Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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I agree that Montiel-Darchi is the bigger fight since it's for all the belts and it will be considered a competitive fight and difficult to predict the outcome BUT saying
Donaire-Darchi rematch doesn't make sense at this time is one I can't agree. The rematch always makes sense all the time or else as one poster here pointed out, Darchi will forever be known as Nonito's little bitch... We, Donaire supporters can live with that...
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Regarding your statement that
"Donaire has done nothing at 115", this one also I can't agree... Donaire has done something at 115, he was the former NABF 115 champion!! For whatever it's worth, it's still an accomplishment for a boxer and it cannot be just considered as nothing... Of course Montiel and Darchi has done more at 115 compared to Nonito, they are the current regular world champs...
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Your just contradicting yourself! If you say Darchinyan/ Montiel is the bigger fight then as a boxing fan would you want to see the bigger fight 1st? If you answer no then you might want to think about following another sport! The best fighting the best in the biggest fights is want I want to see!!! So logically Darchinyan/ Donaire 2 doesn't make sense at this time... after a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight sure... Donaire supporters can live with whatever they want if a rematch never happens... at the moment I see Darchinyans name on the P4P list not Donaires! Darchinyan has worked on his legacy since the KO loss, whereas Donaires may be going down the drain after the Martinez fight!
As for accomplishments at 115, winning an meaningless trinket does nothing to increase a case for a rematch before Darchinyan/ Montiel is made! But if your into following totally worthless belts I'm sure you'll be happy to hear Francis Botha had a similar worthless accomplishment winning a crap trinket recently!
All I say is Donaire-Montiel, Donaire-Darchi, Montiel-Darchi are all sensible fights, just don't say Donaire-Darchi does not make sense...
Regarding accomplishments, it's clear Donaire made some at 115 and made tremendous accomplishment at 112 by trashing the once perceived indestructible force at 112 who is now widely known as Nonito's little whore...
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I'm saying Darchinyan/ Donaire doesn't make sense at the moment! How many times do I have to repeat myself? Its not that I don't think it should happen, it should... just not now. You said yourself Darchinyan/ Montiel is bigger so it makes sense to see that 1st then maybe we can have the rematch. Is that so hard to understand? A donaire rematch just does not make sense at the moment when the biggest fight at the weight is Darchinyan/ Montiel!!! That is a fact!!!
I agree Donaire's ko was a great achievement but as you said it was at 112. He has done nothing at 115 to warrant getting a rematch before the biggest fight available is made!!! You said yourself that its the bigger fight so needs to be made 1st, the rematch has to wait... it makes sense to me!
I must be running in the wrong circles because I've never heard Darchinyan referred to as that! Maybe just a name Donaire huggers use!!!
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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Your just contradicting yourself! If you say Darchinyan/ Montiel is the bigger fight then as a boxing fan would you want to see the bigger fight 1st? If you answer no then you might want to think about following another sport! The best fighting the best in the biggest fights is want I want to see!!! So logically Darchinyan/ Donaire 2 doesn't make sense at this time... after a Darchinyan/ Montiel fight sure... Donaire supporters can live with whatever they want if a rematch never happens... at the moment I see Darchinyans name on the P4P list not Donaires! Darchinyan has worked on his legacy since the KO loss, whereas Donaires may be going down the drain after the Martinez fight!
As for accomplishments at 115, winning an meaningless trinket does nothing to increase a case for a rematch before Darchinyan/ Montiel is made! But if your into following totally worthless belts I'm sure you'll be happy to hear Francis Botha had a similar worthless accomplishment winning a crap trinket recently!
All I say is Donaire-Montiel, Donaire-Darchi, Montiel-Darchi are all sensible fights, just don't say Donaire-Darchi does not make sense...
Regarding accomplishments, it's clear Donaire made some at 115 and made tremendous accomplishment at 112 by trashing the once perceived indestructible force at 112 who is now widely known as Nonito's little whore...
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I'm saying Darchinyan/ Donaire doesn't make sense at the moment! How many times do I have to repeat myself? Its not that I don't think it should happen, it should... just not now. You said yourself Darchinyan/ Montiel is bigger so it makes sense to see that 1st then maybe we can have the rematch. Is that so hard to understand? A donaire rematch just does not make sense at the moment when the biggest fight at the weight is Darchinyan/ Montiel!!! That is a fact!!!
I agree Donaire's ko was a great achievement but as you said it was at 112. He has done nothing at 115 to warrant getting a rematch before the biggest fight available is made!!! You said yourself that its the bigger fight so needs to be made 1st, the rematch has to wait... it makes sense to me!
I must be running in the wrong circles because I've never heard Darchinyan referred to as that! Maybe just a name Donaire huggers use!!!
Yes Montiel-Darchi is big but don't be so high about that... It's reported Montiel has problems making 115 so the unification bout is in jeopardy... Also remember Montiel with TopRank, it's highly possible that any Montiel-Darchi negotiations could involve a Donaire option as a future fight, Darchi cannot avoid anymore a Donaire rematch... ;)
Regarding Nonito's little whore or bitch, just ask any avid boxing fan this question: "Who knock out Vic Darchinyan cold?" ... ;)
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Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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SaddoBoxer
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Galaxy
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All I say is Donaire-Montiel, Donaire-Darchi, Montiel-Darchi are all sensible fights, just don't say Donaire-Darchi does not make sense...
Regarding accomplishments, it's clear Donaire made some at 115 and made tremendous accomplishment at 112 by trashing the once perceived indestructible force at 112 who is now widely known as Nonito's little whore...
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I'm saying Darchinyan/ Donaire doesn't make sense at the moment! How many times do I have to repeat myself? Its not that I don't think it should happen, it should... just not now. You said yourself Darchinyan/ Montiel is bigger so it makes sense to see that 1st then maybe we can have the rematch. Is that so hard to understand? A donaire rematch just does not make sense at the moment when the biggest fight at the weight is Darchinyan/ Montiel!!! That is a fact!!!
I agree Donaire's ko was a great achievement but as you said it was at 112. He has done nothing at 115 to warrant getting a rematch before the biggest fight available is made!!! You said yourself that its the bigger fight so needs to be made 1st, the rematch has to wait... it makes sense to me!
I must be running in the wrong circles because I've never heard Darchinyan referred to as that! Maybe just a name Donaire huggers use!!!
Yes Montiel-Darchi is big but don't be so high about that... It's reported Montiel has problems making 115 so the unification bout is in jeopardy... Also remember Montiel with TopRank, it's highly possible that any Montiel-Darchi negotiations could involve a Donaire option as a future fight, Darchi cannot avoid anymore a Donaire rematch... ;)
Regarding Nonito's little whore or bitch, just ask any avid boxing fan this question:
"Who knock out Vic Darchinyan cold?" ... ;)
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I'm just trying to prove a point! You keep saying that a Donaire rematch makes sense but it doesn't compared to a possible Montiel fight! Understand?
A Montiel fight may be in jeopardy but its more of a possiblilty than a Donaire rematch at this time. It just may be that Darchinyan doesn't need Donaire (as I said he's in the P4P whilst Donaires career has flounded). If after a Montiel fight is made & Darchinyan wins then a Donaire rematch can be talked about if he gets past Martinez. But Vic maybe looking at bigger fights & bigger names at higher weights e.g. Vasquez or Marquez!
Everyone knows Donaire ko'd Darchinyan no one is questioning that. But most boxing fans have more respect for guys that step between those ropes than to label them with derogatory names.
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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SaddoBoxer
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Galaxy
I'm saying Darchinyan/ Donaire doesn't make sense at the moment! How many times do I have to repeat myself? Its not that I don't think it should happen, it should... just not now. You said yourself Darchinyan/ Montiel is bigger so it makes sense to see that 1st then maybe we can have the rematch. Is that so hard to understand? A donaire rematch just does not make sense at the moment when the biggest fight at the weight is Darchinyan/ Montiel!!! That is a fact!!!
I agree Donaire's ko was a great achievement but as you said it was at 112. He has done nothing at 115 to warrant getting a rematch before the biggest fight available is made!!! You said yourself that its the bigger fight so needs to be made 1st, the rematch has to wait... it makes sense to me!
I must be running in the wrong circles because I've never heard Darchinyan referred to as that! Maybe just a name Donaire huggers use!!!
Yes Montiel-Darchi is big but don't be so high about that... It's reported Montiel has problems making 115 so the unification bout is in jeopardy... Also remember Montiel with TopRank, it's highly possible that any Montiel-Darchi negotiations could involve a Donaire option as a future fight, Darchi cannot avoid anymore a Donaire rematch... ;)
Regarding Nonito's little whore or bitch, just ask any avid boxing fan this question:
"Who knock out Vic Darchinyan cold?" ... ;)
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I'm just trying to prove a point! You keep saying that a Donaire rematch makes sense but it doesn't compared to a possible Montiel fight! Understand?
A Montiel fight may be in jeopardy but its more of a possiblilty than a Donaire rematch at this time. It just may be that Darchinyan doesn't need Donaire (as I said he's in the P4P whilst Donaires career has flounded). If after a Montiel fight is made & Darchinyan wins then a Donaire rematch can be talked about if he gets past Martinez. But Vic maybe looking at bigger fights & bigger names at higher weights e.g. Vasquez or Marquez!
Everyone knows Donaire ko'd Darchinyan no one is questioning that. But most boxing fans have more respect for guys that step between those ropes than to label them with derogatory names.
Bro Galaxy, can you please stop using those exclamation points (!!!! too many of them already)... The topic here is "gary shaw acting like a baby!" It seems you're taking over Gary's place...
I'm done with this topic for now... I will leave it as it is...
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Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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SaddoBoxer
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Galaxy
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Yes Montiel-Darchi is big but don't be so high about that... It's reported Montiel has problems making 115 so the unification bout is in jeopardy... Also remember Montiel with TopRank, it's highly possible that any Montiel-Darchi negotiations could involve a Donaire option as a future fight, Darchi cannot avoid anymore a Donaire rematch... ;)
Regarding Nonito's little whore or bitch, just ask any avid boxing fan this question: "Who knock out Vic Darchinyan cold?" ... ;)
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I'm just trying to prove a point! You keep saying that a Donaire rematch makes sense but it doesn't compared to a possible Montiel fight! Understand?
A Montiel fight may be in jeopardy but its more of a possiblilty than a Donaire rematch at this time. It just may be that Darchinyan doesn't need Donaire (as I said he's in the P4P whilst Donaires career has flounded). If after a Montiel fight is made & Darchinyan wins then a Donaire rematch can be talked about if he gets past Martinez. But Vic maybe looking at bigger fights & bigger names at higher weights e.g. Vasquez or Marquez!
Everyone knows Donaire ko'd Darchinyan no one is questioning that. But most boxing fans have more respect for guys that step between those ropes than to label them with derogatory names.
Bro Galaxy, can you please stop using those exclamation points (!!!! too many of them already)... The topic here is
"gary shaw acting like a baby!" It seems you're taking over Gary's place...
I'm done with this topic for now... I will leave it as it is...
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Man I love my exclamation points!!!
I don't see how I can be taking Shaws place when I'm just pointing out your own contradictions & stating facts!!!
Plus it was not me who used disrespectful names against a warrior of the ring! Most fans are able to debate & discuss in a mature way.
As you stated the topic is called 'Shaw acting like a baby' but huggers using terms like B*tch & whore are just childish...
Montiel/ Darchinyan is the fight I want to see as I'm sure most fans do, a Donaire rematch doesn't even come close
& if Martinez doesn't get robbed he's walking away a winner vs Nonito
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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SaddoBoxer
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Galaxy
I'm just trying to prove a point! You keep saying that a Donaire rematch makes sense but it doesn't compared to a possible Montiel fight! Understand?
A Montiel fight may be in jeopardy but its more of a possiblilty than a Donaire rematch at this time. It just may be that Darchinyan doesn't need Donaire (as I said he's in the P4P whilst Donaires career has flounded). If after a Montiel fight is made & Darchinyan wins then a Donaire rematch can be talked about if he gets past Martinez. But Vic maybe looking at bigger fights & bigger names at higher weights e.g. Vasquez or Marquez!
Everyone knows Donaire ko'd Darchinyan no one is questioning that. But most boxing fans have more respect for guys that step between those ropes than to label them with derogatory names.
Bro Galaxy, can you please stop using those exclamation points (!!!! too many of them already)... The topic here is
"gary shaw acting like a baby!" It seems you're taking over Gary's place...
I'm done with this topic for now... I will leave it as it is...
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Man I love my exclamation points!!!
I don't see how I can be taking Shaws place when I'm just pointing out your own contradictions & stating facts!!!
Plus it was not me who used disrespectful names against a warrior of the ring! Most fans are able to debate & discuss in a mature way.
As you stated the topic is called 'Shaw acting like a baby' but huggers using terms like B*tch & whore are just childish...
Montiel/ Darchinyan is the fight I want to see as I'm sure most fans do, a Donaire rematch doesn't even come close
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if Martinez doesn't get robbed he's walking away a winner vs Nonito
That remains to be seen...
You can keep your exclamation points if you love it very much... ;)
Cheers Bro Galaxy Man... It's nice discussing with you...
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Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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SaddoBoxer
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Galaxy
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SaddoBoxer
Bro Galaxy, can you please stop using those exclamation points (!!!! too many of them already)... The topic here is "gary shaw acting like a baby!" It seems you're taking over Gary's place...
I'm done with this topic for now... I will leave it as it is...
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Man I love my exclamation points!!!
I don't see how I can be taking Shaws place when I'm just pointing out your own contradictions & stating facts!!!
Plus it was not me who used disrespectful names against a warrior of the ring! Most fans are able to debate & discuss in a mature way.
As you stated the topic is called 'Shaw acting like a baby' but huggers using terms like B*tch & whore are just childish...
Montiel/ Darchinyan is the fight I want to see as I'm sure most fans do, a Donaire rematch doesn't even come close
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if Martinez doesn't get robbed he's walking away a winner vs Nonito
That remains to be seen...
You can keep your exclamation points if you love it very much... ;)
Cheers Bro Galaxy Man... It's nice discussing with you...
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Thank you, I love them!!!
If the fight wasn't in the Philippines I'd have a sig bet with you but I already seen Darchinyan get ripped off against Gorres so I'm a little untrusting.
Lets hope we get to see a Donaire rematch in the future because it would be ashame if it doesn't happen!
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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Yea they should go ahead and let Vic and Montiel fight eachother. Whoever wins gets knocked the fucked out by Nonito anyways. Hopefully after Nonito Ktfo Martinez the winner of Vic/Montiel is next for him.
Vic is obviously an easy fight for Nonito, even Gary shaw admitted he wont reward Nonito with a Vic match. That is like handing Nonito the 3 titles :lolhaha: Vic got dominated every round and didn't even last 5 rounds. Somebody said Maldonaldo was weaken by Vic but howcome Maldonaldo lasted longer then vic against Nonito? ;D
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Funny how 2 judges haad the fight 38-38. Yeah that shows Nonito won every round.
All u guys say Vic is ducking Nonito if he doesnt fight him again, well I guess that means that Pac ducked Singsurat after he got KTFO by him. Why didnt Manny push for the rematch?
Or is Donaire ducking Rosendo Sanchez cos he never rematched him? It is just a stupid theory really.
Has Hopkins ducked Jones for the whole later part of his career?
Did Kostya duck Vince Phillips?
Of course that is nonsense but it makes as much sense as all the Pacfans arguments, about Vic ducking Donaire! If a guy loses to another fighter but then goes on to beat better fighters, and has a much more succesful career then he wasnt ducking him he went in another direction.
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Why is that? Cuz he beat him? So technically that would make Donaire Rosendo Sanchez little biitch, right? Or little whore. Whatever you want to call it.
Coz he KTFO of him. It was a KO of the year winner. Vic Darchinyan got beaten fair and square. No weight issues, or any controversies. Gary Shaw shitted on himself when he saw that left hook landed. He knew he fukked up. His main man is down. Is Donaire a one-hit wonder? a flash in the pan? Maybe. Could be. Unless he proves himself to the world that he's top notch. Does Darchinyan needs to avenge his humiliating loss? Yes. almost every great fighter did so. When they are humbled by a loss, they can't wait for payback time. Lennox Lewis after getting KTFO by Rahman did revenge in a more devastating fashion. Roy Jones in his prime after being disqualified against Griffin wanted vindication and guess what it took him a round to do so. Izzy against Rafa. and the list goes on..They all like the taste of vengeance. as of being Donaire's biitch..yeah I think he still is unless he avenge his KO loss and shadows his humiliating loss. Hell Im a big Erik Morales fan and until now I still brag to my buddies about his win against Pac when they first fought. I know he got his as*s steamrolled twice but I just can't get over it. That was sweet..So regardin these Donaire hugger,we can't really blame them if they act like a*ssholes. Talk the talk. walk the walk. they got all the rights.
For the record.. I think Darchinyan/ Montiel would be awesome. I was actually expecting Donaire to be Montiel's next opponent but I can live with that.Btw Montiel beats both of them IMO.
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Why is that? Cuz he beat him? So technically that would make Donaire Rosendo Sanchez little biitch, right? Or little whore. Whatever you want to call it.
Coz he KTFO of him. It was a KO of the year winner. Vic Darchinyan got beaten fair and square. No weight issues, or any controversies. Gary Shaw shitted on himself when he saw that left hook landed. He knew he fukked up. His main man is down. Is Donaire a one-hit wonder? a flash in the pan? Maybe. Could be. Unless he proves himself to the world that he's top notch. Does Darchinyan needs to avenge his humiliating loss? Yes. almost every great fighter did so. When they are humbled by a loss, they can't wait for payback time. Lennox Lewis after getting KTFO by Rahman did revenge in a more devastating fashion. Roy Jones in his prime after being disqualified against Griffin wanted vindication and guess what it took him a round to do so. Izzy against Rafa. and the list goes on..They all like the taste of vengeance. as of being Donaire's biitch..yeah I think he still is unless he avenge his KO loss and shadows his humiliating loss. Hell Im a big Erik Morales fan and until now I still brag to my buddies about his win against Pac when they first fought. I know he got his as*s steamrolled twice but I just can't get over it. That was sweet..So regardin these Donaire hugger,we can't really blame them if they act like a*ssholes. Talk the talk. walk the walk. they got all the rights.
For the record.. I think Darchinyan/ Montiel would be awesome. I was actually expecting Donaire to be Montiel's next opponent but I can live with that.Btw Montiel beats both of them IMO.
I know what Donaire did to Darchinyan. Good for him. But that happened almost 2 years ago. What's he going to do? Live off that for the rest of his career? He ain't done shiit since. And it's his own fault. When he was with Shaw he got 2 title fights on ShowTime in a 4 months span. Since he left Shaw he's fought one time in a year. Against a mediocre opponent that wasn't televised on HBO or ShowTime. It wasn't even on ESPN or Versus. His next fight as of right now isn't set to be telivised either. Is this the type of exposure he wanted?
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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Violent Demise
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the_pRoDiGy
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Why is that? Cuz he beat him? So technically that would make Donaire Rosendo Sanchez little biitch, right? Or little whore. Whatever you want to call it.
Coz he KTFO of him. It was a KO of the year winner. Vic Darchinyan got beaten fair and square. No weight issues, or any controversies. Gary Shaw shitted on himself when he saw that left hook landed. He knew he fukked up. His main man is down. Is Donaire a one-hit wonder? a flash in the pan? Maybe. Could be. Unless he proves himself to the world that he's top notch. Does Darchinyan needs to avenge his humiliating loss? Yes. almost every great fighter did so. When they are humbled by a loss, they can't wait for payback time. Lennox Lewis after getting KTFO by Rahman did revenge in a more devastating fashion. Roy Jones in his prime after being disqualified against Griffin wanted vindication and guess what it took him a round to do so. Izzy against Rafa. and the list goes on..They all like the taste of vengeance. as of being Donaire's biitch..yeah I think he still is unless he avenge his KO loss and shadows his humiliating loss. Hell Im a big Erik Morales fan and until now I still brag to my buddies about his win against Pac when they first fought. I know he got his as*s steamrolled twice but I just can't get over it. That was sweet..So regardin these Donaire hugger,we can't really blame them if they act like a*ssholes. Talk the talk. walk the walk. they got all the rights.
For the record.. I think Darchinyan/ Montiel would be awesome. I was actually expecting Donaire to be Montiel's next opponent but I can live with that.Btw Montiel beats both of them IMO.
I know what Donaire did to Darchinyan. Good for him. But that happened almost 2 years ago. What's he going to do? Live off that for the rest of his career? He ain't done shiit since. And it's his own fault. When he was with Shaw he got 2 title fights on ShowTime in a 4 months span. Since he left Shaw he's fought one time in a year. Against a mediocre opponent that wasn't televised on HBO or ShowTime. It wasn't even on ESPN or Versus. His next fight as of right now isn't set to be telivised either. Is this the type of exposure he wanted?
It could all just be bad luck. He made the right choice. Top Rank is a lot more credible than Showtime. Remember he was supposed to fight Montiel next. and his previous fight was supposed to make him shine. He didn't. It's just bad luck. Or maybe a case of ring rust. Or maybe he really is just a one-hit wonder. We can't tell just yet.
The fight with Darchinyan was held in a small casino in Connecticut. Not a PPV fight as well. And we all knew Gary Shaw taught Darchinyan would walk over Donaire. And the title defense was good. It should be mandatory. Plus Shaw could have been thinking he has a new pet. But after that there came the promotional issues. He was in purgatory for a while and apparently it was intentional. That's when he left Shaw. His next fight in the Philippines would be a much bigger fight than his fight against Darchinyan venue wise. what made that fight 'big' was the upset and the KO of the year. but if Darchinyan won as usual it would have been a forgetable fight. His next fight has good undercards. Of course it won't be televised by Showtime cuz Shaw owns it. Top Rank would do the telecast, I'm sure they have one.
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Donaire wanted to be expose to the filipino crowd, he wanted to be appealing to his people. He was born in the philippines but raise in california. He knows its the filipino people that will back him up all the way and they will be the ones buying tickets and ppv to watch him. Gary shaw can't do that for him. Top Rank Boss Bob Arum can.
It has been about 2 years since his win over vic, but Nonito is only 26 or 25 years old. He has a lot of time to accomplish many things. Before Nonito, Vic fought lots of low level oppenent. Vic had no choice but to accomplish a lot more then Nonito in the 2 years since his defeat. Vic is already 32 I think, if a rematch is to happen it will likely be vics last fight.
I can't see why would anybody argue that Nonito moving to Top ranks is a bad move. Gary shaw isn't going to take nonito nowhere, Bob arum can make him bigger.
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Coz he KTFO of him. It was a KO of the year winner. Vic Darchinyan got beaten fair and square. No weight issues, or any controversies. Gary Shaw shitted on himself when he saw that left hook landed. He knew he fukked up. His main man is down. Is Donaire a one-hit wonder? a flash in the pan? Maybe. Could be. Unless he proves himself to the world that he's top notch. Does Darchinyan needs to avenge his humiliating loss? Yes. almost every great fighter did so. When they are humbled by a loss, they can't wait for payback time. Lennox Lewis after getting KTFO by Rahman did revenge in a more devastating fashion. Roy Jones in his prime after being disqualified against Griffin wanted vindication and guess what it took him a round to do so. Izzy against Rafa. and the list goes on..They all like the taste of vengeance. as of being Donaire's biitch..yeah I think he still is unless he avenge his KO loss and shadows his humiliating loss. Hell Im a big Erik Morales fan and until now I still brag to my buddies about his win against Pac when they first fought. I know he got his as*s steamrolled twice but I just can't get over it. That was sweet..So regardin these Donaire hugger,we can't really blame them if they act like a*ssholes. Talk the talk. walk the walk. they got all the rights.
For the record.. I think Darchinyan/ Montiel would be awesome. I was actually expecting Donaire to be Montiel's next opponent but I can live with that.Btw Montiel beats both of them IMO.
I know what Donaire did to Darchinyan. Good for him. But that happened almost 2 years ago. What's he going to do? Live off that for the rest of his career? He ain't done shiit since. And it's his own fault. When he was with Shaw he got 2 title fights on ShowTime in a 4 months span. Since he left Shaw he's fought one time in a year. Against a mediocre opponent that wasn't televised on HBO or ShowTime. It wasn't even on ESPN or Versus. His next fight as of right now isn't set to be telivised either. Is this the type of exposure he wanted?
It could all just be bad luck. He made the right choice.
Top Rank is a lot more credible than Showtime. Remember he was supposed to fight Montiel next. and his previous fight was supposed to make him shine. He didn't. It's just bad luck. Or maybe a case of ring rust. Or maybe he really is just a one-hit wonder. We can't tell just yet.
The fight with Darchinyan was held in a small casino in Connecticut. Not a PPV fight as well. And we all knew Gary Shaw taught Darchinyan would walk over Donaire. And the title defense was good. It should be mandatory. Plus Shaw could have been thinking he has a new pet. But after that there came the promotional issues. He was in purgatory for a while and apparently it was intentional. That's when he left Shaw. His next fight in the Philippines would be a much bigger fight than his fight against Darchinyan venue wise. what made that fight 'big' was the upset and the KO of the year. but if Darchinyan won as usual it would have been a forgetable fight. His next fight has good undercards. Of course it won't be televised by Showtime cuz Shaw owns it. Top Rank would do the telecast, I'm sure they have one.
I stop reading after that. That just makes no sense.
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Donaire wanted to be expose to the filipino crowd, he wanted to be appealing to his people. He was born in the philippines but raise in california. He knows its the filipino people that will back him up all the way and they will be the ones buying tickets and ppv to watch him. Gary shaw can't do that for him. Top Rank Boss Bob Arum can.
It has been about 2 years since his win over vic, but Nonito is only 26 or 25 years old. He has a lot of time to accomplish many things. Before Nonito, Vic fought lots of low level oppenent. Vic had no choice but to accomplish a lot more then Nonito in the 2 years since his defeat. Vic is already 32 I think, if a rematch is to happen it will likely be vics last fight.
I can't see why would anybody argue that Nonito moving to Top ranks is a bad move. Gary shaw isn't going to take nonito nowhere, Bob arum can make him bigger.
It don't change the fact that all Donaire has on his resume is Darchinyan. That's it. How long is he going to ride that for?
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I stop reading after that. That just makes no sense.
Whatever. Main events. Shobox. I honestly have no idea what exactly his promotional company. Didn't care if he partly owned Showtime or what. As far as I knew Chad Dawson is his only 'potential' 'future' PPV fighter left. Gone are the days when he was one of the bigger pimps. The old guy is broke ala Don King.
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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the_pRoDiGy
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I stop reading after that. That just makes no sense.
Whatever. Main events. Shobox. I honestly have no idea what exactly his promotional company. Didn't care if he partly owned Showtime or what. As far as I knew Chad Dawson is his only 'potential' 'future' PPV fighter left. Gone are the days when he was one of the bigger pimps. The old guy is broke ala Don King.
Shaw is by no means the biggest promoter out there but he does have 3 top 20 P4P fighters, Dawson, Darchinyan, and Marquez. He also has 2 of the most exciting hispanic prospects in Angulo and Demarco. Add that to the likes of Timothy Bradley, Andre Dirrell and Ali Funeka and i dont think Gary is broke yet....
As for Don King I only wish i was as broke as him.....
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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eagle
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the_pRoDiGy
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I stop reading after that. That just makes no sense.
Whatever. Main events. Shobox. I honestly have no idea what exactly his promotional company. Didn't care if he partly owned Showtime or what. As far as I knew Chad Dawson is his only 'potential' 'future' PPV fighter left. Gone are the days when he was one of the bigger pimps. The old guy is broke ala Don King.
Shaw is by no means the biggest promoter out there but he does have 3 top 20 P4P fighters, Dawson, Darchinyan, and Marquez. He also has 2 of the most exciting hispanic prospects in Angulo and Demarco. Add that to the likes of Timothy Bradley, Andre Dirrell and Ali Funeka and i dont think Gary is broke yet....
As for Don King I only wish i was as broke as him.....
So am I!;D Heck Bill Gates declared bankcruptcy. Hell seems everybody's going broke thesedays! Shaw is on the downside. You've got to admit he's rep is on the decline. We rarely hear his name with all these big fights lately. Unlike before he was all over these monumental fights. If I'm not mistaken he was the promoter of the Lewis-Tyson fight. The big dogs today is Bob and Oscar. So back to the Donaire decision, not a big mistake. Again, it could all be bad luck and worse timing.
Re: gary shaw acting like a baby!
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the_pRoDiGy
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eagle
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Originally Posted by
the_pRoDiGy
Whatever. Main events. Shobox. I honestly have no idea what exactly his promotional company. Didn't care if he partly owned Showtime or what. As far as I knew Chad Dawson is his only 'potential' 'future' PPV fighter left. Gone are the days when he was one of the bigger pimps. The old guy is broke ala Don King.
Shaw is by no means the biggest promoter out there but he does have 3 top 20 P4P fighters, Dawson, Darchinyan, and Marquez. He also has 2 of the most exciting hispanic prospects in Angulo and Demarco. Add that to the likes of Timothy Bradley, Andre Dirrell and Ali Funeka and i dont think Gary is broke yet....
As for Don King I only wish i was as broke as him.....
So am I!;D Heck Bill Gates declared bankcruptcy. Hell seems everybody's going broke thesedays! Shaw is on the downside. You've got to admit he's rep is on the decline. We rarely hear his name with all these big fights lately. Unlike before he was all over these monumental fights. If I'm not mistaken he was the promoter of the Lewis-Tyson fight. The big dogs today is Bob and Oscar. So back to the Donaire decision, not a big mistake. Again, it could all be bad luck and worse timing.
Well we'll wait and see. Top Rank his done sweet fuck all for Nonito so far, and if he does happen to lose soon they'll quickly forget about him and concentrate on one of their many other fighters.
Shaw showed his great promotional skills by getting Cosme Rivera as a back up for Angulo on such short notice.
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who does montiel have on his resume and how old is he?
nonito is only 25 i think and already holds a 5th round ktfo win over vic.
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Julius Rain
who does montiel have on his resume and how old is he?
nonito is only 25 i think and already holds a 5th round ktfo win over vic.
Castillo
Gorres
and he also has split decision losses to great fighters in Johnson and Gonzalez.
Your right its not a huge resume but it has more depth to it than Nonito's at the moment. Could change.
