H2H Lennox Lewis is the greatest of all time. Nobody beats him

[BIG H]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

[Jerry Rice]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

How would you know if we have a strait face or not ?

[armin]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

Come on if we used facial damage as a criteria for who was winning a fight then gatti and katsidis never won a fight in their life. Lewis was going to get the stoppage or vitali was going to end up with one eye missing, no denying that and they were right to stop it when they did, but lewis was clearly loosing up to that point on rounds and a rematch would have been awesome.

[imp]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

Come on if we used facial damage as a criteria for who was winning a fight then gatti and katsidis never won a fight in their life. Lewis was going to get the stoppage or vitali was going to end up with one eye missing, no denying that and they were right to stop it when they did, but lewis was clearly loosing up to that point on rounds and a rematch would have been awesome.

Lewis would never have been stopped.
Vitali would have never been stopped.

It wouldnt have reached the decision because the ref has a duty to stop it if a fighter is taken too much damage.

Lewis fists connected with vitali face alot harder than what vitalis fists did to lewis face.

So, the ref saved vitali from any possible long term damage by stopping it.

Lewis won because of the accuracy and power of his shots inflicted so much damage that a third party had to stop the fight.

Vitali is a beast and the best of this post lennox era but theres nothing else to understand.

Lewis beat vitali.

[armin]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

Come on if we used facial damage as a criteria for who was winning a fight then gatti and katsidis never won a fight in their life. Lewis was going to get the stoppage or vitali was going to end up with one eye missing, no denying that and they were right to stop it when they did, but lewis was clearly loosing up to that point on rounds and a rematch would have been awesome.

Lewis would never have been stopped.
Vitali would have never been stopped.

It wouldnt have reached the decision because the ref has a duty to stop it if a fighter is taken too much damage.

Lewis fists connected with vitali face alot harder than what vitalis fists did to lewis face.

So, the ref saved vitali from any possible long term damage by stopping it.

Lewis won because of the accuracy and power of his shots inflicted so much damage that a third party had to stop the fight.

Vitali is a beast and the best of this post lennox era but theres nothing else to understand.

Lewis beat vitali.

Uhm and what I said is in disagreement exactly how?

[imp]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

Come on if we used facial damage as a criteria for who was winning a fight then gatti and katsidis never won a fight in their life. Lewis was going to get the stoppage or vitali was going to end up with one eye missing, no denying that and they were right to stop it when they did, but lewis was clearly loosing up to that point on rounds and a rematch would have been awesome.

Lewis would never have been stopped.
Vitali would have never been stopped.

It wouldnt have reached the decision because the ref has a duty to stop it if a fighter is taken too much damage.

Lewis fists connected with vitali face alot harder than what vitalis fists did to lewis face.

So, the ref saved vitali from any possible long term damage by stopping it.

Lewis won because of the accuracy and power of his shots inflicted so much damage that a third party had to stop the fight.

Vitali is a beast and the best of this post lennox era but theres nothing else to understand.

Lewis beat vitali.

Uhm and what I said is in disagreement exactly how?

Armin, theres no disagreement.

I agree.

I wish there would have been a rematch.
But as someone mentioned he went out on a tough fight when he is way past his prime.

[armin]

Please, with a straight face, tell me Lewis was losing the fight

Come on if we used facial damage as a criteria for who was winning a fight then gatti and katsidis never won a fight in their life. Lewis was going to get the stoppage or vitali was going to end up with one eye missing, no denying that and they were right to stop it when they did, but lewis was clearly loosing up to that point on rounds and a rematch would have been awesome.

Lewis would never have been stopped.
Vitali would have never been stopped.

It wouldnt have reached the decision because the ref has a duty to stop it if a fighter is taken too much damage.

Lewis fists connected with vitali face alot harder than what vitalis fists did to lewis face.

So, the ref saved vitali from any possible long term damage by stopping it.

Lewis won because of the accuracy and power of his shots inflicted so much damage that a third party had to stop the fight.

Vitali is a beast and the best of this post lennox era but theres nothing else to understand.

Lewis beat vitali.

Uhm and what I said is in disagreement exactly how?

Armin, theres no disagreement.

I agree.

I wish there would have been a rematch.
But as someone mentioned he went out on a tough fight when he is way past his prime.

Oh ok cause I was like what the hell, lol. I don't fault for lennox for retiring he's one of the very few to call it quits and not become a punching bag for some up and comers and that's good for him, but as a selfish boxing fan I would have loved to seen a rematch, not even for wanting to see a different outcome or anything but because it was a truly fun fight.

[imp]

No one wanted to see any blacks esp after jack johnson thats why when joe louis came along he was more subservant to keep the peace.

Jack johnson was amazing as he was always himself in those dreadful fatal times.

[p4pking]

No one wanted to see any blacks esp after jack johnson thats why when joe louis came along he was more subservant to keep the peace.

Jack johnson was amazing as he was always himself in those dreadful fatal times.

Bit sad the irony that Johnson himself never defended his title against other blacks though, I can only imagine he didn't have much choice in the matter as they were always lining up the next white hope to beat him.

[imp]

No one wanted to see any blacks esp after jack johnson thats why when joe louis came along he was more subservant to keep the peace.

Jack johnson was amazing as he was always himself in those dreadful fatal times.

Bit sad the irony that Johnson himself never defended his title against other blacks though, I can only imagine he didn't have much choice in the matter as they were always lining up the next white hope to beat him.

Jack johnson fought in the worst adversity any boxer has had in all boxing history.

He could have been killed after any of his fights.

Didnt they used to fight 20-30 rds back then?

[Master]

No one wanted to see any blacks esp after jack johnson thats why when joe louis came along he was more subservant to keep the peace.

Jack johnson was amazing as he was always himself in those dreadful fatal times.

Bit sad the irony that Johnson himself never defended his title against other blacks though, I can only imagine he didn't have much choice in the matter as they were always lining up the next white hope to beat him.

Jack johnson fought in the worst adversity any boxer has had in all boxing history.

He could have been killed after any of his fights.

Didnt they used to fight 20-30 rds back then?

Yes and sometimes even more rounds than that.

[imp]

No one wanted to see any blacks esp after jack johnson thats why when joe louis came along he was more subservant to keep the peace.

Jack johnson was amazing as he was always himself in those dreadful fatal times.

Bit sad the irony that Johnson himself never defended his title against other blacks though, I can only imagine he didn't have much choice in the matter as they were always lining up the next white hope to beat him.

Jack johnson fought in the worst adversity any boxer has had in all boxing history.

He could have been killed after any of his fights.

Didnt they used to fight 20-30 rds back then?

Yes and sometimes even more rounds than that.

Jeez.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Wasn't it Doc Kearns who stopped Dempsey from fighting blacks?

[p4pking]

Wasn't it Doc Kearns who stopped Dempsey from fighting blacks?

Actually just read up a little on Dempsey to check this. Apparently he was willing to fight Harry Wills and both men had in fact signed the contract, only a promoter never came through with his purse guarantee. I believe Dempsey had initially take the stance that he wouldn't fight blacks though, but who knows if he was told to say so for popularity etc. The other thing is that Dempseys reign came after the best crop of black Heavies were getting well long in the tooth anyways, which I hadn't realized. Even Harry Wills would have been pushing 35 by the time Dempsey was champion, which was ancient for a fighter in those days. Guys like Langford and Mcvey, Jeanette were completely worn out by the 20's etc. Dempsey also later stated he wouldn't have fancied fighting Joe Louis etc, who would have killed him.