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Fuck Sides man! What we need is a little solidarity around here.
Thought i'd humble you;D
I edited your post in my "baby mod" ways as you put it because you were under the impression that rideculing a brain damaged fighter was funny;)
The rest of what you have just posted is as i expected from a man who see's the truth being told to him and he simply doesn't like it.
Your pathetic answering of my post has proved your a coward who when under pressure from someone he simply can't bully just crumbles and melts away like a scared little boy.
Like i said you DO have the knowledge of a potential mod but your attitude will get you no where...be it here or anywhere in your life.
Wise up little boy and be a man.
Nuff said
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
ya bwoys ain't so STAUNCH now are they VD...they are even doubting you now and i get the feeling they are seeing a weakness in your front (and it is just a front you put about)..they don't seem to be getting your back?
Wonder why?
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Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
ya bwoys ain't so STAUNCH now are they VD...they are even doubting you now and i get the feeling they are seeing a weakness in your front (and it is just a front you put about)..they don't seem to be getting your back?
Wonder why?
That was supposed to be a joke from the movie Reservoir Dogs. It is a Steve Buscemi qoute. In no way is it demonstrative of things between VD and I.
Personally, I think Calzaghe has been pretty sheltered......but I was really impressed with the Kessler win. Smash I think you get carried away with British boxers. Which is fine, since you live there.....but it blocks the objectivity needed for a sound post.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxerQuote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
ya bwoys ain't so STAUNCH now are they VD...they are even doubting you now and i get the feeling they are seeing a weakness in your front (and it is just a front you put about)..they don't seem to be getting your back?
Wonder why?
That was supposed to be a joke from the movie Reservoir Dogs. It is a Steve Buscemi qoute. In no way is it demonstrative of things between VD and I.
Personally, I think Calzaghe has been pretty sheltered......but I was really impressed with the Kessler win. Smash I think you get carried away with British boxers. Which is fine, since you live there.....but it blocks the objectivity needed for a sound post.
Not at all i'm the first to admit if a UK fighter is hype or overated..JC simply is none of them.
You a sheep or a wolf?
;)
Pavlik moves his front foot well, that could be the difference ;D.
Seriously what fukk you expect me to say? Thank you for the life story that I can hear and have heard from my brother and uncles countless times? Thank you for telling me things I already been through? Is that what you wanted? A thank you? Come on now. I don't care if you did do 5 more years than me. You ain't no better than me. Maybe in your head. But that's it. Your a grown man calling a 28 year old a kid on the internet. Why? Cuz you don't like his posting his style? Or maybe it's cuz he critizies your favorite fighters? No, no. That's not it either. What really gets to you is that there's a lot of truth in what he says. And that's what gets to you. Yeah that's it. I said Con had no chin (which is true) and you automatically got defensive and edited my post. Like I told you before. Fighters are always going to get bad mouthed. Even the ones you like. Toughen up and deal with it. You can tell all the stories you want. You can tell me what you think of me all you want. Blah, blah, blah. You can't cover up the problem. Me and you both know what it isQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup
LOL. It's funny how one always tries to direct there own personal fears on to somebody else. You seriously think I wasn't going to pick on that?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
ya bwoys ain't so STAUNCH now are they VD...they are even doubting you now and i get the feeling they are seeing a weakness in your front (and it is just a front you put about)..they don't seem to be getting your back?
Wonder why?
VD i edited your post because you tried to have a giggle regarding a brain damaged fighter (v bad taste) and nothing to do with khan at all:confused: when have i said i went to prison lol?
You need to read what i said carefully then try and better yourself ;)
Anyway your simply boring me now:rolleyes:
Let's all just have a nice time out people. Everybody go to the fridge and get a beer. :)
We're going to be arguing the same stuff endlessly before during and after the Calzaghe-Jones fight so let's at least wait till after the fight before we all start attacking each other. :)
You say one thing. I say another. There is no true answer any more. Some how the post just disappeared. Damn I wonder why?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Bottom line is this. Take it anyway you want. Ingle was hurt in the Ring. I have never and will never make fun of a fighter who's suffered that fate. The post was clearly directed at your boy A Mere Con. Now if it went over your head and you couldn't pick up on that. That's not my problem.
It's yours
Question to SMASHUP ?
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe doesnt slap ? or he doesnt smother his own punches and throw them incorrectly ?
My second point is Chris Eubank was never a big puncher at top level ,he was fed the same crap by the WBO as Calzaghe has been , he spent his entire career throwin looping punches like he was bowling at cricket.
i also agree with ICB , Calzaghe has a good chin , but he has never been in with many guys who can box and punch , Kessler is a strong puncher , Lacy has been exposed as a fraud , fact it people will like Calzaghe , and people will hate him , that my friends is boxing.
PS. FUCK YOU CALZAGHE IM A HATER ;D
why tho ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
No
Read what i've posted before you ask questions with absolutely no meaning:rolleyes:
Baffles me that you hate your countrys finest sporstman and best ever fighter?
Smash what are you somking man dude you just say best fighter ever.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
meaning from the uk:rolleyes:
some of you need to read posts properly,better still use the "read" button;D
Im a big fan of Calzaghe.Yeah he might slap most of the time,but his hand speed,his chin,his work rate and his boxing stills are second to none.Not to mention his great right hand jab.He might not have the power anymore to K.O a boxer out but his tactics to change and adapt to win a fight is fantasic.Calzaghe has one of the best boxing brains as a fighter in the ring EVER!
Shame on you british fans not liking Calzaghe:rolleyes:
One thing i'll mention to the lovers and haters of Joe,is that if,"I hope",he fights Pavlik and loses he'll even generate more fans by going out with a BANG!
Luv u Joe!;D
Top thread ;D
It baffles me why some people right off Calzaghe against Pavlik. Calzaghe has proven time and time again that he simply wont be beat, can adapt during a fight, his punch power is practically zero but all the other tools are there.
Its the same old story....
X will do this to Calzaghe, Calzaghe cant do this, Calzaghe slaps ect ect. Each time Calzaghe flips the script.
Im not and never have been sold on Pavlik. He sparked Miranda, but then again old man Eastman almost sparked him a few round sooner, if he didnt have so many miles on the clock he would have. He beat reluctant fighter Jermaine Taylor twice, almost getting himself sparked out in the process.
Pavlik Calzaghe a 50/50 fight. A few years ago Calzaghe would have wiped the floor with him as he did Lacy........he still might.
I used to really like Pavlik but his lovers have turned me against him.
Come on Hopkins!!! I would love that boring old bastard to spark him clean out. ;D
I'm going the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
The whole Pavlik power thing is a bit much. Yes he hits hard but he's no julian Jackson. He gets the majority of his KO's through pressure, remarkably similar to Joe earlier on in his career. IMO Eubank has at least the same single punch power than Pavlik (probably more), his KO ratio is lower since he simply isn't a 100 punches a round pressure fighter.
Same goes for Mitchell, Brewer, Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins.
The only reason a Calzaghe-Pavlik fight may be competitive nowadays is joe's advancing years, and he HAS been slowing down recently. Simple reason is that come forward fighters are his bread and butter.
You know, that really works both ways!LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by DeanrwYou know, that really works both ways!LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I guess you guys are excited by your new hero.. like a kid with a new toy. ;D
I predict in two years time Pavlik will be the new Lacy. ;D
I asked you a simple question , do you think Calzaghe smothers his own work and slaps or not ?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
No
Read what i've posted before you ask questions with absolutely no meaning:rolleyes:
Baffles me that you hate your countrys finest sporstman and best ever fighter?
Also I'm English and Calzaghe is from Wales , and the UK is not a country , not that that is relevant to hating someone or not, finest sportsman ever ?? thats a matter of opinion lol
I HATE CALZAGHE GET OVER IT.
The biggest difference between Pavlik and Lacy, in regards to their punch (Pavlik is faster and steps sideways, and better defensively) is that Pavlik throws straight punches.. Lacy throws clubbing right hands that someone on Joe's level could see coming for a mile.. I'm not saying Pavlik is the quickest puncher, but when you watch his fights, notably from the recent fights, notice the first right hand that he drops on his opponent.. I remember rooting for Taylor, and as soon as he got hit with a right hand, he wasn't "stunned" as in physically stunned, but he was stunned mentally, he wasn't expecting it.. When you watch Lockett sit there and get hit with Kelly's right hand, he had the same response..
To be honest, I think that Pavlik mostly resembles Kessler, in regards of style.. and look what Calzaghe did to him.. Kessler had a few rally's but nothing more.. The HUGE difference between pavlik and kessler, is that Pavlik will be absolutely relentless the whole fight, while Kessler was a bit conservative early on, then he got frustrated and almost gave up towards the end it seemed..
Pavlik's chin is not even a factor in this fight so i don't know why anyone is talking about it.. If you think Joe could KO Pavlik then you've had a FEW too many.. The main factors will be CAN Pavlik connect with the right, and if so, HOW often..
The thing I see being the biggest factor is Calzaghe being able to close the gap where he likes to flurry with his quick shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33
I saw that he was able to do this quite well against the crafty Hopkins but hopkins was not throwing enough to keep him off. I think Kelly will be a ble to keep Joe at range and throw a straight right down the barrel when Joe tries to lunge in.
Pavlik can also fight well inside but I think that Kellys ability to keep Joe at range will dictate how this fight goes and I think once that triphammer drops a few times Joe will be somewhat leary which will play into Kelly's hands.
If this fight is fought at range it will be a win for kelly and probably a KO in between 10 and 12.
Kessler's success was on the backfoot in the earlier rounds, Calzaghe avoided all the 'straight' punches he threw while Kess was trying to come forward, which is why he got discouraged. When joe cut out the mistake of leaning in too much Kessler had very little succes until joe started trading in the final round.Quote:
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is a good thread hahaha and i folded the little prick in half without so much as the use of his fave weapon... the ":lolhaha:" smilie
All too easy Memph.......
I think he likes Violent gang "members" up his ass too (i mean theres enough of them from Saddos crawling about up there already) hense his "internet" gang (he must have got into that kinda practice in prison);D
#1 Pavlik is not my hero, but he is a fighter I respect. He takes on all comers. There should be many more like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster;DQuote:
Originally Posted by DeanrwYou know, that really works both ways!LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I guess you guys are excited by your new hero.. like a kid with a new toy. ;D
I predict in two years time Pavlik will be the new Lacy. ;D
#2 Joe has shown indications of preferring the safe route. On top of that he feeds complete and utter bullshit to the press in the hopes to promote his current fight he has lined up. Contradicts himself left and right in his quest to go out in, this is his own words mind you, a "Blaze Of Glory". The guy is a fruitcake plain and simple. I cannot believe I used to respect that turd.
Pavlik may very well lose soon, maybe even against Hopkins, but at least he is approaching his craft with old fashioned honor and dignity and willing to test himself.
pavlik and joe are two of boxing best fighters. i don't think either loses easily. i see a great fight
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Originally Posted by Deanrw#1 Pavlik is not my hero, but he is a fighter I respect. He takes on all comers. There should be many more like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
I guess you guys are excited by your new hero.. like a kid with a new toy. ;D
I predict in two years time Pavlik will be the new Lacy. ;D
#2 Joe has shown indications of preferring the safe route. On top of that he feeds complete and utter bullshit to the press in the hopes to promote his current fight he has lined up. Contradicts himself left and right in his quest to go out in, this is his own words mind you, a "Blaze Of Glory". The guy is a fruitcake plain and simple. I cannot believe I used to respect that turd.
Pavlik may very well lose soon, maybe even against Hopkins, but at least he is approaching his craft with old fashioned honor and dignity and willing to test himself.
Well played Dean. Smashup? I've rarely read your posts but you've come off as a douchbag in like two of the last threads I've read...
Look... Joe is a great champ... A HOFer in IMHO but do please remember what Pavlik is... A warrior. Joe claimed to be and.... I know... I know... Frank Warren was the reason he waited til the best men were past it... I know Hopkins ducked Joe... I know Jones ducked Joe....
I like joe but open your fuckin eyes,man! He allowed himself to get protected out of his legacy.... You think in 50 yrs people outside of Wales will preach his name? NO!
Ride his nuts into retirement cuz he doesn't have the sack to face kelly cuz he's afraid of ghosts!... Sorry, buddy
FACT!
Are you upset i crushed your leader?;D
Nah, man...Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
You're just deluded...
Kind of like me when I thought my New England Patriots could go over 21 game undefeated... I forgot what it was like to lose.
You're pitting your aging champ(who has fought with great merit) against a young champion who can keep his foot on the peddle for as long as Joe can... You're talking like he's already won and talking like an asshole at that...
Smashup... I'm fans of fighters but I don't grab onto their nuts like they spew milk... chill out and open your eyes and talk about HOW he'd beat Pavlik and not that it would just happen...
There is no leader here we all have our own opinions i don't care who it is if i disagree with someone, i'll debate with them no matter who it is. Most of Joe Calzaghe's best wins were on the downslide IMO, no one is doubting Joe Calzaghe is a class fighter but his record has some question marks for certain............Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
But he is also on the downslide IMO he isn't as fast, nor is his combination's as effective, plus his power has totally gone. I think Kelly Pavlik has a great chance against Joe Calzaghe, he is much more proven at world class level than Jeff Lacy was, who was struggling with mediocre fighters even before Joe Calzaghe fight.
Self-esteem issues, huh? :lolhaha: If you say it enough times you might convince yourself. It's obvious you can't edit my posts to your liking like you do in the other board. Sucks, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Agreed amd SERIOUSLY... I like Joe and as much as I hate his style... It's effective. Joes best wins ARE on the downslide od his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBThere is no leader here we all have our own opinions i don't care who it is if i disagree with someone, i'll debate with them no matter who it is. The fact is most of Joe Calzaghe's best wins were on the downslide IMO, no one is doubting Joe Calzaghe is a class fighter............Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
But he is also on the downslide IMO he isn't as fast, nor is his combinations as effective, plus his power has totally gone. I think Kelly Pavlik has a great chance against Joe Calzaghe, he is much more proven at world class level than Jeff Lacy was, who was even struggling with mediocre fighters even before Joe Calzaghe fight.
Nomatter... Joe has done fantasticly in the past two years.
I just do not enjoy the goating of nuthuggers.
Pav Calzag would be a great bout. I think that either has a chance... I've given oppinions in other threads but in the grand scheme it's a pick em fight.
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSelf-esteem issues, huh? :lolhaha: If you say it enough times you might convince yourself. It's obvious you can't edit my posts to your liking like you do in the other board. Sucks, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I never edited your post to suit my own needs, just edited something you posted which was bad taste...
Don't worry I'd NEVER stop the masses seeing what a proper prick you are;D
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Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSelf-esteem issues, huh? :lolhaha: If you say it enough times you might convince yourself. It's obvious you can't edit my posts to your liking like you do in the other board. Sucks, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I never edited your post to suit my own needs, just edited something you posted which was bad taste...
Don't worry I'd NEVER stop the masses seeing what a proper prick you are;D
Yeah, dude... you're solid:rolleyes:
Since I been here no mod has ever edited any of my posts. I don't think I ever seen anybodies post edited by a mod. Yet all of a sudden a baby mod does it cuz I criticized his favorite fighter. :LOLATYOU: No wonder that board is a grave yardQuote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSelf-esteem issues, huh? :lolhaha: If you say it enough times you might convince yourself. It's obvious you can't edit my posts to your liking like you do in the other board. Sucks, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I never edited your post to suit my own needs, just edited something you posted which was bad taste...
Don't worry I'd NEVER stop the masses seeing what a proper prick you are;D
what board is this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSince I been here no mod has ever edited any of my posts. I don't think I ever seen anybodies post edited by a mod. Yet all of a sudden a baby mod does it cuz I criticized his favorite fighter. :LOLATYOU: No wonder that board is a grave yardQuote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I never edited your post to suit my own needs, just edited something you posted which was bad taste...
Don't worry I'd NEVER stop the masses seeing what a proper prick you are;D