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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Dizaster
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bikersk
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Fenster
Why would Hopkins fight Green? That's not a big money fight in the States. He hasn't even got an alphabet.
Because RJJ signed a fight with Hopkins while negotiating the fight with Green. That would be a huge fight now that Green has KO'd RJJ in 1 round. Green even said during the pre fight negotiations after RJJ and BHOp signed that he should get BHOP's peoples numbers so when he defeats rjj they can negotiate.
Personally i'd love to see B-Hop in there with Green... Would LOVE to see it in Australia..
But Hopkins just has no reason too... Hell, it took freakin forever to get a rematch with Jones that should have happened 10 years ago, so can't see him even considering Green...
Although a win over Roy in any shape or form may put him on the map for at least one decent American fighter before he retires.
After what Hopkins said in the pre fight doco he now has to fight Green.
He said Green needs him, he don't need Green. Well to a certain extent that is still true if the fight is in the USA but now after tonight Hopkins needs Green. I love Hopkins as a fighter but dislike his mouth just like Mundine. Bring on Green V Hopkins.
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Galaxy
Yeah I thought they were trying to tee up a rematch after they fought on the same card recently... is Mundine running away?
Well he's moving down to Junior Middleweight so it would seem so. He's fighting Rob Medley at that weight, not an easy fight but why not a rematch with Geale?
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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bikersk
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Galaxy
Yeah I thought they were trying to tee up a rematch after they fought on the same card recently... is Mundine running away?
Well he's moving down to Junior Middleweight so it would seem so. He's fighting Rob Medley at that weight, not an easy fight but why not a rematch with Geale?
I agree why not fight Geale again? Medley? Didn't Hlatswayo knock him the f*ck out? What a step down...
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Galaxy
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bikersk
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Galaxy
Yeah I thought they were trying to tee up a rematch after they fought on the same card recently... is Mundine running away?
Well he's moving down to Junior Middleweight so it would seem so. He's fighting Rob Medley at that weight, not an easy fight but why not a rematch with Geale?
I agree why not fight Geale again? Medley? Didn't Hlatswayo knock him the f*ck out? What a step down...
Yeah medely first lost to him by UD then TKO so ....................... 2 losses to him.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
What the f*ck is Mundine playing at? He needs to fight Geale, Sturm or Green!
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cant reply to pm but thanks for the video galaxy looked like roy was gone to me after knock down think i gave lacey to much credit based on similar to danny (always thought danny was better fighter then lacey)thought speed was going to be factor but green got him thinking out loud dont think mundinewill touch green at his prefered weight
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davidm231
cant reply to pm but thanks for the video galaxy looked like roy was gone to me after knock down think i gave lacey to much credit based on similar to danny (always thought danny was better fighter then lacey)thought speed was going to be factor but green got him thinking out loud dont think mundine will touch green at his prefered weight
All good mate, hope you stick around
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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bikersk
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Originally Posted by
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bikersk
Yep RJJ was gone. He could not throw a punch after the knock down. He only just got up. RJJ keeps that left down and Danny throws a very very hard right. Fuck you Hopkins you're next!!!!!!
Why would Hopkins fight Green? That's not a big money fight in the States. He hasn't even got an alphabet.
Because RJJ signed a fight with Hopkins while negotiating the fight with Green. That would be a huge fight now that Green has KO'd RJJ in 1 round. Green even said during the pre fight negotiations after RJJ and BHOp signed that he should get BHOP's peoples numbers so when he defeats rjj they can negotiate.
Jones-Hopkins was arranged before this fight because it was a BIG money Las Vegas veterans fight.
Green-Hopkins is NOT a big fight in America. Green offers Hopkins nothing - no big money, no title, no big money!!! There's no chance of Hopkins going to OZ.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
bikersk
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Why would Hopkins fight Green? That's not a big money fight in the States. He hasn't even got an alphabet.
Because RJJ signed a fight with Hopkins while negotiating the fight with Green. That would be a huge fight now that Green has KO'd RJJ in 1 round. Green even said during the pre fight negotiations after RJJ and BHOp signed that he should get BHOP's peoples numbers so when he defeats rjj they can negotiate.
Jones-Hopkins was arranged before this fight because it was a BIG money Las Vegas veterans fight.
Green-Hopkins is NOT a big fight in America. Green offers Hopkins nothing - no big money, no title, no big money!!! There's no chance of Hopkins going to OZ.
Yeah exactly - Green V Hopkins offers nothing but a loss to Hopkins. He called Danny a no-one, Green just proved otherwise. So are you saying Hopkins only fights for the money? Does he want to fight the best to be the best? Green does. Who gives a fuck if the fight is not a big fight in America? He wanted RJJ and assumed he'd win so why wouldn't he want to fight the guy who destroyed him in 1 round?
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
Didn't Hopkins say he never would lose to a white boy. I'd have to say that this would be another loss to a white boy i'm afraid. If Green can keep up intensity to an attack on B-Hop for the duration, he would'nt stick it I don't think. I'd like to see it though for sure. Never seen much of Green but he looked really scary in the weigh-in for RJJ. He genuinely looks like he means business....
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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themacmagician
Didn't Hopkins say he never would lose to a white boy. I'd have to say that this would be another loss to a white boy i'm afraid. If Green can keep up intensity to an attack on B-Hop for the duration, he would'nt stick it I don't think. I'd like to see it though for sure. Never seen much of Green but he looked really scary in the weigh-in for RJJ. He genuinely looks like he means business....
He is the real deal.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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bikersk
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Fenster
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bikersk
Because RJJ signed a fight with Hopkins while negotiating the fight with Green. That would be a huge fight now that Green has KO'd RJJ in 1 round. Green even said during the pre fight negotiations after RJJ and BHOp signed that he should get BHOP's peoples numbers so when he defeats rjj they can negotiate.
Jones-Hopkins was arranged before this fight because it was a BIG money Las Vegas veterans fight.
Green-Hopkins is NOT a big fight in America. Green offers Hopkins nothing - no big money, no title, no big money!!! There's no chance of Hopkins going to OZ.
Yeah exactly - Green V Hopkins offers nothing but a loss to Hopkins. He called Danny a no-one, Green just proved otherwise.
So are you saying Hopkins only fights for the money? Does he want to fight the best to be the best? Green does. Who gives a fuck if the fight is not a big fight in America? He wanted RJJ and assumed he'd win so why wouldn't he want to fight the guy who destroyed him in 1 round?
Exactly. It's all about money.
If Green can offer Hopkins more money stateside than his other limited options then you might see it. But Green doesn't even have a cruiserweight alphabet to help sell it.
Hopkins turned down Adamek because HBO wouldn't give him $2million for it. Chad Dawson isn't worth enough money to Hopkins. They are HBO fighters. Green has a win over a shot-to-bits Roy Jones. It means nothing stateside.
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And remember you are talking about a guy who sparred James Toney when Green was at Super Middle weight and Toney was at heavyweight - Green made Toney stop the session. Youtube it dudes - he is THE MAN!!
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
"Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Beanflicker
Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
So does that mean Green stops him in Round 2,3 or 4?
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Beanflicker
Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).
Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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bikersk
"Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
I was just telling you how it is. Not whether I think it's right or not. Glad you had a nice night ;)
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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bikersk
"Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
I was just telling you how it is. Not whether I think it's right or not. Glad you had a nice night ;)
Just quoting what Danny Green Said to the papers here who said he had no chance- thats all
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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bikersk
"Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
I was just telling you how it is. Not whether I think it's right or not. Glad you had a nice night ;)
Just quoting what Danny Green Said to the papers here who said he had no chance- thats all
I know mate. I was replying to the post you deleted. ;)
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Ok fair enough. Have had a LOT of drinks................. so sorry if i offended anyone, I am feeling full of pride and a bit stupid. That's why i deleted that post. Sorry man.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
Here's a bit clearer Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPLqRJ-UdL0
It did catch him right behind the ear. May not have looked like much, but it sure did make a nasty sound! Jones was really wobbly after he was able to clinch and the ref separated them. Before that he didn't throw any punches back, and many refs would have stopped it then, even though not many from Green were making it through clean. I think the stoppage was OK.
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This thread is hilarious.
I'm glad Green managed to KO Jones, that made my morning.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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themacmagician
Didn't Hopkins say he never would lose to a white boy. I'd have to say that this would be another loss to a white boy i'm afraid. If Green can keep up intensity to an attack on B-Hop for the duration, he would'nt stick it I don't think. I'd like to see it though for sure. Never seen much of Green but he looked really scary in the weigh-in for RJJ. He genuinely looks like he means business....
Mate Hopkins would destroy Danny Green, Green fights in straight lines has no speed, Hopkins would make him look silly It would be a total shut out, just as bad as the Pavlik fight.
Go watch Green against Mundine he was totally confused and embarrased in that fight and that was Mundine.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).
Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.
I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.
Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Originally Posted by
jamiebhoy
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).
Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.
I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.
Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.
As long as you don't overrate Green off the Roy Jones win and completely neglect all of his other fights then you shouldn't have a problem.
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I think Bhop was right on the money when he said if these Aussies want to play for real come over and jump into the deep end of the pool with the real belts being contended. Come to America fight your way up like everyone else does or talk to the hand cause we dont need you.
That should be a good wake up call to all Australian boxers!
I agree we are like the second division down here and only the cream that risies to the top gets any attention at all but with no real substance behind it.
We may as well make a ABO belt and stay at home for what 98% of our fighters are worth on the world view.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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jamiebhoy
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Originally Posted by
miles
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Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).
Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.
I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.
Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.
Youre right about Choc,lazy and also obsessed with fame and adulation; but you know what: if it was out of him at his best and Green at his best fighting Bhop I would sooner watch him over Green just on the style of fight it could produce.
I've never bought into the glass jaw talk about Mundine; not off that obvious temple shot and his stupidity in posing and turning his head open like he did. He got what was comming to him, is all. Choc must hate his own stupidity every day over that, I recon it would haunt him, he was ahead and could of boxed to a win and what he has always wanted he could of had right then and there.
If he was a real Champ he would of packed up shop, reorgnized his self and headed for the real action.
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Re: Jones V Green RBR u want?
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Originally Posted by
Majesty
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Originally Posted by
jamiebhoy
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Originally Posted by
miles
That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).
Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.
I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.
Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.
As long as you don't overrate Green off the Roy Jones win and completely neglect all of his other fights then you shouldn't have a problem.
I have no problem with that at all, I am not a flag waving die hard nationalist blinded by country loyalties. I know Green ain't all that, all I am saying is that neither should he be written off , he is a tough bloke with albeit limited skills but will put you to sleep if you get tagged.
On paper Hopkins either takes him out or gives him a real one sided 12 round ass kicking........but then the same was said of Jones.
Green needs to get his ass on a plane , make some noise stateside while he has the rise in profile for now and start making a nuisance of himself to get a big fight. Hopefully Jones will prove not to be a fluke.
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
jamiebhoy
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Originally Posted by
miles
That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).
Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.
I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.
Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.
Youre right about Choc,lazy and also obsessed with fame and adulation; but you know what: if it was out of him at his best and Green at his best fighting Bhop I would sooner watch him over Green just on the style of fight it could produce.
I've never bought into the glass jaw talk about Mundine; not off that obvious temple shot and his stupidity in posing and turning his head open like he did. He got what was comming to him, is all. Choc must hate his own stupidity every day over that, I recon it would haunt him, he was ahead and could of boxed to a win and what he has always wanted he could of had right then and there.
If he was a real Champ he would of packed up shop, reorgnized his self and headed for the real action.
Spot on mate, Mundine if he decided to get his ass in gear would be a more interesting fight against Hopkins. I think he should and may start calling out some names, it will really piss off his ego that Green has a bigger name on his record regardless of Jones' age etc etc.
Choc only stays at home because it's the only place he will get any press and as anu of the Aussie lads will know he takes bad or good, it's all the same to him.
Maybe he should have gone back to league last season !! pisses me off to see talent abused.Like hatton who farts about getting out of shape instead of becoming a bigger name than he did. In the long term he would never have been ATG but would at least be remembered for more than two big ass kickings.
