Had a good run, made a few quid, less easy for future promoters pimps, no need to do trash talk with Irish Pikeys etc., you work it outQuote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
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Had a good run, made a few quid, less easy for future promoters pimps, no need to do trash talk with Irish Pikeys etc., you work it outQuote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
To the people saying Vlad has to Knock Fury out to win> err Bollox. He just has to win like in any other heavyweight rematch. If he out boxes Fury he wins. Manchester aint Munich.
I think Wlad has to win by KO, but simply because of the styles and what I saw in the first fight. Fury will be busier than Wlad who has always had to pace himself very, very carefully because of stamina issues. Fury will win rounds just by being more active. The Fury size and awkwardness just seems all wrong for Wlad. He has to let his hands go and try and score a stoppage, but it will leave him open and potentially hurt himself or at least winded.
I struggle to see Wlad outboxing Fury on a consistent basis.
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Originally Posted by rossAnd who was that down to?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44It was as simple as thisQuote:
Originally Posted by DouglasQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
Wasnt just Tysons size or Wach would also have beaten Wlad;D
yeah it was down to fury, he did very well
my point is tho, its a sad state of affairs that the way to beat the long reigning champion is to stop him holding
coz really that's what fury did, avoid the clinch, its not like he landed lots of punches
again tho im not knocking fury, he did absolutely the right thing, the ref and the judges wouldn't have stopped wlad holding or punished him for it so fury had no choice, it was a great game plan
He may not have landed alot but who does against Wlad? He landed more than anyone else including Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by rossAnd who was that down to?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44It was as simple as thisQuote:
Originally Posted by DouglasQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
Wasnt just Tysons size or Wach would also have beaten Wlad;D
yeah it was down to fury, he did very well
my point is tho, its a sad state of affairs that the way to beat the long reigning champion is to stop him holding
coz really that's what fury did, avoid the clinch, its not like he landed lots of punches
again tho im not knocking fury, he did absolutely the right thing, the ref and the judges wouldn't have stopped wlad holding or punished him for it so fury had no choice, it was a great game plan
Wlad is just very good, Fury is better.
wlad is the worst "significant" champion at any weight in history
Why? Because his style isnt attractive?
Count how many undefeated fiters he beat, how many fighters he stopped, not many heard the final bell.
no because his style was based on holding
take away the holding he would have lost his title many times
holding is against the rules, he was allowed to hold because of the money he generated
that doesn't take any thing away from fury, in fact it adds to his achievement, fury was able to beat a long standing champion who had been allowed to cheat ridiculously for many years
It might just be me but Ross sounds like he is still arguing with people when they are actually agreeing with him.
no mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes! ;D:master::bananasex::cheerleader:Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Lack of proper training. Lack of real ambition. Was not hungry enough that night he lost to Fury. Did not look as though he wanted to be there. No inspiration and he looked like he would rather go running pushing a baby carriage. Fury got into his head and his next training camp should be somewhere like Lou Costello said in one of his movies, "I'll move so far away that it'll cost twenty five dollars just to send a post card. Wlad didn't look hard and he hesitated more than some guy who didn't want to go to his own wedding and many of us can relate to that. Those who take no chances get no rewards.
;DDo I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerano mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes! ;D:master::bananasex::cheerleader:Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
There you go again.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross;DDo I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerano mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes! ;D:master::bananasex::cheerleader:Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Define 'most people'Quote:
Originally Posted by ross;DDo I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerano mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes! ;D:master::bananasex::cheerleader:Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Journalists who other people pay to read their opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisDefine 'most people'Quote:
Originally Posted by ross;DDo I really need to big up a fighter who is on most peoples top ten all time greatest heavies?;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnerano mate, what he's TRYING to do is big up Wlad, because that somehow makes Tyson even more amazing in his eyes! ;D:master::bananasex::cheerleader:Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman