credit for beating Bute or Cleverly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoOk, Carl FrochQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI said louderQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYES:lolololol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI'll stick to the truth and glad to help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoStick to Fight Night.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeLet's compare recordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoSee your a Froch fan,;D what's not to like let's see is he undefeated, is he the best in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
will he get beat in his next fight probable.
Never mind may be you could match him on Fight Night, may I suggest a opponent let's see
Froch v Caldoron he may win that one.:biglaugh:
The truth will always prevail in the end and froch has fought the best and the youngest at their primes, undefeated means nothing, Calzaghe would have losses on his record if he actually took on the best when it mattered, and cleverly just keeps fighting bums, I would lick his arse of he had the froch heart and go to America for a unification bout.
What matters is who you fight and a real champ fights the best and defends on foreign soil
Established himself as a top class opponent, hasn't established himself as a champion. He's a level below Kessler, Ward, and Bute.
When he loses to Bute, he wont exactly be remembered as a talent, he will be remembered as a good-fighter. But lets be honest, most of Britain doesn't know who he is, his bubble has been burst since the Kessler fight.
He was handled wrong with Hennesy in my opinion, to late when sky got him. He's to one dimensional to be a great fighter.
I see Froch has not stuck to his word *I will give an up and coming fighter, his due, by fighting me*.
Boxing is a business and its about the money, Froch is still good enough to earn a couple of million or whatever he earns per-fight. There's no excuses why Froch shouldn't fight Cleverly.
Froch has contradicted himself and being a hypocrite in my opinion.
Slander Calzaghe for the position he was in. Hopkins - Jones in America, or Carl who ? In Britain.
Froch is in a very similar position to Calzaghe as he was back in 07 was it ? Anyway, the fact is MONEY. Why fight Cleverly, for peanuts, or Bute for millions. Calzaghe why fight Froch for peanuts, or Hopkins for millions. Calzaghe was in a much higher position than Froch, undefeated record, came off great wins and unified the division.
The reality is Froch thought he was going to win the super six, and he got schooled badly by Ward. Bute will now defeat him, which leaves him cannon-fodder for the young pretenders.
Call Calzaghe all you want, but Froch is not the I WILL FIGHT ANY-MAN ALIVE. He's a moneyman, just like every other fighter to put gloves on.
Cleverly deserves this fight, Froch step up be a man of your word.
When or if he fight's Bute it for the money not the belt or glory just £££ don't kid yourself boxing is
a business,good luck to Froch he may be full of shit. Did Calzaghe go up to 175 yes and beat 2 opponent's.Cleverly is a good fighter and has a good pedigree Remember it all about the money.!
As far as Cleverly goes. He has had 23 fights and needs to step up. Compare him to murray. He prided himself on being the british fighter with most undefeated fights. But that means nothing when your fighting a bunch of losers.
Now compare him to Khan. 3 more fights than Cleverly and has faced the best opposition in his devision.
Now if he fights Froch then all power to him for stepping up. But im not going to blame Froch for taking the harder and more important fight in Bute. I would be more irritated if he took the easier fight in Cleverly.
In the devision I would give Froch credit for challenging Ward again. Im not saying I want to see the fight as he will lose badly, but if he still wants to fight him after the beating he got then all power to him.
As far as a fight I would like to see Froch take, that would be a Kessler rematch. In my opinion the most entertaining fight of the super six.
Thats what I think, even though looking back at my posts im being a bit too opinionated.
Who would you like to see Froch fight. Further more who would you want to see Cleverly fight in his devision. I know the top four players in the devision but the others in the top ten I have not seen them fight.