NFL star suspended for two games for knocking wife unconscious

Is she a looker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDzCcX1_Ifk

Since the release of this video Ray Rice has been cut by the Ravens and suspended by the NFL indefinitely.



I wonder how long before he blames head injuries for his short temper?

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I don't think any athletic commission should be acting as a moral authority in the first place, to be honest. If this guy seriously assaulted his wife, it's a criminal matter and he should be tried, possibly serve some time or probation etc, then the NFL can decide how to act based on what is legally pending. What they have to say about it before the fact is and should be completely irrelevant, and it speaks to how silly people are about sports. If one a)believes this guy is guilty as charged, and b) puts their faith in the NFL to determine his punishment, they may as well go knock themselves unconscious imo. How many days of work do you think the average person deserves to miss for assaulting their wife? Not exactly the way things should work.

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Very good, logical post.

I don't think a player should be banned for knocking out his wife either. Now if you attacked another player in a game, then sure, the authorities can ban you and legal action can be taken too. But something outside of that is personal and I don't think your job is a 24 hour one. That's why I am also against workplace drug and medical checkups, I just don't think it should be any of their business. If you are doing your job, then that is enough. If you hit your wife and she wants to sue you and divorce you, then that is cool too. I hate the media and how they try to make stories about nothing and this is another of those. That one about the racist team owner was another non-story. Mainstream media is beyond pathetic.

I don't think anybody has the right to hit any other person. We can say things heatedly, but when it comes down to it, unless somebody tries to attack you, then you should never lay a finger on another person. Hitting somebody else is the ultimate sign of weakness and loss of control. Knocking your wife out is one of the worst things you can do, but the result of that is up to the wife to decide. It should have nothing to do with your boss. I don't see how they are connected....unless the wife is also the boss perhaps?

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We want to be so damn technical about things, we lose the humanity of it all. Yeah... so it's up to the law-enforcement authorities to do something about incidents like Ray Rice's KO-ing of his wife. The NFL should stay out of things, unless it includes on-the-field incidents. That's all nice and sweet, but.....


BULLSHIT. Goodell first of all was big enough to admit that the 2-game suspension first handed out to Rice was inadequate, in the face of all the criticism he and the NFL received. The NFL does not operate in a vacuum. It caters to fans... many of the very young and impressionable variety. How many young boys out there would see that play out like it did at first... watch graphic videos of Rice knocking out his then-fiancée... and get a slap on the wrist from the league. Worst yet.... see the guy welcomed back with open arms by his team and his fans.


Anyone can make a mistake. But Rice's mistake was huge. Some here will joke around that he should've used an open hand... or he should've just jabbed instead of throwing a hook. But is it really that funny? How must the woman's family feel? How about the real problem of spousal abuse? Trying to make up ground and working to resolve a very real problem... how about those people?


I'm gonna say it again. Goodell earns whatever money they pay him. He's got to deal with the media circuses surrounding every time a player takes a dump in the wrong place. He gets second-guessed left and right. Too lenient... too strong.


The NFL is not your typical workplace... so quit trying to draw parallels. Professional athletes are entertainers. They get paid ridiculous amounts of money to play a game... and all we ask in return is that they refrain from being wife-beaters, drug-addicts, or habitual law-breakers. What a tough job!


Will the NFL get every decision right? Of course not. But they've shown the balls to go back and reverse their field when they feel they've gotten it wrong. It's the most human and thoughtful thing to do.

Yeah, I see your point. It's not that difficult to restrain yourself from knocking out your wife.

At the end of the day, a company has the right to terminate an employee if they are engaging or have engaged in activity that would cast the company in a negative light. The NFL doesn't want people thinking of murderers and woman beaters when it thinks of football players, and I think his termination was just their way of undoing the bad press they got for only suspending him 2 games.

I've been in the same situation as Rice though, and I'm sure most guys probably have, where you have a woman antagonize you and antagonize you, even start attacking you, and you see red and want more than anything in the world to hit her in that second. But I think in any civilized person, there should be some barrier in your head that won't let you do it. For a guy like Ray Rice to hit her so hard to knock her out, or a guy like Chris Brown to do a prolonged beating on Rihana... that's just savage, criminal behaviour.

The following is the truth....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlvvCYUDHrQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsq1bmVaR3Y


The problem is women WILL push you to the brink and then complain about you "shutting down" ...."Well he just won't talk to me, he just shuts down" etc....it's difficult to be the calm one, it's difficult to keep your emotions in check and men especially athletes use emotion to supplement motivation in their sports, so it's not surprising that Ray Rice to wind up doing that but it doesn't make it acceptable.

Jay-Z handled a similar situation with his sister in-law MUUUUUCH better

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

I've been in the same situation as Rice though, and I'm sure most guys probably have, where you have a woman antagonize you and antagonize you, even start attacking you, and you see red and want more than anything in the world to hit her in that second. But I think in any civilized person, there should be some barrier in your head that won't let you do it. For a guy like Ray Rice to hit her so hard to knock her out, or a guy like Chris Brown to do a prolonged beating on Rihana... that's just savage, criminal behaviour.

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Nothing annoys me more than the moronic saying a man should never hit a women. I agree with a man should never hit a women for no reason. Any man that does that is a coward. But if the women is stupid enough to actually hit first than she should be brave enough to take what comes in return. They don't want to get hit than don't hit. It's that simple. My mom never hit me growing up. So what the fuck makes any female think she can? The lack of common sense just boggles the mind

I've watched that video a few times and I can't quite tell who instigates the physical altercation. Right before she gets ko'd she is charging him and swinging. I think it is important to differentiate between a spouse that beats their spouse and when two people get in a fight. A person that regularly intimidates and physically assaults their spouse to me is different than what happens when a married couple has an argument that escalates to violence. We wouldn't even be talking about this if the roles were reversed. If this was Serena Williams instead of Rice nothing would happen. I don't antagonize people that can beat me within an inch of my life. Men shouldn't use their often natural advantage of strength and size against women but women should understand that there is a line and once they cross it they have stepped into a man's world. Regardless, Ray Rice isn't entitled to his employment. From a PR perspective, I think the Ravens and the NFL have done the right thing.

For sure she was antagonizing him, I believe she started the physical with a slap to his face outside the elevator. Wasn't a hard slap by any means but when someone slaps you in the face and walks away nonchalantly, it's going to fire you up.

When you're with a girl for long enough, you get to know how she deals with things (fights, pressure, not getting her way, stress, ect). There are women who will antagonize you and get off on conflict and pushing your buttons until you see red, and I think it's a responsibility to cut someone like that off. In this age of "anti-victim blaming" nobody wants to talk about the antagonist or what role the victim might have played in their assault. People (regardless of gender/race/whatever) need to keep their hands off of each other.

I walked in on my old man beating mom around one time. Had it not been for a stuck jacked up lever on his Marlin and a terrified older sister I would have been a bastard before 12. Easily in that moment. You don't Frazier the fuck outta people you love. This guy is a professional athlete with 300lb men talking shit and antagonizing him on a weekly basis. You gotta keep your head correct and sort out your major malfunctions.

The police are saying that the NFL saw the full video 5 months ago when it happened, so they got caught with their pants down again.

Okaaaaayyyyy....... so this has taken a turn into the ridiculous.




Let's recap.


First video (outside elevator) comes out, and the NFL (Goodell) responds by suspending Rice for two games. He catches hell from all sectors of society.... goes on TV publicly saying he got it wrong, and passes stricter domestic violence rules whereby a first offense is punishable by a 6-game suspension, and a second offense carries a lifetime ban. It doesn't apply to Rice, 'cause he's already been given his two-game suspension.


Second video comes out, released by TMZ Sports... and immediately the Baltimore Ravens release Ray Rice. The NFL follows suit by suspending Rice indefinitely. So he's gone.


But hold on! NOW..... the head of the National Organization for Women is calling on Goodell to RESIGN, based on the claim that he must've seen the video before, and/or the NFL didn't do all that was in their power to obtain the second video. They're investigating whether the NFL had the video already and have lied about having seen it.


Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?


When is this circus going to stop?? The offender is banished from football. The commissioner admitted he handled the situation wrong, and changed its rules. The message is now clear. The NFL will not tolerate domestic abuse among its players. So leave the situation the fuck alone. Why continue the witch hunt?


Goodell, while not perfect, has done a lot of good things for the sport of football. He's hands-on, and is focused on maintaining the integrity and popularity of the sport. What possible benefit will we get now by yielding to some misdirected wench and forcing out someone who has done a good job for the game? What IS Goodell's job, after all? Is it ruling over a sport, guarding its rules and principles and making it better? Or is it catering to every special interest group in society and every whim from a committee head with an agenda?


If this ends in a Goodell resignation, we're really in a world of shit.

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Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

I've watched that video a few times and I can't quite tell who instigates the physical altercation. Right before she gets ko'd she is charging him and swinging. I think it is important to differentiate between a spouse that beats their spouse and when two people get in a fight. A person that regularly intimidates and physically assaults their spouse to me is different than what happens when a married couple has an argument that escalates to violence. We wouldn't even be talking about this if the roles were reversed. If this was Serena Williams instead of Rice nothing would happen. I don't antagonize people that can beat me within an inch of my life. Men shouldn't use their often natural advantage of strength and size against women but women should understand that there is a line and once they cross it they have stepped into a man's world. Regardless, Ray Rice isn't entitled to his employment. From a PR perspective, I think the Ravens and the NFL have done the right thing.

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I think it's been established the video shows Rice spit on her face both outside and inside the elevator. After the 2nd time, she charges forward, and gets KO'ed. I doubt she was going to hurt Rice very much when she came forward. I also think he could've restrained her using one hand and very little force.


She swung at Rice so she deserved to get savagely knocked out?
No wonder this world is going down the shit hole.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

She swung at Rice so she deserved to get savagely knocked out?
No wonder this world is going down the shit hole.

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Did I say that?