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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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JonesJrMayweather
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Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Which only makes the point I was making valid. Most people don't distinguish the two and use them interchangeably.
Right.. but they are using the term incorrectly.
If I say I hate all white fighters and would never cheer for them. That means i'm a racist.
If I say I hate all British fighters and would never cheer for them. That means i'm prejudice towards Brits, because obviously Britsh fighters encompass all different ethnicities.
I agree. But i was trying to address why hopkins thinks the way he does. Because believe it or not the casual boxing fan is as ignorant as bhop.
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luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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El Kabong
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Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Fenster
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El Kabong
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Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Fenster
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Fenster
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
Now you're just being a dick ;D
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Fenster
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killersheep
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Fenster
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
Don't you have some chimneys to clean?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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killersheep
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Fenster
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
Now you're just being a dick ;D
No i'm not..
Did I say something that didn't make sense? (maybe i'm drunk)
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Fenster
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killersheep
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
Now you're just being a dick ;D
No i'm not..
Did I say something that didn't make sense? (maybe i'm drunk)
What does that have to do with being a dick?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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killersheep
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Fenster
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
luvfightgame is 100% right. Prejudice gets confused with racism, especially on this site, all the time. There are lots of people on here that show a blatant prejudice against British fighters but do not come across as racist.
Well British isn't a race, I mean Ricky Hatton, Amir Khan, and Derek Chisora are hardly of the same race but all are British.
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
He was making the exact same point as you :confused:
:vd:
Genius. Fact.
Now you're just being a dick ;D
No i'm not..
Did I say something that didn't make sense? (maybe i'm drunk)
What does that have to do with being a dick?
:lol:
You da man sheep, you da MAN!!!!! :cool:
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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BHop's lack of vocabulary and intelligence just means he's wondering when will pacman face a slick boxer, seeing as how they kept him away from Zahir Raheem after Raheem clearly schooled Morrales. They chose to face the obviously faded and done Morrales.
Raheem scored an upset on Morales. Morales had beaten Manny 10 months prior to their rematch. I am not sure what makes you think a fighter gets old overnight. Why would Manny not want to avenge his loss against the fighter who handed him the defeat? Would it have answered more questions if he fought Raheem?
Sometimes, I swear, Manny Pacquiao can do NO right in people's book. Let it go, man. He's only human, and his promoters set up the fights.
So I guess we should all say Manny "ducked" Raheem? :p Also, He also hates black people everywhere and uses PEDs.
To Bernard Hopkins:
You wanna know why Manny hasn't had to fight a black guy in so long? (sure whatever Clottey doesn't count) Because all the Mexicans beat up the blacks in the lower weights. And Manny beats up the Mexicans. It's the food chain.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos. It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
neutral,
are you accusing me of being a racist just because i believe philippine boxing isn't very good with the exception of pacquiao? i think you're being too thin skinned. it's my opinion, i didn't say anything about race didn't i? grow a pair why don't ya!
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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JonnyFolds
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
BHop's lack of vocabulary and intelligence just means he's wondering when will pacman face a slick boxer, seeing as how they kept him away from Zahir Raheem after Raheem clearly schooled Morrales. They chose to face the obviously faded and done Morrales.
Raheem scored an upset on Morales. Morales had beaten Manny 10 months prior to their rematch. I am not sure what makes you think a fighter gets old overnight. Why would Manny not want to avenge his loss against the fighter who handed him the defeat? Would it have answered more questions if he fought Raheem?
Sometimes, I swear, Manny Pacquiao can do NO right in people's book. Let it go, man. He's only human, and his promoters set up the fights.
So I guess we should all say Manny "ducked" Raheem? :p Also, He also hates black people everywhere and uses PEDs.
To Bernard Hopkins:
You wanna know why Manny hasn't had to fight a black guy in so long? (sure whatever Clottey doesn't count) Because all the Mexicans beat up the blacks in the lower weights. And Manny beats up the Mexicans. It's the food chain.
Hopkins is talking about a black american, not a african. He's basically saying a slick american style fighter.
What black american fighter was beaten up at the lower weights by a mexican that pacquiao faced in this silly food chain you speak of?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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ICB
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
If what raheem did against Morrales was "running", then I've lost all understanding of what people think "boxing" is....
"He just kept hitting me and moving away" - Erik Morrales after the Raheem fight.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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JonesJrMayweather
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ICB
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
If what raheem did against Morrales was "running", then I've lost all understanding of what people think "boxing" is....
"He just kept hitting me and moving away" - Erik Morrales after the Raheem fight.
I wasn't on about that fight speficially, i was on about his career as a whole. I appreciate good boxing, which is why im a fan of Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr.
But ask anyone about Zahir Raheem, and see what response you get. I did actually enjoy i think 2 fights of Zahir Raheem's, one of his early fights when he got floored few times and he comeback to win, and another one but i forget the opponents name.
But as i said you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales, it made sense to fight Erik Morales regarding legacy and money wise. Aswell as making him a real household name.
I don't really think he would of got any credit for beating Zahir Raheem, and it would of been a terrible fight to watch. And with hindsight Erik Morales did give us a FOTY candidate vs Manny Pacquiao in there 2nd fight, so im not complaining.
Plus wasn't Manny Pacquiao still at Super Featherweight ? and Zahir Raheem at Lightweight ?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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ICB
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
Hows the swimming going mate?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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ICB
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JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
If what raheem did against Morrales was "running", then I've lost all understanding of what people think "boxing" is....
"He just kept hitting me and moving away" - Erik Morrales after the Raheem fight.
I wasn't on about that fight speficially, i was on about his career as a whole. I appreciate good boxing, which is why im a fan of Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr.
But ask anyone about Zahir Raheem, and see what response you get. I did actually enjoy i think 2 fights of Zahir Raheem's, one of his early fights when he got floored few times and he comeback to win, and another one but i forget the opponents name.
But as i said you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales, it made sense to fight Erik Morales regarding legacy and money wise. Aswell as making him a real household name.
I don't really think he would of got any credit for beating Zahir Raheem, and it would of been a terrible fight to watch. And with hindsight Erik Morales did give us a FOTY candidate vs Manny Pacquiao in there 2nd fight, so im not complaining.
Plus wasn't Manny Pacquiao still at Super Featherweight ? and Zahir Raheem at Lightweight ?
What I find funny is that Manny gets so much credit for beating Morrales, while Raheem gets zero. when he did it before Manny. Raheem and Morrales fought at 135. But just before that fight Raheem faced Juarez at 130 and beat him too but the same texas team that robbed Paulie against Diaz robbed Raheem against juarez. Don't see why a fight between Manny and Raheem couldn't have been made.
I mean tyson and holy were supposed to fight a mega fight, but Douglass kayoed Tyson so Holyfield fought Douglass. Makes sense to me unless its all about money first in which yeah I understand. But if its about beating the tougher opponent then Raheem should have been the guy that earned his shot.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
If what raheem did against Morrales was "running", then I've lost all understanding of what people think "boxing" is....
"He just kept hitting me and moving away" - Erik Morrales after the Raheem fight.
I wasn't on about that fight speficially, i was on about his career as a whole. I appreciate good boxing, which is why im a fan of Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr.
But ask anyone about Zahir Raheem, and see what response you get. I did actually enjoy i think 2 fights of Zahir Raheem's, one of his early fights when he got floored few times and he comeback to win, and another one but i forget the opponents name.
But as i said you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales, it made sense to fight Erik Morales regarding legacy and money wise. Aswell as making him a real household name.
I don't really think he would of got any credit for beating Zahir Raheem, and it would of been a terrible fight to watch. And with hindsight Erik Morales did give us a FOTY candidate vs Manny Pacquiao in there 2nd fight, so im not complaining.
Plus wasn't Manny Pacquiao still at Super Featherweight ? and Zahir Raheem at Lightweight ?
What I find funny is that Manny gets so much credit for beating Morrales, while Raheem gets zero. when he did it before Manny. Raheem and Morrales fought at 135. But just before that fight Raheem faced Juarez at 130 and beat him too but the same texas team that robbed Paulie against Diaz robbed Raheem against juarez. Don't see why a fight between Manny and Raheem couldn't have been made.
I mean tyson and holy were supposed to fight a mega fight, but Douglass kayoed Tyson so Holyfield fought Douglass. Makes sense to me unless its all about money first in which yeah I understand. But if its about beating the tougher opponent then Raheem should have been the guy that earned his shot.
I give Zahir Raheem credit for beating Erik Morales, that wasn't what i was saying. I meant it made more sense for a rematch with Erik Morales to happen. I wasn't taking any credit away from Zahir Raheem.
But Manny Pacquiao had a great chance to revenge his defeat to Erik Morales, plus he would get alot of fame and money. Where as fighting Zahir Raheem would of been forgettable encounter.
Plus Manny Pacquiao didn't even fight at 135 until 2008, you can't expect him too move up when he's got bigger fights at his own weightclasses JMM, MAB, Erik Morales.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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ICB
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JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Yes i agree Erik Morales did look totally shot against Zahir Raheem, infact he looked terrible. But you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales. He's a bigger name, he wanted to revenge his loss, more money, exciting, ETC.
Zahir Raheem is/was a total runner, if he would of fought Manny Pacquiao. He would of been the running man, and it would of been a terrible fight. Hell even though Erik Morales was past it, he still gave a very good showing in the 2nd fight.
A hell of alot more effort, than Zahir Raheem could ever dream of.
If what raheem did against Morrales was "running", then I've lost all understanding of what people think "boxing" is....
"He just kept hitting me and moving away" - Erik Morrales after the Raheem fight.
I wasn't on about that fight speficially, i was on about his career as a whole. I appreciate good boxing, which is why im a fan of Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr.
But ask anyone about Zahir Raheem, and see what response you get. I did actually enjoy i think 2 fights of Zahir Raheem's, one of his early fights when he got floored few times and he comeback to win, and another one but i forget the opponents name.
But as i said you can't blame Manny Pacquiao for fighting Erik Morales, it made sense to fight Erik Morales regarding legacy and money wise. Aswell as making him a real household name.
I don't really think he would of got any credit for beating Zahir Raheem, and it would of been a terrible fight to watch. And with hindsight Erik Morales did give us a FOTY candidate vs Manny Pacquiao in there 2nd fight, so im not complaining.
Plus wasn't Manny Pacquiao still at Super Featherweight ? and Zahir Raheem at Lightweight ?
What I find funny is that Manny gets so much credit for beating Morrales, while Raheem gets zero. when he did it before Manny. Raheem and Morrales fought at 135. But just before that fight Raheem faced Juarez at 130 and beat him too but the same texas team that robbed Paulie against Diaz robbed Raheem against juarez. Don't see why a fight between Manny and Raheem couldn't have been made.
I mean tyson and holy were supposed to fight a mega fight, but Douglass kayoed Tyson so Holyfield fought Douglass. Makes sense to me unless its all about money first in which yeah I understand. But if its about beating the tougher opponent then Raheem should have been the guy that earned his shot.
I give Zahir Raheem credit for beating Erik Morales, that wasn't what i was saying. I meant it made more sense for a rematch with Erik Morales to happen. I wasn't taking any credit away from Zahir Raheem.
But Manny Pacquiao had a great chance to revenge his defeat to Erik Morales, plus he would get alot of fame and money. Where as fighting Zahir Raheem would of been forgettable encounter.
Plus Manny Pacquiao didn't even fight at 135 until 2008, you can't expect him too move up when he's got bigger fights at his own weightclasses JMM, MAB, Erik Morales.
hilarious considering after all of that was done, he moved up past casamayor and campbell to "bigger" fights (david diaz) I guess bigger means more money, easier opponents. Or rather tailor made opponents.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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milmascaras1
neutral,
are you accusing me of being a racist just because i believe philippine boxing isn't very good with the exception of pacquiao? i think you're being too thin skinned. it's my opinion, i didn't say anything about race didn't i? grow a pair why don't ya!
Yes I do believe he's calling you a racist. Frankly I wouldn't take that if I were you.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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milmascaras1
neutral,
are you accusing me of being a racist just because i believe philippine boxing isn't very good with the exception of pacquiao? i think you're being too thin skinned. it's my opinion, i didn't say anything about race didn't i? grow a pair why don't ya!
Did you see me mention anything about racism in my post? Is that what you think it is? Then you must be guilty.
You have a right to express your opinion but I, also, have a right to ask the point of your opinion. If you don't want to answer it, then don't. Why be defensive? I am just asking as to what is the point of demeaning a country's sport in this forum. Don't you think that you're insulting the whole country?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
Last time I looked Clottey was a black fighter.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.
and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.
and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...
and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
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Violent Demise
Like the homie O said,
Pac got no problem fighting Africans . He gave Dominicans a try. But he got his ass whooped and almost started to cry. So he never went back. Thus the ducking of Joan Guzman.
He hasn't attempted Cubans or African Americans at all, at least not anyone we know. Picking David Diaz over Joel Casamayor and Nate Campbell (the real Champions) was just shameful. His fanbase excuse doesn't even work there. Both clearly trump David fukkin Diaz.
It must really be hard on you that another ES-A joined the victim list. :D
Must be hard on you that a juiced up Flipa is all you got. Oh the list of fails is long. Nonito Donaire is a sham. Rey Bautista transformed into Rey Bumtista. Marvin Sonsona turned out to be a joke. Z Gorress can't even spell his first name any more. Bernabe Concepcion is crap. Donnie Nietes is overrated. Aj Banal has no heart. And Ciso Morales sure did live up to his name Kid Terrible when he crashed and burned in 2 minutes. Damn. It really does suck when Rodel Mayol is the 2nd best fighter ya'll got. :LOLATYOU:
Still a bitter racist pig VD?
Till the day i die.
I mean no. Course not
VD is no racist, how dare we accuse this man of such.
The man is too retarded to know how to be racist.
Quality over Quantity buddy, I dont give a damn if no other filipino gets a title belt. We got the G.O.A.T.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
I'd actually be more interested in Manny Pacquiao fighting the winner of Timothy Bradley/Devon Alexander, or Andre Berto. Than someone like Shane Mosley or my boy JMM, i can see Berto or Bradley giving Manny Pacquiao atleast some problems.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.
and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...
and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.
And you forgot to mention floyd's been a champ for 12 years.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
:::PSL:::
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17. He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
You forgot to menton Floyd's 6 losses as amateur.
and you forgot to mention his 80+ victories and pac's losses as a pro...
and you forgot to mention Pac has 11 more victories than him as a pro.
And you forgot to mention floyd's been a champ for 12 years.
and you forgot to mention he's part time fighter and temporary retired for almost 2 years.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
Hopkins: "When Will Pacquiao Face a Top Black Fighter?" - Boxing News
The article is about how Hopkins says that
Pac don't fight top black fighters, as in African Americans with that slick style. You know like the Ray Leonard style that B-Hop was talking about.
BTW, just in case someone brings up Lebwaba and
Clottey, they aren't african americans. And I think when B-Hop is talking about a top black fighter, he means black american.
I think the word "top" excludes Clottey even if he is as black as they come. He's Ghanaian btw for the person who said he was Nigerian.
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
Cotto destroyed Chop Corley, Judah and beat Mosely(Inner City Blacks).
Cotto losed to Pac, can that be counted?
Wtf is an Inner City Black, you know where Shane Mosley is from? I'll give you a hint, it ain't the ghetto. Retard ;D
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Originally Posted by miles
This was racist
Considering that you get so worked up about people throwing ideas of racism about on other threads Miles, it's quite interesting that you think this is racist. It's stupid & shows Hopkins up for the knob he is, but there's nothing racist about it. I think Memphis' post pretty much sums it up. Unless Hopkins is angling for a fight with Pac at a catchweight. Which I wouldn't put past him :-X
Yes, the Calzaghe comment was quite racist, this one was more ignorance and stupidity. That's right. Hopkins/Pac at a catchweight. Haha, what a freak show! ;D
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
Wow! This thread sure has brought out some raw emotions in people. Well, if there's anything we can all agree on, it's the following:
1. Hopkins is an ATG middleweight, but he says some pretty idiotic things. Is he racist? Maybe. Then again, maybe he just says those stupid things to create controversy and piss people off. Is he a jackass? Pretty much. Hopkins fans need to get a grip. He might be an ATG, but he's still an idiot.
2. We got a lot of hardcore nationalistic fans on this forum (count me among them). That's not a BAD thing, well.... it IS when it interferes with your objectiveness. Of course, I don't let that happen to me. I'm ALWAYS objective (ha ha).
3. Some countries just have a better boxing history and record than others. That's just a fact. Nothing personal, nothing racist about it. Just a plain fact. Like Brazil having the best soccer history in the World Cup. You know... stuff like that. Facts are facts.
and finally...
4. This place is a lot more fun when there's a lot of arguing and trash-talking going on.
;D :cool:
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17.
He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
That's why we should appreciate what Manny has done until it last. Other excellent and great boxers will rise after Pacquiao fades but there will only be one MANNY PACQUIAO.
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Re: B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
titleist,
i'm not saying there will no longer be any pinoy boxers. what i'm saying is philippine boxing will go back once again into total obscurity. aside from pacquiao, the only other good fighter you have is nonito donaire and the very overrated donnie nietes, who only fights bums. since he got a gift decision over manuel vargas, who has this guy fought? exactly!
all the other "next pacquiao's" have been total busts. so tell me, what current boxers are going to step up and become the next world champions? that's why i wrote for you to enjoy pacman while you still have him cause when he's gone, philippine boxing practically disappears! :)
What's the point in bringing up the country?
Pacquiao is for the boxing fans to enjoy, not just Filipinos.
It may take some time before someone of Pacman's caliber comes along and it may not even be in our lifetime.
It's comments like that, the reason that people want to see him lose.
Pacquiao already lose 3 times so it won't be something new.
The guy went through 8 different weight divisions and that's no easy feat. Do you forsee anybody doing that anytime soon even with the use of a catchweight? Take note that I wrote there that "it
may not even be in our lfetime", which implies that I'm not 100% sure. And to think that Manny still appears to be in his prime nearing age 32 when a number of boxers had been considered to be on the downturn in their late 20's.
He started when he was 17, most fighters from well developed countries when they are that age they're amateur and training for the olympics. Floyd won gold gloves at 16 when he was the same size as pac. 106lbs...
Yeah so in that light, yeah its possible that because most countries dont have their young talents thrown into professional fighting at 17.
He may well be one of the last.
But from age 16-17 floyd mayweather has gone up the same amount of weight.
That's why we should appreciate what Manny has done until it last. Other excellent and great boxers will rise after Pacquiao fades but there will only be one MANNY PACQUIAO.
There will only be one of any fighter. It just means that his country may start to develop younger fighters as amateurs and form an olympic boxing team. And they wont have to worry about being kayoed as teenagers.
