Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
I predicted that Rigon would beat him.
It was close but he did do enough.
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
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Say this again that Donaire is one of the most overrated guys that were on the top 10 to be honest. He had a few good wins but they were really far apart from one another. Then he fights a top guy who wont stand in front of him and he looks lost i dont think he should of been so high on his rank at all.
Its hard to know. He fought some decent guys but towards the end of their careers so hard to know if they were past it. I always thought he was a bully, always fighting smaller guys. Also thought he was ducking Rigo and then when Rigo looked poor against Marroquin decided to take it as he thought Rigo might have been passed it.Id like to see him move up in weight. Hopefully Rigo comes over and fights Quigg or Frampton, not because i think theyd win but would love to see rigo again. Only got a minute of him last time he was over with big bang.
Apart from Rigo, this division looks there for the taking fro Frampton and Quigg. Theyd both be in for a shout against anyone.
Not only was he over hyped but benifitted from fighting smaller washed upguys. Rig schooled him and totally exposed his lack of true craft. Nonitos best and only asset is his power hook. I also witnessed him puss out in the 12th when he got hurt. Mares would totally outbully him and make him quit. Another over hyped filipino puppet of Top Rank gets a fierce beating when put in with top notch talent.
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
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I had this fight close:
I gave Donaire rd 4, 5 and 10 with the 10th being a 10-8 and Rigor ds 1, 3, 6 and 12. Rds 2, 7, 8 and 11 I gave draws giving 116-115 to Rigo.
If I take out the draws and had to give a winner to each rd id give Rigo 7 and 6 and donaire 11 and 2 making it 114-113 Rigo.
I felt a lot of Rounds Rigo did nothing in and although probably landed cleaner shots, didn’t land enough shots to win the rounds.. He was too slick though for Donaire who I thought would win by KO
I know Ill probably be slated for scoring too many even rounds but i thought a lot were hard to score. Round 5 I gave to Donaire because Rigo did absolutely nothing.
Any case I gave it to Rigo so happy the judges got it right. When I heard the big score of 116-111 I though it was going to be a Donaire robbery.
*So..according to what u posted here, u had Donaire ahead after 5 rounds... lol..DAMN.
Master; I had Donaire winning, the fight was poor at times and sometimes I did not want to give either fighter the round. Donaire at least tried and made a go of it.
*No shit..! u had Donaire winning... what were u on? I'm just asking.. musta been a great high.
High on Pinoy pride.... I had Nonito winning 2 rounds and playing the role of a bitch in the 12th. Totally quit when he really got tagged. No Mexican fighter would have pulled that caution bullshit
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bigstinkybug
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Silkeyjoe
I had this fight close:
I gave Donaire rd 4, 5 and 10 with the 10th being a 10-8 and Rigor ds 1, 3, 6 and 12. Rds 2, 7, 8 and 11 I gave draws giving 116-115 to Rigo.
If I take out the draws and had to give a winner to each rd id give Rigo 7 and 6 and donaire 11 and 2 making it 114-113 Rigo.
I felt a lot of Rounds Rigo did nothing in and although probably landed cleaner shots, didn’t land enough shots to win the rounds.. He was too slick though for Donaire who I thought would win by KO
I know Ill probably be slated for scoring too many even rounds but i thought a lot were hard to score. Round 5 I gave to Donaire because Rigo did absolutely nothing.
Any case I gave it to Rigo so happy the judges got it right. When I heard the big score of 116-111 I though it was going to be a Donaire robbery.
*So..according to what u posted here, u had Donaire ahead after 5 rounds... lol..DAMN.
Master; I had Donaire winning, the fight was poor at times and sometimes I did not want to give either fighter the round. Donaire at least tried and made a go of it.
*No shit..! u had Donaire winning... what were u on? I'm just asking.. musta been a great high.
High on Pinoy pride.... I had Nonito winning 2 rounds and playing the role of a bitch in the 12th. Totally quit when he really got tagged. No Mexican fighter would have pulled that caution bullshit
I had it even after 5.
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I gave Donaire rounds 4, 7 and 10 . So my card is 116-111 . Not close at all. If Donaire wouldn't land that shot that knocked Rigo down, he would probably lose the round lol
Round 5 and 2 were very close. I can definitely see an argument for Donaire in those 2. Giving Donaire makes it 114-113, a close fight, or giving the 2 rounds even, 116-113 again close enough
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
@Andre you may be right, looking at what other people have said I may have seen too much from Donaire and not enough from Rigo. It was not a entertaining fight and I think their styles make up for a dull fight.
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I had Donaire winning 2 rounds, and I can understand giving him 3.
But sweet jesus, I don't see how the fight was close at all. Yeah there was not much happening, but you have to figure there was one guy who had complete control of the ring and was consistently landing the clean, effective punches.
Yeah if you count Compubox totals the rounds seemed close, but Compubox will often give guys credit for punches that are glancing blows, half blocked, blocked entirely, and sometimes punches that miss the target entirely. I don't think there is any question that Rigo was landing the clean, effective blows in the fight, with the exception of course of the knockdown and the nice counter hook he nailed Rigo with early on.
It's always interesting when a fight like this comes up because you get to see the difference in which fight fans view boxing. I suspect a lot of people gave Donaire rounds he got lit up in just because he was moving foward (boxing rewards "effective aggressiveness", not just "aggressiveness").
Anyway I'd love to hear some people justify a close fight or even a Donaire win. Maybe you guys saw something I didn't. I saw Rigo taking Donaire to school.
I don't know about "school", but Rigon got the better of Donaire who was ineffective, due mainly to Rigon slipping or moving away from his punches. Rigon winning 116-111 sounds about right to me.
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
I had it close but I gave it to Rigo 7-5 on the cards.
I had it 2-2 after 4 but I didn't once have Donaire ahead in the fight. I should point out that my Sky cut (no signal) 2 minutes into the 11th. At that point I had Donaire winning the round because he'd landed the harder shots but I read reports that Rigo gave him a beating the the last minute so my scored may have changed to 8 rounds to 4. Gave it what I'd seen to that point though.
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
Just watched the replay of this last night...this fight was not close AT ALL. Were some of you watching the same fight?! Rigo completely outboxed and outclassed Donaire.
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
Downloaded a torrent of the fight yesterday and have watched it twice. The only rounds I gave Donaire were the second and tenth. Rigo's movement away from the left hook was just too much for him to handle. I can think of only a few times he was even in position to land it, let alone effectively. At times saw Rigo when under pressure and about to be pushed to the ropes land a lead left on the move before pivoting away and under a possible left hook which was nice to see and a sign that he's adding some more wrinkles to his pro game. As for it being a boring fight, yeh some of the middle rounds were absolute stinkers but in my opinion Rigo's entitled to use his low risk style. The guy's risked everything already just to be able to fight pro. He's lost his family, friends and country so if he's got the skills and knowledge to take an early lead on the cards and the champ that's talked all this shit about knocking him out cold doesn't want to take the risks he should be then it's Donaire's fault and no one else's. Plus the times Donaire actually used his much vaunted power Rigo came back harder almost everytime. Rigo is a legend in the making, his ability and story are incredible and if you put him in with the same brawlers Donaire's been in he'd seem entertaining as well. Add the fact that his gold teeth are his Olympiic medals :o
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@Greenbeanz
From another thread:
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The first round was great and if a casual fan had stayed with it and watched all 12 rounds they would have been surprised that the Philippino guy had turned Pro in 2001 and the Cuban in 2009.
Talk about nailing it on the head.
A few of us prior to the fight discussed the transfer from amateur to pro. Many on forums dismissed his 400 fights as not applicable.
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
Looking thru the thread, can't help but notice the hate for Donaire from the usual suspects. Overrated? Off of 1 bad fight? Ok... :rolleyes:
All credit to Rigo, who pulled it off. But all this p4p talk is a bit premature, IMO. The guy barely has 10 pro fights. Let him build his pro record a bit more... and then we can talk p4p. Yeah, he made a huge jump with this win, but let's not get hasty and erect a statue just yet.
Donaire is still an elite fighter, and he'll bounce back from this loss. Which by the way, was a convincing win for Rigo. I don't let my preferences color my judgement. Rigo won it going away.
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Downloaded a torrent of the fight yesterday and have watched it twice. The only rounds I gave Donaire were the second and tenth. Rigo's movement away from the left hook was just too much for him to handle. I can think of only a few times he was even in position to land it, let alone effectively. At times saw Rigo when under pressure and about to be pushed to the ropes land a lead left on the move before pivoting away and under a possible left hook which was nice to see and a sign that he's adding some more wrinkles to his pro game. As for it being a boring fight, yeh some of the middle rounds were absolute stinkers but in my opinion Rigo's entitled to use his low risk style. The guy's risked everything already just to be able to fight pro. He's lost his family, friends and country so if he's got the skills and knowledge to take an early lead on the cards and the champ that's talked all this shit about knocking him out cold doesn't want to take the risks he should be then it's Donaire's fault and no one else's. Plus the times Donaire actually used his much vaunted power Rigo came back harder almost everytime. Rigo is a legend in the making, his ability and story are incredible and if you put him in with the same brawlers Donaire's been in he'd seem entertaining as well. Add the fact that his gold teeth are his Olympiic medals :o
What are you saying here? He melted down his medals or sold them off to pay for teeth work :confused:
Re: Is there anyone who thought Donaire won, or the fight was razor close?
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TitoFan
Looking thru the thread, can't help but notice the hate for Donaire from the usual suspects. Overrated? Off of 1 bad fight? Ok... :rolleyes:
All credit to Rigo, who pulled it off. But all this p4p talk is a bit premature, IMO. The guy barely has 10 pro fights. Let him build his pro record a bit more... and then we can talk p4p. Yeah, he made a huge jump with this win, but let's not get hasty and erect a statue just yet.
Donaire is still an elite fighter, and he'll bounce back from this loss. Which by the way, was a convincing win for Rigo. I don't let my preferences color my judgement. Rigo won it going away.
My friend I spend no mind on this phantom p4p monthly love list. Pure plastic. I had no dog here but did not discount Rigo's chances. And I did think Donaire was overrated prior to this fight.
I'm an empiricist though.
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TitoFan
Looking thru the thread, can't help but notice the hate for Donaire from the usual suspects. Overrated? Off of 1 bad fight? Ok... :rolleyes:
All credit to Rigo, who pulled it off. But all this p4p talk is a bit premature, IMO. The guy barely has 10 pro fights. Let him build his pro record a bit more... and then we can talk p4p. Yeah, he made a huge jump with this win, but let's not get hasty and erect a statue just yet.
Donaire is still an elite fighter, and he'll bounce back from this loss. Which by the way, was a convincing win for Rigo. I don't let my preferences color my judgement. Rigo won it going away.
My friend I spend no mind on this phantom p4p monthly love list. Pure plastic. I had no dog here but did not discount Rigo's chances. And I did think Donaire was overrated prior to this fight.
I'm an empiricist though.
Yeah, bro... p4p talk usually just muddles the water. And I know you had voiced your opinion of Nonito before the fight. I have to admit I was taken by surprise. I honestly thought Donaire had too much pro experience for Rigo... and was proven wrong.
