Re: Miranda: "This Time I'm Knocking Abraham Out"
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That picture is from Little Britain Legion, its comedy sketch show in the UK.
I wonder if it is shown on the BBC here in the States? Sounds pretty funny.
I formally apologize to hattonthehammer; I should have realized you were a completely different fag; not the one in your profile. Very sorry:eek:
JK newbie; only funning with you:D
Its alright but im not really into that kind of comedy, i like some older British shows like Minder, Only Fools And Horses, Auf Wiendersehen Pet etc.
Hey Ice you ever seen One Foot In The Grave with Victor Meldrew ;D that is a classic. I'm doing sitcoms for my A Level Media Studies, I'm doing phoenix nights.
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I would like to give my two cents regarding Clottey vs Corrales, you may or may not know this, but Corrales for his whole career was around Super Featherweight, Lightweight. He only lost to great fighters at those weight classes like Castillo, Mayweather, Casamayor, all fantastic boxers in different ways. I think its little unfair to Corrales bringing up his loss to Clottey, Corrales moved up two weight classes to fight Clottey, and Clottey is very good fighter his only two losses were to Carlos Baldomir, and he was beating Baldomir clearly until he was DQ, and his other loss was too one of the best Welterweight's in recent years Antonio Margarito, and he was doing well in his fight with Margarito until he broke his hand, but Margarito also had problems before the fight so i will be fair there. But Clottey is a solid fighter and Corrales moving up two weight classes and going the distance with Clottey says a lot about Corrales heart, will.
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I wonder if it is shown on the BBC here in the States? Sounds pretty funny.
I formally apologize to hattonthehammer; I should have realized you were a completely different fag; not the one in your profile. Very sorry:eek:
JK newbie; only funning with you:D
Its alright but im not really into that kind of comedy, i like some older British shows like Minder, Only Fools And Horses, Auf Wiendersehen Pet etc.
Hey Ice you ever seen One Foot In The Grave with Victor Meldrew ;D that is a classic. I'm doing sitcoms for my A Level Media Studies, I'm doing phoenix nights.
Only a few episodes years ago.
Re: Miranda: "This Time I'm Knocking Abraham Out"
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I would like to give my two cents regarding Clottey vs Corrales, you may or may not know this, but Corrales for his whole career was around Super Featherweight, Lightweight. He only lost to great fighters at those weight classes like Castillo, Mayweather, Casamayor, all fantastic boxers in different ways. I think its little unfair to Corrales bringing up his loss to Clottey, Corrales moved up two weight classes to fight Clottey, and Clottey is very good fighter his only two losses were to Carlos Baldomir, and he was beating Baldomir clearly until he was DQ, and his other loss was too one of the best Welterweight's in recent years Antonio Margarito, and he was doing well in his fight with Margarito until he broke his hand, but Margarito also had problems before the fight so i will be fair there. But Clottey is a solid fighter and Corrales moving up two weight classes and going the distance with Clottey says a lot about Corrales heart, will.
hey I completely agreeing with you. I wasn't taking anything away from Diego at all, It was just too big of a step. Also this could come back to praising Margarito somehow?? :)
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I would like to give my two cents regarding Clottey vs Corrales, you may or may not know this, but Corrales for his whole career was around Super Featherweight, Lightweight. He only lost to great fighters at those weight classes like Castillo, Mayweather, Casamayor, all fantastic boxers in different ways. I think its little unfair to Corrales bringing up his loss to Clottey, Corrales moved up two weight classes to fight Clottey, and Clottey is very good fighter his only two losses were to Carlos Baldomir, and he was beating Baldomir clearly until he was DQ, and his other loss was too one of the best Welterweight's in recent years Antonio Margarito, and he was doing well in his fight with Margarito until he broke his hand, but Margarito also had problems before the fight so i will be fair there. But Clottey is a solid fighter and Corrales moving up two weight classes and going the distance with Clottey says a lot about Corrales heart, will.
Also dont forget that Clottey rehydrated to 160... That was bad news for Coralles from the get go:-\
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I would like to give my two cents regarding Clottey vs Corrales, you may or may not know this, but Corrales for his whole career was around Super Featherweight, Lightweight. He only lost to great fighters at those weight classes like Castillo, Mayweather, Casamayor, all fantastic boxers in different ways. I think its little unfair to Corrales bringing up his loss to Clottey, Corrales moved up two weight classes to fight Clottey, and Clottey is very good fighter his only two losses were to Carlos Baldomir, and he was beating Baldomir clearly until he was DQ, and his other loss was too one of the best Welterweight's in recent years Antonio Margarito, and he was doing well in his fight with Margarito until he broke his hand, but Margarito also had problems before the fight so i will be fair there. But Clottey is a solid fighter and Corrales moving up two weight classes and going the distance with Clottey says a lot about Corrales heart, will.
who is will?
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I would like to give my two cents regarding Clottey vs Corrales, you may or may not know this, but Corrales for his whole career was around Super Featherweight, Lightweight. He only lost to great fighters at those weight classes like Castillo, Mayweather, Casamayor, all fantastic boxers in different ways. I think its little unfair to Corrales bringing up his loss to Clottey, Corrales moved up two weight classes to fight Clottey, and Clottey is very good fighter his only two losses were to Carlos Baldomir, and he was beating Baldomir clearly until he was DQ, and his other loss was too one of the best Welterweight's in recent years Antonio Margarito, and he was doing well in his fight with Margarito until he broke his hand, but Margarito also had problems before the fight so i will be fair there. But Clottey is a solid fighter and Corrales moving up two weight classes and going the distance with Clottey says a lot about Corrales heart, will.
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agree with a lot of what you say mate, but...
corrales wasnt ordered to fight clottey, nobody forced him to take the fight on at a different weight level
And even so as shown many times in the past great fighters can adapt at different weight levels, a true mark of a champion is someone who can move up 1-2 weights and win a world title.
Nobody is disrespecting the great man and i for one dearly miss diego and the spirited performances he gave every time he was in the ring. But to claim that a fighter can have a contest scratched from his record just because it wasnt at his ideal weight is absurd.
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Thats not the argument here.... Now that stuff has cooled down my Question is How can you use that fight as an example of how you think Hatton would breeze thru Coralles....
I got news for you Clottey whips Hattons ass 7 days a week and 2x on Sunday there is not a snowballs chance in Hell Hatton beats Joshua Clottey;)
I understand how great fighters move up weight classes and win titles but they dont usually jump 2 weightclasses in one shot to do it and to say Coralles lost to a guy you dont remembers name is a little condescending and denigrateing when everyone knows what kind of threat Joshua Clottey is..
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Keep this one on topic guys without all the sh1t
Cheers
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1000 milligrams of :chillpill: pill, 3x a day.
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I'm wondering if there's estrogen being pumped through the screens in some new Saddo popunder?????
Guys are arguing like biatches and getting all emo.......
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pK4bLMd0avU
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I would like to give my two cents regarding Clottey vs Corrales, you may or may not know this, but Corrales for his whole career was around Super Featherweight, Lightweight. He only lost to great fighters at those weight classes like Castillo, Mayweather, Casamayor, all fantastic boxers in different ways. I think its little unfair to Corrales bringing up his loss to Clottey, Corrales moved up two weight classes to fight Clottey, and Clottey is very good fighter his only two losses were to Carlos Baldomir, and he was beating Baldomir clearly until he was DQ, and his other loss was too one of the best Welterweight's in recent years Antonio Margarito, and he was doing well in his fight with Margarito until he broke his hand, but Margarito also had problems before the fight so i will be fair there. But Clottey is a solid fighter and Corrales moving up two weight classes and going the distance with Clottey says a lot about Corrales heart, will.
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agree with a lot of what you say mate, but...
corrales wasnt ordered to fight clottey, nobody forced him to take the fight on at a different weight level
And even so as shown many times in the past great fighters can adapt at different weight levels,
a true mark of a champion is someone who can move up 1-2 weights and win a world title.
Nobody is disrespecting the great man and i for one dearly miss diego and the spirited performances he gave every time he was in the ring.
But to claim that a fighter can have a contest scratched from his record just because it wasnt at his ideal weight is absurd.
I find that quite funny, coming from a Hatton fan. But aside from that, perhaps you don't realize exactly how little Corrales had left as a fighter at the point he fought Clottey. He didn't choose to fight at 147 because he wanted to, or because it had ever suited him in the past, it was because his body was too old to keep cutting weight. Corrales always had an enormous frame for a lightweight, without the proper metabolism to be able to cut weight effectively there's no way he could have fought even at 140. I suppose you can't just scratch thte bout entirely, but to consider it any reflection of how Corrales would have done against any other opponent at a lower weight, in his prime, is certainly not a fair point. I mean half of you Hatton fans write off his performance against Collazo due to him moving up 7 pounds in his prime... But when Chico moves up 17 lbs after he's already a shell of himself, that's supposed to carry weight???? Please.
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who is will?
agree with a lot of what you say mate, but...
corrales wasnt ordered to fight clottey, nobody forced him to take the fight on at a different weight level
And even so as shown many times in the past great fighters can adapt at different weight levels,
a true mark of a champion is someone who can move up 1-2 weights and win a world title.
Nobody is disrespecting the great man and i for one dearly miss diego and the spirited performances he gave every time he was in the ring.
But to claim that a fighter can have a contest scratched from his record just because it wasnt at his ideal weight is absurd.
I find that quite funny, coming from a Hatton fan. But aside from that, perhaps you don't realize exactly how little Corrales had left as a fighter at the point he fought Clottey. He didn't choose to fight at 147 because he wanted to, or because it had ever suited him in the past, it was because his body was too old to keep cutting weight. Corrales always had an enormous frame for a lightweight, without the proper metabolism to be able to cut weight effectively there's no way he could have fought even at 140. I suppose you can't just scratch thte bout entirely, but to consider it any reflection of how Corrales would have done against any other opponent at a lower weight, in his prime, is certainly not a fair point. I mean half of you Hatton fans write off his performance against Collazo due to him moving up 7 pounds in his prime... But when Chico moves up 17 lbs after he's already a shell of himself, that's supposed to carry weight???? Please.
not at all. i was the biggest hatton critic at the time and was furious that ricky had sold his fans short just to add "2 weight world champion" onto his CV.
I also came out if it believing that would be the last ever time we would see ricky fight at 147 and that he had hopefully learnt a harsh lesson about taking on too many risks.
But these are boxers, they live and die by their own decisons/mistakes. Nobody made diego take the fight on.
To keep using the same old hatton argument is ridiculous. Yes youve clearly worked out by my username im a big ricky fan and have the upmost respect for the fella inside and outside the ring.
But i was a huge boxing fan long before ricky came along as i will be when he is retired.
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who is will?
agree with a lot of what you say mate, but...
corrales wasnt ordered to fight clottey, nobody forced him to take the fight on at a different weight level
And even so as shown many times in the past great fighters can adapt at different weight levels,
a true mark of a champion is someone who can move up 1-2 weights and win a world title.
Nobody is disrespecting the great man and i for one dearly miss diego and the spirited performances he gave every time he was in the ring.
But to claim that a fighter can have a contest scratched from his record just because it wasnt at his ideal weight is absurd.
I find that quite funny, coming from a Hatton fan. But aside from that, perhaps you don't realize exactly how little Corrales had left as a fighter at the point he fought Clottey. He didn't choose to fight at 147 because he wanted to, or because it had ever suited him in the past, it was because his body was too old to keep cutting weight. Corrales always had an enormous frame for a lightweight, without the proper metabolism to be able to cut weight effectively there's no way he could have fought even at 140. I suppose you can't just scratch thte bout entirely, but to consider it any reflection of how Corrales would have done against any other opponent at a lower weight, in his prime, is certainly not a fair point. I mean half of you Hatton fans write off his performance against Collazo due to him moving up 7 pounds in his prime... But when Chico moves up 17 lbs after he's already a shell of himself, that's supposed to carry weight???? Please.
If you consult the audio on the Hatton Lazcano audio thread you will hear Ricky himself speak of the loss to Floyd.
Never once does he use the weight as the reason for his loss.