Yeah, I post there, ESB, etc...
This board seems pretty good so far with smart and reasonable posters, so that means I probably won't be trolling like a fool.
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Dark Lord is Joe Calzaghe's greatest fan , that is a myth , im sorry to tell you guys. ;D
Roy Jones is still a viable contender at 175 :-X
If he was a quitter he wouldn't have kept fighting vs Lewis after he was cut so bad.
vs Byrd he hurt his shoulder early in the fight and just couldn't continue...if you can't defend yourself (Vitali defends with his offense) then you shouldn't just let yourself get blasted for the remainder of the fight vs anyone no matter how soft they hit. Chris Byrd could hurt guys if he hit them enough
ESB sucks.....thinking Valuev and Audley Harrison would beat Wladimir.....they are fucking retards
Danny Williams carried on with one arm and it was early in the fight, why didn't Vitali try and gut it out for another 9 minutes ?? if i remember right it was only 9 minutes left can't exactly remember though, but he was well ahead on points, and its not like Byrd is going to KO Vitali is it ??
No, but Danny Williams didn't have his whole career infront of him did he? DW ain't exactly the smartest fighter out there. Sometimes it's better to live to fight another day which is what he did....not necessarily quitting...the guy just couldn't go on...everyone knows how injury prone he is if he feels he can't continue then hell he can't continue he knows better than anyone else.
Holyfield continued with a bum shoulder and look where it got him....it got his license taken away from him for a long period of time
Buddy Mgirts is the best train in sport.
Not
Al check your PM's.
Bernard Hopkins, after injuring his shoulder in the Echols fight, won the fight one handed.
That Tyson was afraid to fight Foreman in the 1990's.
this could of been a good thread, yet every post i have seen while skimming thorugh it has been pilled with fan boys and hatters trying to dismiss any chance of a fighter they hate doing somethign good, or a fighter they love havening something done to them
Serious if you are goign to cntest something back the fucking thing up you clowns
Preme I thought it was a fun thread. What is with the hostility?
kid diamond beat miguel huerta
tyson was 12 190 lds. of muscle
hall of famers sons are the next big things
joel casayamor a boring fighter
I think it is a good idea for the rest of us to run anything we are going to post past PREME , so we dont offend him , hes a sensitive fragile person or so it would seem.
Tommy Hearns had no chin and couldn't box
Herol Graham was an oft-avoided defensive wizard, the only reason he never won a title is because nobody good would fight him.
Roy Jones Jnr fought and defeated the best fighters in three different weight classes.
Ray Leonard defeated Marvin Hagler (!)
Muhammad Ali was the best heavyweight in the world from 1974 onwards.
Gene Tunney only beat Jack Dempsey because of the long count.
The Jack Johnson / Stanley Ketchell fight was not fixed.
VD automatically roots for British fighters once he finds out where they come from.
I get the chin thing but do that many people say Hearns couldn't box?
No, I guess not, but people forget that he was the only man to completely outbox the great Ray leonard in his prime. People think of him more as a one-hit puncher only.
That Antonio Tarver's glove hit the canvas against Hopkins.
1) Joe Louis was ripped off from most of his money
Sure, he wasn’t as rich as he should have been, but he wasn’t exactly destitute and living off the streets. You have to judge it in comparison to most black people in 1930’s, 40’s, 50’s America then you have to say he was well off in comparison.
2) Cuban’s are the baddest, roughest fighters out there and if they turned pro the boxing landscape would change
Erm, not really. Remember Jose Luis Gonzalez ? He was as decorated a Cuban as any, yet in the pro arena, he was exposed by Bowe who was then exposed by Golota who then exposed by Lewis. I know I should not base my myth on one example, but even Teofilo Stevenson or Felix Savon would not have lasted in the pro arena. Yeah they will most likely clean up in the Olympics in a few months time but in the pro arena with the 3 minute rounds, more emphasis on power, stamina, aggression and chin rather than the pitter-patter scoring system in the amateurs then I’m not sure they would make it but I could be wrong and with Castro stepping down maybe more will try their hand
3) Black fighters don’t cut as easy
I think people have been watching too many Henry Cooper/Ali and Lewis/ Klitschko clips with this one. In fact some of the worst cuts I have seen have come from black fighters
4) Carlos Monzon
You tube him and watch him and to me I don’t get the big thing about. The most overrated fighter of all time
5) It was a racist conspiracy that denied Larry Holmes the chance to break Marciano's 49-0 record when he was beaten by Spinks
He beat you twice Larry (TWICE) get over it, and I didn’t even rate Spinks that highly. I think Holmes should be thankful that he was fighting in an era of mediocrity and besides Tyson put him well and truly in his place.
6) Frank Bruno could not fight
Bruno was beaten 4 times by a peak Tyson, Lewis, Witherspoon and Bonecrusher, that is a SERIOUS array of boxing talent. Any fighter of ANY era would have struggled to fight all four of the above fighters and still keep their ‘O’ intact. Besides imagine if a 26 year old Frank Bruno was around today ?
And finally
7) Rocky 1 was a great movie
No way. I know it got best film at the oscars in 76 but Rocky 3 and 4 were the best, Clubber Lang (AKA Mr T) "I pidde da foo" and Ivan Drago “If he dies…..he dies" classic
1) Joe Louis was ripped off from most of his money
Sure, he wasn’t as rich as he should have been, but he wasn’t exactly destitute and living off the streets. You have to judge it in comparison to most black people in 1930’s, 40’s, 50’s America then you have to say he was well off in comparison.
It was the 60's 70's and 80's Joe that people feel sorry for, the champ was forced to live as a nightclub greeter to fuel his coke habit and live and empty life.
2) Cuban’s are the baddest, roughest fighters out there and if they turned pro the boxing landscape would change
Erm, not really. Remember Jose Luis Gonzalez ? He was as decorated a Cuban as any, yet in the pro arena, he was exposed by Bowe who was then exposed by Golota who then exposed by Lewis. I know I should not base my myth on one example, but even Teofilo Stevenson or Felix Savon would not have lasted in the pro arena. Yeah they will most likely clean up in the Olympics in a few months time but in the pro arena with the 3 minute rounds, more emphasis on power, stamina, aggression and chin rather than the pitter-patter scoring system in the amateurs then I’m not sure they would make it but I could be wrong and with Castro stepping down maybe more will try their hand
I've never heard of Cubans being called rough or bad, but In truth no other nation has produced such a steady stream of skillful amateurs as Cuba.
Sure Russia is No.1 right now, but they don't have the history Cuba do.
3) Black fighters don’t cut as easy
I think people have been watching too many Henry Cooper/Ali and Lewis/ Klitschko clips with this one. In fact some of the worst cuts I have seen have come from black fighters
True.
4) Carlos Monzon
You tube him and watch him and to me I don’t get the big thing about. The most overrated fighter of all time
This point is the reason I quoted you.
Monzon was a force of nature!
Look at what he did to Nino!
5) It was a racist conspiracy that denied Larry Holmes the chance to break Marciano's 49-0 record when he was beaten by Spinks
He beat you twice Larry (TWICE) get over it, and I didn’t even rate Spinks that highly. I think Holmes should be thankful that he was fighting in an era of mediocrity and besides Tyson put him well and truly in his place.
True.
6) Frank Bruno could not fight
Bruno was beaten 4 times by a peak Tyson, Lewis, Witherspoon and Bonecrusher, that is a SERIOUS array of boxing talent. Any fighter of ANY era would have struggled to fight all four of the above fighters and still keep their ‘O’ intact. Besides imagine if a 26 year old Frank Bruno was around today ?
Bruno could box, not fight.
When keping the fight at his distance and jab-crossing frank could let go bombs.
But fighting, really fighting at close range, he could be taken out by many. Great guy Frank Bruno.
And finally
7) Rocky 1 was a great movie
No way. I know it got best film at the oscars in 76 but Rocky 3 and 4 were the best, Clubber Lang (AKA Mr T) "I pidde da foo" and Ivan Drago “If he dies…..he dies" classic[/quote]
Rocky 1 was a far superior movie
I'm sorry but Stevenson and Savon would have done very well in the pros.
Rocky 3 and 4 were enjoyable cartoons,that just happened to have live actors
I may not think it was a racist conspiracy,but Holmes got hosed against Spinks
castillo beat mayweather in their first fight
Unless your gay for lederman it was obviously clear at the time and when watching the fight again and again that mayweather won it by at least 2 clear rounds!!