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I think also the points awarding system could be restructed a little to define rankings e.g.
23 points for #1
19 points for #2
16 points for #3
14 points for #4
11 points for #5
9 points for #6
7 points for #7
5 points for #8
3 points for #9
1 point for #10
What do you guys think?
Here ya go Sheep :) ..my cruiser rankings anyways
Cruiserweights:
1. Tomasz Adamek
2. Steve Cunningham
3. Guillermo Jones
4. Marco Huck
5. Ola Afolabi
6. Victor Emilio Ramirez
7. Matt Godfrey
8. Troy Ross
9. Wayne Braithwaite
10. Giacobbe Fragomeni
Gimmie some time Sheep. I'm out here in Bakersfield on a job. I'll post and vote in a day or 2
I did PM everyone earlier, the different point weights don't matter take for example fighter A and BQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I rate A at 6th for 9 points and B at 5th for 11 points, you rank them the opposite A at 5th for 11 points and B for 9 points
the both have a value of 20 points as a tie, this is what's happening right now at a larger scale. The points system as it stands works we simply need more votes. Furthermore we need to decide if we turn ties over to the Division Manager to make the call or to revote on tie breakers.
As Galaxy mentioned this only will happen once for this initial vote then the system of fighting for rank and stripping for inactivity comes into play it will be almost automated after that. The only job for the managers is to notify the committee when something has come up in there division to vote on. Votes will occur to take fill in vacant spots in the rankings and to determine if the fight is worthy of a Title.
Current ties
Heavyweight
4th, Alexander Povetkin and Nicolay Valuev
10th, Alexander Dimintrenko and Chris Arreola
Cruiserweight
6th, Krzysztof Wlodarczyk and Firat Arslan
10th, BJ Flores and Matt Godfrey
Middleweight
10th, Amin Asikainen and John Duddy
Light Welterweight
4th, Paul Malignaggi and Kendall Holt
Lightweight
10th, Antonio Pitalua and Breidis Prescott
Super Featherweight
3rd, Roman Martinez and Jorge Linares
8th, Mzonke Fana and Robert Guerrero
10th, Nicky Cook and Daud Yordan
Featherweight
10th, Choi Seveenpurev, Yuriorkis Gamboa and Oscar Larios
Super Bantamweight
6th, Poonsawat Kraetingdaenggym and Ricardo Cordoba
Bantamweight
3rd, Wladimir Sidorenko and Silence Mabuza
5th, Joseph Agbeko and Gerry Penalosa
7th, Abner Mares and Roberto Vazquez
10th, Nehomar Cermeno and William Gonzalez
Light Flyweight
8th, Hugo Cazares and Juan Carlos Reveco
10th, Nelson Dieppa and Katsunari Takayama
Minimumweight
2nd, Raul Garcia and Oleydong Sithsamerchai
6th, Milan Melindo, Juan Palacios and Muhammad Rahman
10th, Manuel Vargas and Katsunari Takayama
Been slacking here fellas,sorry.Will definatly have 140 up when home as well as rest.Had many up last night and 'timed' out..hit submit & all was lost :furious2:;D.Do agree Sheep that maybe division management should have desciding say on tie-breakers?
I'm fine with that, after more people put their votes in the number of ties should decrease. Bro, you should put everything in a text document and then copy and paste it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Featherweight
1. Chris John
2. Steven Luevano
3. Mario Santiago
4. Takahiro Aoh
5. Rocky Juarez
6. Hiroyuki Enoki
7. Yuriorkis Gamboa
8. Cristobal Cruz
9. Jorge Solis
10. Billy Dib
Heavyweight
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Vitali Klitschko
3. Ruslan Chagaev
4. Nikolai Valuev
5. Alexander Povetkin
6. Juan Carlos Gomez
7. Alexander Dimitrenko
8. Chris Arreola
9. Samuel Peter
10. David Haye
I refuse to recognize any list which includes Billy Dib. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Scott22
Then put in your ratings for every weight & have your say tooQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI refuse to recognize any list which includes Billy Dib. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Scott22
It was a joke, hence the :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyThen put in your ratings for every weight & have your say tooQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI refuse to recognize any list which includes Billy Dib. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Scott22
Better late than never I suppose.Putting up my 140 1st as its primary and then hashing out the rest shortly
Not including Campbell and Pacquiao until they have actually contested at Jr.Welt.Also on the fence with Zab Judah,he has announced intentions to come back down and has roamed jr. welter Division prior?
Anyone else think he should be in the mix,hes def. top ten at 140 I believe....lower tier ;D
1*Ricky Hatton
2*Timothy Bradley
3*Kendall Holt
4*Junior witter
5*Juan Urango
6*Paulie Maliniaggi
7*Herman Ngoudjo
8*Ricardo Torres
9*Andres Kotelink
10*Victor Ortiz
Sweet brutha, I was just trying to intice you into giving us all your rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIt was a joke, hence the :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyThen put in your ratings for every weight & have your say tooQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
It would really help us set up the initial ratings.
I know your a knowledgable dude on most of the top fighters & must have some in put on the majority of the divisions.
Even if you just gave us your rankings on the divisions that killer listed with the ties in them.
I'm busy writing an essay right now, I'll vote on the tie-breakers either later tonight or tomorrow, provided I don't drink myself into a coma when I'm done this fucking paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxySweet brutha, I was just trying to intice you into giving us all your rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHIt was a joke, hence the :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
It would really help us set up the initial ratings.
I know your a knowledgable dude on most of the top fighters & must have some in put on the majority of the divisions.
Even if you just gave us your rankings on the divisions that killer listed with the ties in them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'm busy writing an essay right now, I'll vote on the tie-breakers either later tonight or tomorrow, provided I don't drink myself into a coma when I'm done this fucking paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxySweet brutha, I was just trying to intice you into giving us all your rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
It would really help us set up the initial ratings.
I know your a knowledgable dude on most of the top fighters & must have some in put on the majority of the divisions.
Even if you just gave us your rankings on the divisions that killer listed with the ties in them.
All good mate, I know everyones got there own things to take care of... its tough being a manager but just think about when we starting gettings those sanction fees rolling in!
Ok here's how we'll close this out. Once I get 8 votes on a ranking or time goes over, I will turn it over to the Manager's to break the ties and then they will be posted.
Yep, sounds good. We get all the initial rankings & any ties go to the manager to rank the tied fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Awesome stuff,good to go!.Been caught up in big world shite but as long as you dont ask me to constantly trim hours and raise prices, I'll survive ;D.
whats the deadline Thursday time ?
I'll actually be doing the updates friday after work, so 5-6 pm your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Hey killer I've finished my rankings for the 2 lowest weight classes, and I've also reassessed my featherweight rankings a bit now I've thought about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Super Flyweight
1. Vic Darchinyan
2. Christian Mijares
3. Alexander Muñoz
4. Nobou Nashiro
5. Roberto Vasquez
6. Jorge Arce
7. Rafael Concepcion
8. Daiki Kameda
9. Z Gorres
10. AJ Banal
Flyweights
1. Daisuke Naito
2. Omar Narváez
3. Denkaosan Kaowichit
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Koki Kameda
6. Hugo Cazares
7. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
8. Omar Salado
9. Takefumi Sakata
10. Bernard Inom
Junior Flyweights
1. Ivan Calderon
2. Ulises Solis
3. Edgar Sosa
4. Brahim Asloum
5. Giovanni Segura
6. Juan Carlos Reveco
7. Brian Villoria
8. Omar Nino
9. Cesar Canchila
10. Adrian Hernandez
Votes entered by division
Heavyweight 7/8
Cruiserweight 6/8
Light Heavyweight 6/8
Super Middleweight 6/8
Middleweight 4/8
Light Middleweight 4/8
Welterweight 5/8
Light Welterweight 5/8
Lightweight 5/8
Super Featherweight 4/8
Featherweight 5/8
Super Bantamweight 3/8
Bantamweight 3/8
Super Flyweight 4/8
Flyweight 4/8
Light Flyweight 4/8
Minimumweight 3/8
Light Heavyweight
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Chad Dawson
3. Glen Johnson
4. Antonio Tarver
5. Clinton Woods
6. Roy Jones
7. Zsolt Erdei
8. Adrian Diaconu
9. Hugo Hernan Garay
10. Juergen Braehmer
Lightweight
1. Juan Manuel Marquez
2. Juan Diaz
3. Joel Casamayor
4. Ali Funeka
5. Yuri Romanov
6. Julio Diaz
7. Anthony Peterson
8. Joan Guzman
9. Edwin Valero
10. Michael Katsidis
Strawweight
1. Roman Gonzalez
2. Raul Garcia
3. Oleydong Sithsanerchai
4. Donnie Nietes
5. Manuel Vargas
6. Milan Melindo
7. Juan Palacios
8. Ronald Barrera
9. Muhammad Rachman
10. Florante Condes
Bantamweight
1. Hozumi Hasegawa
2. Fernando Montiel
3. Eric Morel
4. Gerry Penalosa
5. Joseph Agbeko
6. Anselmo Moreno
7. Silence Mabuza
8. Wladimir Sidorenko
9. Abner Mares
10. Yonnhy Perez
Super Bantamweight
1. Israel Vazquez
2. Rafael Marquez
3. Celestino Caballero
4. Juan Manuel Lopez
5. Daniel Ponce De Leon
6. Ricardo Cordoba
7. Jhonny González
8. Lorenzo Parra
9. Poonsawat Kratingdaeng
10. Bernabe Concepcion
Ok Galaxy and I briefly discussed this before, how about in addition to a fighter getting dropped to the pool immediately for being inactive for a year, how about 2 years without a win drops you to the pool as well.
Good. Exceptions for injuries?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I think if someone in the committee feels strongly enough about a specific case we can vote by committee, but after two years without a fight at all it's hard to justify someone keeping a ranking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsGood. Exceptions for injuries?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I just got one more query for now:
If a fighter loses at a different weight than they are ranked would they still drop down a rank?
For example'
The upcoming Darchinyan/ Agbeko fight if Vic loses would it affect his Jr. Bantam rank?
My opinion would be if Darchinyan lost it shouldn't because Agbeko is ranked, but in the case of Mijares who lost to an unranked I think there should be a drop in rating.
Any ideas around this?
My personal opinion is that only fights in a weight class should count in that weight class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm cool with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepMy personal opinion is that only fights in a weight class should count in that weight class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Cool mate, anyone else have some opinions on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyI'm cool with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepMy personal opinion is that only fights in a weight class should count in that weight class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy