Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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Fenster
Nobody in the history of boxing can knock McCall out.
Superman, Thor, Hulk, Bruce Lee, Silverfox - It doesn't matter how many whacks to the head he gets he'll still be staring back at you. Fact.
I like how this has turned into a thread about how great of a chin Oliver McCall has. ;D
Long live McCall!!!
He's an OG bad ass ox of a motherfucker.
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Nobody in the history of boxing can knock McCall out.
Superman, Thor, Hulk, Bruce Lee, Silverfox - It doesn't matter how many whacks to the head he gets he'll still be staring back at you. Fact.
The crack pipe had him on his hands and knees multiple times
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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Jimanuel Boogustus
Either K2 provides a relatively even match up. I think if Lennox had his tactic spot on, he'd have a better chance with Vitali due to VKs lack of skill but Wladimir honestly is just as capable of flattening Lennox as is anyone.
Also, Larry has the jab, chin heart and conditioning to carry the fight so that's a tough one.
Lastly I think it's far to say that Evander has the style and attributes to give Lennox a rough night at any point of their respective careers- right up until the point that they actually met.
Ali? Hmm, I'm very dubious of how easy it is to overrate him. However, he achieved so much, he was just a winner.
Disagree totally. Wlad has no overhand right, no inside game and isn't much of a counter puncher. Have you ever seen Lewis badly hurt by a straight punch? No reason to give Wlad any more chance to KO Lewis than Vitali had in that respect, although he does hit harder. I think a great many fighters were better suited for Lennox myself, much lesser ones than Wlad at that. I don't see how Wlad even gets around Lewis having the better jab, let alone being so much more dynamic offensively.
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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p4pking
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Originally Posted by
Jimanuel Boogustus
Either K2 provides a relatively even match up. I think if Lennox had his tactic spot on, he'd have a better chance with Vitali due to VKs lack of skill but Wladimir honestly is just as capable of flattening Lennox as is anyone.
Also, Larry has the jab, chin heart and conditioning to carry the fight so that's a tough one.
Lastly I think it's far to say that Evander has the style and attributes to give Lennox a rough night at any point of their respective careers- right up until the point that they actually met.
Ali? Hmm, I'm very dubious of how easy it is to overrate him. However, he achieved so much, he was just a winner.
Disagree totally. Wlad has no overhand right, no inside game and isn't much of a counter puncher. Have you ever seen Lewis badly hurt by a straight punch? No reason to give Wlad any more chance to KO Lewis than Vitali had in that respect,
although he does hit harder. I think a great many fighters were better suited for Lennox myself, much lesser ones than Wlad at that. I don't see how Wlad even gets around Lewis having the better jab, let alone being so much more dynamic offensively.
Damn right he hits harder :D
He hits harder than most no?
Wlad is bigger, just as strong if not stronger, in my opinion has the better jab and overall is more accurate and potent and athletic and quicker and...
Seriously, just because you've seen Lennox get dropped by overhand rights that's only because he hadn't fought someone with the superior combination (and utilisation) of height, boxing ability and power.
There is a very good chance that Lennox would become frustrated by the superior jab/ long game/ footwork of Wladimir's and try to impose himself physically only putting himself at a further disadvantage and on course to getting flattened... unless Wladimir simply folds again under the pressure that Lennox would HAVE to assert.
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
When McCall and rahman knocked out Lewis, they really stepped in with the right hand and put their whole body into it. They saw an opening and threw that punch with conviction.
Today,s version of wlad rarely, if ever, fully commits to his punches in fear of counters. Defense is on his mind at all times.
Wlad wouldn't take chances like mccall and rahman. He gets his ass kicked
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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Originally Posted by
Jimanuel Boogustus
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Originally Posted by
p4pking
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Originally Posted by
Jimanuel Boogustus
Either K2 provides a relatively even match up. I think if Lennox had his tactic spot on, he'd have a better chance with Vitali due to VKs lack of skill but Wladimir honestly is just as capable of flattening Lennox as is anyone.
Also, Larry has the jab, chin heart and conditioning to carry the fight so that's a tough one.
Lastly I think it's far to say that Evander has the style and attributes to give Lennox a rough night at any point of their respective careers- right up until the point that they actually met.
Ali? Hmm, I'm very dubious of how easy it is to overrate him. However, he achieved so much, he was just a winner.
Disagree totally. Wlad has no overhand right, no inside game and isn't much of a counter puncher. Have you ever seen Lewis badly hurt by a straight punch? No reason to give Wlad any more chance to KO Lewis than Vitali had in that respect,
although he does hit harder. I think a great many fighters were better suited for Lennox myself, much lesser ones than Wlad at that. I don't see how Wlad even gets around Lewis having the better jab, let alone being so much more dynamic offensively.
Damn right he hits harder :D
He hits harder than most no?
Wlad is bigger, just as strong if not stronger, in my opinion has the better jab and overall is more accurate and potent and athletic and quicker and...
Seriously, just because you've seen Lennox get dropped by overhand rights that's only because he hadn't fought someone with the superior combination (and utilisation) of height, boxing ability and power.
There is a very good chance that Lennox would become frustrated by the superior jab/ long game/ footwork of Wladimir's and try to impose himself physically only putting himself at a further disadvantage and on course to getting flattened... unless Wladimir simply folds again under the pressure that Lennox would HAVE to assert.
Wladimir couldn't KO David Haye, but Lennox Lewis would have no choice but to go out on his shield huh:rolleyes: Who the hell has Wlad ever fought that's even close to Lewis, I think you're being fairly wishful here. Each his own...but Wlad more athletic, seriously? I guess power, quickness and footwork are debatable in themselves, but he had nowhere near the overall athleticism or depth that Lennox did, he is so mechanical in comparison there are no words. My point was that Lennox was knocked out both times by shorter men who threw wide while stepping in. Wlad never throws that way, is never in position to, so it's very unlikely he'd catch Lennox in a similar fashion. Does Wlad hit hard enough to hurt him with a straight right that Lennox would see coming? It's certainly possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. On the flip side, I have a pretty hard time seeing Wlad taking anything solid from Lewis as would most I suspect. If a fight broke out at ANY point in close, Wlad would be the one getting flattened.
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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Beanflicker
Jack dempsey didn't want anything to do with the black heavies of his own time, I doubt he'd fancy going up against a modern black monster like Lennox
Did he tell you that? Were you alive and actually spoke with Dempsey back then? I'm a Lennox fan too, but the way you word your post is bulshit.
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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DannyV297
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
Jack dempsey didn't want anything to do with the black heavies of his own time, I doubt he'd fancy going up against a modern black monster like Lennox
Did he tell you that? Were you alive and actually spoke with Dempsey back then? I'm a Lennox fan too, but the way you word your post is bulshit.
Dempsey did refuse to fight blacks when he was champ, and was open about his disdain for them. I'm pretty sure he never fought a single one, it's hardly bullshit to say so. Of course it may have been that nobody would have paid him accordingly either, most people concerned didn't want to see a black guy fight at the top level in those days:-\
Re: H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him
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Originally Posted by
imp
No one wanted to see any blacks esp after jack johnson thats why when joe louis came along he was more subservant to keep the peace.
Jack johnson was amazing as he was always himself in those dreadful fatal times.
Bit sad the irony that Johnson himself never defended his title against other blacks though, I can only imagine he didn't have much choice in the matter as they were always lining up the next white hope to beat him.
