Duran : In My Era, Mayweather Would Have Been Ordinary

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Originally Posted by imp

Floyd has never quit and he has never lost AND he has fought so many different styles!

Since 2002 when Castillo whupped him at 135 and got robbed on the cards, Floyd ducked everyone with a pulse. Started avoiding literally all the best fighters at 135, 140, 147... for literally 9 years! The only legitimate top prime fighter he fought in those years was Ricky Hatton.

It's good that in the last year, he's finally decided to fight some top guys because being known more for who you didn't fight is not the legacy a fighter wants.

Face it, Floyd didn't have the guts that men like Duran, Hagler, Leonard, and Hearns did.

Lol, never get tired of hearing that one.

Highest paid athlete on earth and recogised as the £4£ but he doesnt have the guts like duran.

What does heart and guts mean?

If floyds face looked like rocky or cotto after every fight would that tip the balance in how much heart he has to show in every fight?

If floyd had a few losses or few more close decisons would that help to appreciate what he does anymore compared to how you feel now?

Why on earth would you want to get hit as much as some of the so called legends that you keep mentioning.

Duran and floyd are completely different fighters from different eras but lets just deal with these two and reflect what type of style is a problem for the other.

As someone mentioned we will never know who would win but thats the reason why it can be discussed so many times on forums like these.

Floyd and duran can fight a million times with both being exposed on certain flaws but duran does not deal with frustation very well and floyds style is not the best for him.

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First off, once you get past the article headline being a lie then you'll see a more reasonable Duran approach. Duran never said Mayweather would have been ordinary. What he said and was making it out to be is that Mayweather wouldn't have stood out from that elite hall of fame group he mixed it up with. He basically said Mayweather would have belonged in that group but wouldn't have stood out from them like they were second tier like he is doing to today's era. And with that point I don't necessarily disagree although I find it funny that Mayweather probably would have had the easiest time with Duran's style and maybe have knocked him from that group. Duran was 1-4 in that group and squeaked by for the lone victory at that. Every opponent in that group beat him. He might want to realize he actually was the low man on that totem pole. Adding Mayweather may have taken his name from belonging.

Duran smothered Leonard and beat him fairly clearly. It was a good fight but Duran clearly won. And he was fighting much bigger fighters at middlewieght in Leonard, Hearns and Hagler.

I think match up wise Duran and Floyd would be a good fight.

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Lets flip the script.

Would duran even survive in floyds era. :vd:

Dont be surprised if a prime cotto gets him out by 8 via bodyshots. :vd: :vd: :vd: :LOLATYOU:

A prime roid mosley destroys duran in 6. :vd:

Obviously these fights wont occur but dont underestimate what we have today in boxing.

This is our era.

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

Ps:- would duran even beat manny pac?:vd:

If you were to actually watch Duran fight you wouldn't be making such moronic comments.

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Lets flip the script.

Would duran even survive in floyds era.

Dont be surprised if a prime cotto gets him out by 8 via bodyshots.

A prime roid mosley destroys duran in 6.

Obviously these fights wont occur but dont underestimate what we have today in boxing.

This is our era.

The main weak divison today is the heavyweights. (Guess why)

Ps:- would duran even beat manny pac?

Would Duran survive? You are seriously asking "Would the GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT OF ALL-TIME survive Floyd's era?" .....are you that stupid?

I didn't know Floyd Mayweather Jr was immune to criticism...guess I missed that part. Every other boxer, oh yeah we can find flaws with them, but Floyd? Naaaaah man, totally 100% perfect :rolleyes:

Lightweight! Exactly.

Im talking welterweight.

Floyd has flaws but you cant seriously say he has more flaws than duran.

Duran came up short when stepping up to the big guns..natural progression is up.

Theres a case against floyd for leonard and hearns but IMHO duran would not have been an issue as those hands of stone just wouldnt touch a better defensive version of benitez in mayweather.

I see a baldomir type of fight with roberto saying "no mas" in the 9th round as the frustation would get the better of him.

Oh a thousand pardons.....allow me to rephrase my point....

Are you suggesting that one of the Greatest Pound-for-pound boxers of ALL-TIME would not handle the fighters these days?

You get to this site off of a short bus don't you?

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Duran is considered an ATG by most knowledgeable people in boxing.
He's just never been known much for his diplomacy (ie: he doesn't have any).

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Duran would beat the dogshit outa Cotto and Pac for sure.

U think pac-morales 1 was bad. Pac might be the one to quit in this fight.

Cotto don't even belong in the same stratosphere as duran. He couldn't beat margarito.

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

Well that sounds like a personal problem to me

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

Who deserves a shot and hasn't gotten it? Weak division or not Wlad runs it. And he runs it with a iron fist. Cuz I see nobody taking him any time soon. Wlad's actually doing something people want champions to do but very rarely do. He's beaten all the worthy contenders. Now he's beating all the unworthy contenders. That's how you clean out a division.

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

Well that sounds like a personal problem to me

Floyd will be more be considered greater so it's your problem.

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

Who deserves a shot and hasn't gotten it? Weak division or not Wlad runs it. And he runs it with a iron fist. Cuz I see nobody taking him any time soon. Wlad's actually doing something people want champions to do but very rarely do. He's beaten all the worthy contenders. Now he's beating all the unworthy contenders. That's how you clean out a division.

Do you consider him an ATG

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

Who deserves a shot and hasn't gotten it? Weak division or not Wlad runs it. And he runs it with a iron fist. Cuz I see nobody taking him any time soon. Wlad's actually doing something people want champions to do but very rarely do. He's beaten all the worthy contenders. Now he's beating all the unworthy contenders. That's how you clean out a division.

Do you consider him an ATG

Not yet. But he's on his way. Once he's done he will be ATG

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If I said the same think about the Klits and ATG heavyweights would you agree?

Say what you want about them, doesn't bother me, nor does it affect their legacies. In fact what Duran said about Floyd doesn't affect HIS legacy so why get all emotional and defensive like a little girl?

What Roberto Duran said is true...however nobody has said Floyd isn't a great fighter, nobody is taking away what he's done in the ring, but you get all upset just because an old timer doesn't kiss the ass of a current fighter and a few fans happen to agree.....that's fucking sad man

Actually I compared to similar situations and you got emotional, Wlad's latest opponents having been pretty bad.

There's a huge difference. There's a good amount of fighters Mayweather didn't fight and should of fought. I'm trying to find one fighter Wlad should of fought and didn't

Fair point but I'll never be convinced that this guy from Syria was the best Wlad could face.

Who deserves a shot and hasn't gotten it? Weak division or not Wlad runs it. And he runs it with a iron fist. Cuz I see nobody taking him any time soon. Wlad's actually doing something people want champions to do but very rarely do. He's beaten all the worthy contenders. Now he's beating all the unworthy contenders. That's how you clean out a division.

Do you consider him an ATG

Not yet. But he's on his way. Once he's done he will be ATG

I really don't know what to say about a heavyweight who reigns over a dead because he can't move up he can only face whose there but the Lewis fight tells me he's not great and it's the era. One thing about Floyd he is a small welter and people act like he needs to go to middleweight to be great day before weigh ins have really made what he has done even more impressive.