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On his day, in his prime Evander Holyfield is difficult for anyone to beat. He's all heart & hustle.
Would I want t see Wlad or Vitali fight Evander? Right now the answer is HELL NO, Prime for Prime, certainly that would be interesting. The more I think about it though the Bowe that beat Evander was just a smaller, less in shape C grade version of the Klitschko brothers...Riddick didn't have the skill or power of either brother and he certainly didn't have great stamina either.
prime bowe smokes the k brothers.
Damn, they have there own brand of cigarettes now too?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Wlad stops Bowe in 7 & Vitali stops Bowe in 3...the guy had little defense, wasn't a tremendous puncher, and didn't have great stamina either. Riddick Bowe is a clearance bin Larry Holmes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
It would be easy to pick the Bowe who defeated Holyfield for the title, against either Klitschko brother. However, there is a big problem with this. We have only seen THAT Bowe ONCE. It's really hard to base much on his performance because all of his other performances were far below that. Do you REALLY think you will see the Buster Douglas who beat Mike Tyson, always?
Some people still refuse to give either Wladimir or Vitali any credit for their accomplishments. I can tell you that Wladimir is FAR better than the fighter who got stopped by Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. I can also tell you that Bowe has never faced anyone near the Klitschko type. Sure, he faced Jose Gonzales. But height is the only thing he has in common with either Klitschko.
IT's not likely that Bowe would hurt Vitali at any point during the fight. Vitali could take a shot well and he would be dishing out his own. Bowe is a better boxer than Vitali but Vitali is far more durable. Somewhere in the middle rounds, Vitali begins to fight through Bowe's offense. Bowe piled up points from rounds 1 to 4. Then he started to slow down and get caught by Vitali's return fire. It's only a matter of time from there.
V. Klitschko by TKO in 11
Wladimir is a better boxer than Bowe. People tend to feed into all that "I'm from Brooklyn" crap Bowe likes to talk, as if that automatically makes him tougher. There are parts of the world that make Brooklyn look like a grade schoolyard. Ask mental midget Andrew Golota where he came from and why he wasn't intimidated by Bowe's tough talk.
Wladimir would walk through any offense Bowe could offer. Wladimir is a bit of a thinker. They would box evenly in the early rounds. However, once he senses that Bowe is slowing down, Wladimir begins to pick up the pace and land more accurate punches.
Before long, Bowe runs out of options while Wladimir lands at will. The referee spars Bowe of any further punishment or humiliation from his pre-fight trash talk.
W. Klitschko by TKO in 10.
P.s Go watch vitali vs herbie hide and larry donald then go watch bowe fight them! Then tell me bowe is superior! Bowe did not match up well with these big eastern european dudes, Alexander “Miron” Miroshnichenko had his number in the amateurs and golota who is a level below either brother pretty much abused him twice!
bowe would rıse to the occasıon. the lazy fucxk would only fıght to the level of hıs competıtıon.
Andrew Golota schooled him twice, Wlad and Vitali are both faaaaaaar better than GolotaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
styles make fights.....bowe could always reach hıs opponents wıth that long loopıng overhand rıght. ıf lesser opponents than bowe have KO'ed both k brothers, bowe would have atleast that chance and much more to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAndrew Golota schooled him twice, Wlad and Vitali are both faaaaaaar better than GolotaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Uh huh....well if he was so great at that how coem he never used it vs Golota whom we all know had a dodgey chin?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbuststyles make fights.....bowe could always reach hıs opponents wıth that long loopıng overhand rıght. ıf lesser opponents than bowe have KO'ed both k brothers, bowe would have atleast that chance and much more to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAndrew Golota schooled him twice, Wlad and Vitali are both faaaaaaar better than GolotaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
The FACT is Bowe never once fought a power puncher and for good reason....he would have been KO'd. No Tyson, no Briggs, no Lewis, no Foreman, no Ruddock, no Mercer, no Morrison, nobody!
he dıd floor golota twıce ı belıeve. anyway bowe was rather faded byu the tıme he fought golota. after the 3 wars wıth evander. k brothers would smoke 1996 bowe for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong...well if he was so great at that how coem he never used it vs Golota whom we all know had a dodgey chin?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbuststyles make fights.....bowe could always reach hıs opponents wıth that long loopıng overhand rıght. ıf lesser opponents than bowe have KO'ed both k brothers, bowe would have atleast that chance and much more to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAndrew Golota schooled him twice, Wlad and Vitali are both faaaaaaar better than GolotaQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
He put Golota down 1 time....Bowe was knocked down twice by Golota. Tell me Brockton, who do you think hits harder Wladimir & Vitali or Andrew Golota?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Evander Holyfeild the first time around that he fought Bowie was still tad off since seeing his brother shot dead and all i think i would be. I think Evander prime pretty much ended after the rematch with Bowie.
truth Lyle ıs I dont gıve a rat's ass about any of those 3 fıghters. Sure the leverage the K bros. get on theır shots ıs greater than Golota got---Golota was no one-punch KO artıst. I agree Vıtaly hıts harder but I wonder about Wlad. Anyway only tıme wıll tell Lyle, I may reverse my opınıon about them, but I just dont lıke them, I feel theır heıght and reach gıves them a serıously unfaır advantage over theır opponents and there should be a Superheavyweıght Dıvısıon to fıeld that sıtuatıon.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe put Golota down 1 time....Bowe was knocked down twice by Golota. Tell me Brockton, who do you think hits harder Wladimir & Vitali or Andrew Golota?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
You never answered my questıon about what constıtutes a faır fıght. Yes or No Lyle, can you answer eıther Yes or No....do you thınk Marcıano vs Klıtschko would be a faır fıght? Yes or No.
Fine you don't care about them, whoopty do. Wlad has 51 KO's in 58 wins that's pretty fucking impressive and guarantees that he's one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time. The Super heavyweight division has been attempted before and it simply does not work. There are plenty of heavyweights as big or bigger than Wlad, but they just aren't as good in the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Marciano vs either Klitschko brother isn't a fair fight, Rocky was BARELY a heavyweight himself. Today he would be closer to light heavyweight than anything else. So I would say NO....but I would also say Marciano vs everyone this side of Sonny Liston wouldn't have been a "fair fight" not that The Rock wouldn't have won his fair share, but they just wouldn't match up in size.
good I agree as well ıt would not be faır at all, and we all agree ıts merely due to the sıze dıfferentıal, rıght? Therefore eıther the Rock would need to be reclassıfıed as a lıghtheavy or whatever, or the K bros would have to be reclassıfıed as Superheavy. They both cannot be consıdered heavyweıghts.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongFine you don't care about them, whoopty do. Wlad has 51 KO's in 58 wins that's pretty fucking impressive and guarantees that he's one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time. The Super heavyweight division has been attempted before and it simply does not work. There are plenty of heavyweights as big or bigger than Wlad, but they just aren't as good in the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Marciano vs either Klitschko brother isn't a fair fight, Rocky was BARELY a heavyweight himself. Today he would be closer to light heavyweight than anything else. So I would say NO....but I would also say Marciano vs everyone this side of Sonny Liston wouldn't have been a "fair fight" not that The Rock wouldn't have won his fair share, but they just wouldn't match up in size.