Is it coincedence that Donaire is moving up to 115 and Montiel suddenly can no longer make 115? Hmmm... I think that's another ducking by Montiel.
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Is it coincedence that Donaire is moving up to 115 and Montiel suddenly can no longer make 115? Hmmm... I think that's another ducking by Montiel.
Montiel called Donaire out after the Rosas win, Donaire chose to go for Martinez and Montiel decided to take on Silva, Donaire hasn't called out anyone, so go somewhere else with that bullQuote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
Montiel has already fought at Bantam a couple times, tried to make the move up against Gonzalez and well didn't turn out too well that time, IMO he's improved drastically since then, and after basically taking out the Superflyweight division, now see's another opportunity to go up to Bantamweight and win another title in another division, and running from Donaire? it took Nonito 8 rounds to dispose of Maldonado, it took Montiel 3, Montiel is taking on a natural Bantamweight in his next fight, Nonito is taking on a former jr. flyweight champion in Cazares, and is doing so two divisions higher than the one that Cazares was champion at, at super flyweight, also forgot to mention, Calderon, probably the smallest active fighter right now, beat him twice, if Donaire doesn't KO Cazares quick, it's basically as bad as a loss in my eyesQuote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
donaire not stopping cazares quickly would be as bad as a loss? you gotta be kidding. why would nonito need to ko cazares quickly for it to be impressive? a dominant performance over several rounds would be just as good if not better than a quick ko. same way i was impressed with juanma lopez's win over penalosa and not as much with his victory over his previous opponents whom he stopped in 1 rd. besides, cazares and donaire both have fight experience at the heigher weight of superbantam and cazares has been a natural bantamweight long before donaire became one. in fact, one of the reasons cazares had a hard time with calderon was coz he had problems making weight. so, i'd say cazares and nonito are both natural at the weight they would be fighting at and doesn't hold a distinct advantage over the other sizewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
difference is Penalosa was moving up only one division, and had NEVER been hurt before either, Cazares was hurt by Calderon in the first fight, and Calderon is the softest punching fighter today, so if Donaire doesn't manage to do the same it's pretty pathetic reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisserdonaire not stopping cazares quickly would be as bad as a loss? you gotta be kidding. why would nonito need to ko cazares quickly for it to be impressive? a dominant performance over several rounds would be just as good if not better than a quick ko. same way i was impressed with juanma lopez's win over penalosa and not as much with his victory over his previous opponents whom he stopped in 1 rd. besides, cazares and donaire both have fight experience at the heigher weight of superbantam and cazares has been a natural bantamweight long before donaire became one. in fact, one of the reasons cazares had a hard time with calderon was coz he had problems making weight. so, i'd say cazares and nonito are both natural at the weight they would be fighting at and doesn't hold a distinct advantage over the other sizewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
3 of the top 5 boxers in world boxing right now weigh more than 170 pounds.
Doesnt show in the rankings though
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Originally Posted by mad_takamura
Are you guys fukking kidding me? It had everything to do with being disloyal. Shaw made Donaire. And Donaire stabbed him in the back. Shaw gave Donaire his first title shot when he was undeserving and had less than 20 career fights. A main event fight on ShowTime. 4 months later Donaire is back on Show Time defending his title for the first time against Luis Maldonado. His fight was no suppose to be telivised. But Shaw convinced Show Time to show it. I don't know about you. But back to back title fights on ShowTime in 4 months is pretty fukking good expourse. Shaw had big plans for Donaire. But nothing came about. Donaire convinced himself he was a Super Star and thought he was owed everything. Donaire insane demands killed everything. Shaw did his best to try and accommodate Donaire and his outrageous demands. But still no fights could be made. Donaire blamed Shaw. What Donaire failed to realize was that eventhough he beat Darchinyan he was still unknown to everybody but Boxing junkies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
Now that Donaire is no longer with Shaw has his expourse gotten better? Let's see. His last fight was in the Philippines against a decent opponent for chump change. The fight wasn't shown by any of the networks that show Boxing. Under Shaw, Donaire-Martinez would of been on ShowTime or HBO.
nonito doesn't have to ko cazares quickly to be impressive, he only has to put on a dominant performance. last time cazares was stopped was almost 10 years ago. you gotta admit saying nonito not stopping cazares quickly would be just as bad as a loss is foolish and could only come from a hater which i suppose you're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdifference is Penalosa was moving up only one division, and had NEVER been hurt before either, Cazares was hurt by Calderon in the first fight, and Calderon is the softest punching fighter today, so if Donaire doesn't manage to do the same it's pretty pathetic reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisserdonaire not stopping cazares quickly would be as bad as a loss? you gotta be kidding. why would nonito need to ko cazares quickly for it to be impressive? a dominant performance over several rounds would be just as good if not better than a quick ko. same way i was impressed with juanma lopez's win over penalosa and not as much with his victory over his previous opponents whom he stopped in 1 rd. besides, cazares and donaire both have fight experience at the heigher weight of superbantam and cazares has been a natural bantamweight long before donaire became one. in fact, one of the reasons cazares had a hard time with calderon was coz he had problems making weight. so, i'd say cazares and nonito are both natural at the weight they would be fighting at and doesn't hold a distinct advantage over the other sizewise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
and fyi, penalosa although never been stopped has been knocked down before.
Wasn't that a flash knock down? I doubt he was hurt. But i'm not 100% sureQuote:
Originally Posted by KKissernonito doesn't have to ko cazares quickly to be impressive, he only has to put on a dominant performance. last time cazares was stopped was almost 10 years ago. you gotta admit saying nonito not stopping cazares quickly would be just as bad as a loss is foolish and could only come from a hater which i suppose you're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdifference is Penalosa was moving up only one division, and had NEVER been hurt before either, Cazares was hurt by Calderon in the first fight, and Calderon is the softest punching fighter today, so if Donaire doesn't manage to do the same it's pretty pathetic reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
[B]and fyi, penalosa although never been stopped has been knocked down before.[/B]
Cazares has already fought at 115, he was a giant at 108 so its a bit misleading to act as if its a case of Donaire picking on a little guy. Saying he has to KO Cazares quickly for it to be meaningful seems like setting up a guy to fail so you can go look he failed.
I'm not expecting an easy night for Donaire. He'll work for his win.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
elterriblemorales standard for nonito are high but he doesn't have him top 30 p4p. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Has he even finish attempting to make his top 30 p4p? :lolhaha:
epic fail! ;D
Did you see the Vasquez fight VD?
If so how did Cazares look?
No. Still looking for itQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
yup, he was hurt and it was a legitimate kd from cho, although it was at the final seconds of the round so he was able to recover in the next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseWasn't that a flash knock down? I doubt he was hurt. But i'm not 100% sureQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisser