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"GGG would knock me out" stated Billy Joe Saunders .
"However" he continued.
"boxing is about levels, we all know that ,and I do hold a win over Eubank Jr lets not forget that!"
"GGG is a great fighter and champion"
Saunders is weak minded and that statement will come back to haunt him should he beat Lee.
Weak minded yes , strong minded and talented enough to beat the likes of Eubank - yes.
Saunders is realistic and honest and should be applauded for being truthful, Who believes Junior when he says he wants to fight GGG?
all that might be true
not something that draws the crowds tho and gets people talking
i think saunders is a good fighter, hard to beat, very technical and i hope he does well, but im not rushing out to buy tickets for his world title fight thats taking place on my doorstep
whats the point? its not a real world title fight because as he states himself he would lose to teh real world champion
Imagine Warrens dilema should Saunders get a Golovkin fight.
Would he even bother trying to win the purse bid and get it in the UK? No he wouldnt because he knows those interviews where Saunders states multiple times hed get knocked out by Golovkin, or Golovkin would beat Saunders and Eubank in the same night would be played over and over in the media, social media, forums etc. it would kill any interest dead.
Saunders has made it very hard for himself to ever be considered the best now. I think he could be a difficult opponent for Golovkin but is he going to be a saleable opponent now? Is he fuck! Even Golovkins team will be hoping they dont have to deal with him because no one would have any interest in that fight.
Eubank however will become a great opponent. Hes just like his dad at the moment. Some people think hes exciting and dont want to miss his fights. Others think hes arrogant and cant miss seeing him get beaten. Hes generating interest, unlike Saunders who who people are applauding for having no belief, pulling out of fights and taking step aside money.
Very long and Concisely put point. But fights are fought in the ring and although you're clearly more interested in the hype and talk that surrounds it ,
it's what happens in the ring that counts. And so far, what happened in the ring was that Saunders beat Eubank and Saunders knows that at the moment neither he or "Cwistopher" are anywhere near GGG's level.
Seeing as he beat Eubank, I think he's a pretty decent judge of that.
you know what mate, that just isnt true
saunders beat eubank recently
eubank probably already earns more money than saunders
eubank beats saunders out of the ring every day
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Re: O'Sullivan - Eubank (WBA full title eliminator) on Joshua - Whyte undercard
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Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
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Primo Carnera
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
From 17 stone 5 to 12 stone nearly. Im 12 stone 4 at the mo, but im not fighting till December 7th in Malta.
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
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Re: O'Sullivan - Eubank (WBA full title eliminator) on Joshua - Whyte undercard
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ross
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Primo Carnera
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.
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and boxed two lads in between that one had 100 fights and other was 12-0 and is turning pro soon.
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Eubank Junior is going to go on and on about Golovkin like his dad did about Roy Jones with about as much chance of him fighting Golovkin as there was of his dad fighting Jones. He's still a work in progress and there's no guarantee he'll even be able to mix it at world level yet. If he actually manages to beat two or three guys of the Lee/Quillin/Lemieux level then he's worth putting in with Golovkin. He won't do better than anybody else has though.
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Re: O'Sullivan - Eubank (WBA full title eliminator) on Joshua - Whyte undercard
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.
Former pros doesnt really mean a great deal. What sort of level did they mix in? Thats the important bit. Ok the Turkish national fighter and the lad with over 300 bouts, they have experience but there are amateur lads here in Guernsey with over 60 bouts but they are still losing to lads with less than half their bouts. Some lads just love boxing but they are no better than mediocre. Mediocre doesnt mean bad or terrible! It just means they are average in the big scheme of things when you judge against someone of a top level.
Im not trying to offend you Tam but any of those lads in white collar if they were to face Eubank as shit as he is they would have their ears boxed off.
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Tam Seddon
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.
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ross
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Primo Carnera
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Originally Posted by
Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Well last couple of guys I boxed were former pros. One boxed for the Turkish National team and had over 200 fights for them and last lad I boxed has had over 300 fights. Both good standard.
Former pros doesnt really mean a great deal. What sort of level did they mix in? Thats the important bit. Ok the Turkish national fighter and the lad with over 300 bouts, they have experience but there are amateur lads here in Guernsey with over 60 bouts but they are still losing to lads with less than half their bouts. Some lads just love boxing but they are no better than mediocre. Mediocre doesnt mean bad or terrible! It just means they are average in the big scheme of things when you judge against someone of a top level.
Im not trying to offend you Tam but any of those lads in white collar if they were to face Eubank as shit as he is they would have their ears boxed off.
Of course they would , that's why we aren't pro and never claim we ever will be or will ever get close to that level. The next guy I'm fighting in Malta is pretty good. It's not white collar it's semi pro, I get paid for this. No head guards or vests anymore. I'm pretty sure I'm doing 6x2 min rounds for this next fight too.
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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Primo Carnera
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Originally Posted by
Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.
You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.
I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.
Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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Primo Carnera
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Tam Seddon
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ross
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Originally Posted by
Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.
You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.
I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.
Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?
" Definition of mediocre in English:
adjective
Of only average quality; not very good:"
A bit arrogant to start talking about Tam's opponents like that considering you don't know them and the fact that you used your analogy about them not standing a chance against Cwistopher proves my point that all you're interested in is the hype and bullshit merchants, nobody said they would stand a chance , what exactly was your point?
I'm certainly not "in awe of every boxer" , like I want to lick their ass. I just respect them for challenging themselves.
The only person in awe of , or starstruck here is you. The way you go on about your 2 favourite bum chums is embarrassing considering their lack of achievements to date.
As for the "low level fighters" you mention, you know The "minions", the "ne'er do well's"? they don't need any Awards from me because they don't do it for that, they do it for themselves.
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ross
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ross
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Primo Carnera
Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.
You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.
I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.
Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?
" Definition of mediocre in English:
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Of only average quality; not very good:"
A bit arrogant to start talking about Tam's opponents like that considering you don't know them and the fact that you used your analogy about them not standing a chance against Cwistopher proves my point that all you're interested in is the hype and bullshit merchants, nobody said they would stand a chance , what exactly was your point?
I'm certainly not "in awe of every boxer" , like I want to lick their ass. I just respect them for challenging themselves.
The only person in awe of , or starstruck here is you. The way you go on about your 2 favourite bum chums is embarrassing considering their lack of achievements to date.
As for the "low level fighters" you mention, you know The "minions", the "ne'er do well's"? they don't need any Awards from me because they don't do it for that, they do it for themselves.
Pro low level fighters do it to earn money:rolleyes:
If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?
Eubank is improving.
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Belief will take you so far........but a lot else needs to happen. Still , you keep believing in him if you like , while I'll stick to what ACTUALLY HAPPENS. ������
So you are willing to judge the future of his career on one fight?
So those other fighters I me tioned, their careers should be judged on those losses? Hopkins lost to a journeyman in his first fight.
Even Tam who liked your post has lost to some mediocre fighters. Does that mean Tam couldnt improve and beat them after more experience or go on to have an impressive resume?
I was in the wrong weight class, coming from cruiserweight to supermiddleweight will benefit me highly.
Can you not see my point though?
You were relaively inexperienced as was Eubank. Eubank came very close to beating Saunders and one odf the judges though he did. With more experience he can improve and beat Saunders. Im sure even with the weight dissparity you could face those same fighters and beat them.
My problem was I was too small in a big division. Ive done better and will do better at 12 stone. But still fighting good level fighters.
What baffles me is How does Ross know that they were mediocre fighters? much respect to you Tam, just for getting down to 12 stone regardless of how you do. ;D
White collar boxers? Check em out. They are just ticket sellers and income generators for enterprising trainers/budding promoters. Im sure Tam would agree most wouldnt even reach regional amateur
Tournament level, let alone get in the finals of the regionals.
Mate, I'm gonna try to be very polite here and I'm gonna try not to be a smarmy prick.
When you talk like that , you sound really disrespectful. I respect and admire and am a bit jealous of anyone who's been between the ropes.
Boxing makes you push your limits and challenge yourself like no other sport , both physically and mentally. And at some levels, you may not win, but if you come out of there after all the work you put in before and during the fight and look in the mirror and know you couldn't do any more, then you can be immensely proud and that's what it's about. All these white collar guys, amateurs, semi pro's , journeymen pro's mean as much as the Floyd and Pac's of this world.
I had a disagreement with britkid the other day, he felt that if money wasn't your main priority, you shouldn't be allowed to box. I reckon if money IS your main priority maybe you shouldn't be allowed to box.
What I'm trying to say is , follow the hype if you like , we all do to a certain degree, but don't let it deflect from what goes on in the ring.
Sorry to make this post sound like some sort of Hollywood speech.
You only think im being disrespectful because you have no idea or experience of what it feels like to compete as a boxer and are in total awe of anyone who does and believe everyone should recieve praise and admiration.
I respect all fighters but the fact is, some are mediocre. Its not disrespectfull. I never got the chance to prove myself above mediocre and would not take any offence at being described as such.
Maybe you could introduce the "Primo award for participation" for all those low level fighters?
" Definition of mediocre in English:
adjective
Of only average quality; not very good:"
A bit arrogant to start talking about Tam's opponents like that considering you don't know them and the fact that you used your analogy about them not standing a chance against Cwistopher proves my point that all you're interested in is the hype and bullshit merchants, nobody said they would stand a chance , what exactly was your point?
I'm certainly not "in awe of every boxer" , like I want to lick their ass. I just respect them for challenging themselves.
The only person in awe of , or starstruck here is you. The way you go on about your 2 favourite bum chums is embarrassing considering their lack of achievements to date.
As for the "low level fighters" you mention, you know The "minions", the "ne'er do well's"? they don't need any Awards from me because they don't do it for that, they do it for themselves.
1.Pro low level fighters do it to earn money:rolleyes:
2.If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?
3. Eubank is improving.
1. Yes, but it is supplemented usually by a job, it is not their priority , some know they'll never make it, they love the sport as well.
2. Clearly one judge got it wrong, it happens. They clearly got carried away with Eubank's wild haymakers that were all missing. Richie Woodhall was ringside for Radio 5 and he called it for Eubank. Later, when he was on the telly and had re watched it, he changed his mind. Like I say , it happens, but The important thing is 2 got it right. Tell me , do you think Canelo drew with Floyd?
3. You do know Eubank and Saunders are the same age, don't you? Why should he improve any more than Saunders?
I'm sure you won't see it like this, but then again, when have you ever let facts get in the way of a good hype and bullshit story? ;D
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You could actually see Eubank getting a GGG shot because of his name, it would be great if GGG came to the UK for the first time and ruined Eubank. Although im praying on Spike doing that first
why would you want eubank to lose?
hes a charactor, there is a bit of excitement around him and its enjoyable
if he lost badly and faded as a result who would be have to be excited about? fury? BJS? David Haye?
Id be excited about a lot of upcoming UK fighters who you haven't mentioned there and I couldn't give one about Jnr.
I'm with you on this Tam. You can get excited about Campbell, the Smiths, both Selby's now,Quigg, Frampton, Warrington, Brook, Eggington, the list goes on, and Not one of them has said things like "my trainer is only there to apply Vaseline, if I'm doing something wrong , I know it and I can put it right!"
That is just one small example of the horseshit this halfwit comes out with.
His old man talks quite a bit of crap, but he's already backed it up in spade loads and earned the right to do so.
This fucker has yet to do fucking anything!
i dont think any of those fighters you mention are as electrfying in the ring as eubank
i like all of them, none throw the combination power punches that eubank does and i like all of them outside of the ring, but non get my attention like eubank
Well each to their own I suppose. We obviously like different things in our fighters. My preference is for good un-deluded fighters that don't disrespect their trainers amongst others and do their talking mostly in the ring.
In a nutshell , Boxers not Blaggers.😉
Yet you are here talking about him.
Eubank is doing his job well.
Hes only fighting an obscure irish journeyman yet this is quite a busy thread compared to an Lee v Saunders threads. In fact right now the last thread involving the Lee v Saunders fight is on page 9!!!
So much for your respect for these fighters. Clearly people have no interest in those boring fighters.
Someone might now to make a point start another or revive an old thread about Lee or Saunders but the amount of threads involving Eubank jr over the first 9 pages proves Eubank is built for the pros and making money.
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1.Pro low level fighters do it to earn money:rolleyes:
2.If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?
3. Eubank is improving.
1. Yes, but it is supplemented usually by a job, it is not their priority , some know they'll never make it, they love the sport as well.
2. Clearly one judge got it wrong, it happens. They clearly got carried away with Eubank's wild haymakers that were all missing. Richie Woodhall was ringside for Radio 5 and he called it for Eubank. Later, when he was on the telly and had re watched it, he changed his mind. Like I say , it happens, but The important thing is 2 got it right. Tell me , do you think Canelo drew with Floyd?
3. You do know Eubank and Saunders are the same age, don't you? Why should he improve any more than Saunders?
I'm sure you won't see it like this, but then again, when have you ever let facts get in the way of a good hype and bullshit story? ;D
Are you for real?
You really honestly think that experience comes from age!!?
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You could actually see Eubank getting a GGG shot because of his name, it would be great if GGG came to the UK for the first time and ruined Eubank. Although im praying on Spike doing that first
why would you want eubank to lose?
hes a charactor, there is a bit of excitement around him and its enjoyable
if he lost badly and faded as a result who would be have to be excited about? fury? BJS? David Haye?
Id be excited about a lot of upcoming UK fighters who you haven't mentioned there and I couldn't give one about Jnr.
I'm with you on this Tam. You can get excited about Campbell, the Smiths, both Selby's now,Quigg, Frampton, Warrington, Brook, Eggington, the list goes on, and Not one of them has said things like "my trainer is only there to apply Vaseline, if I'm doing something wrong , I know it and I can put it right!"
That is just one small example of the horseshit this halfwit comes out with.
His old man talks quite a bit of crap, but he's already backed it up in spade loads and earned the right to do so.
This fucker has yet to do fucking anything!
i dont think any of those fighters you mention are as electrfying in the ring as eubank
i like all of them, none throw the combination power punches that eubank does and i like all of them outside of the ring, but non get my attention like eubank
Well each to their own I suppose. We obviously like different things in our fighters. My preference is for good un-deluded fighters that don't disrespect their trainers amongst others and do their talking mostly in the ring.
In a nutshell , Boxers not Blaggers.😉
Yet you are here talking about him.
Eubank is doing his job well.
Hes only fighting an obscure irish journeyman yet this is quite a busy thread compared to an Lee v Saunders threads. In fact right now the last thread involving the Lee v Saunders fight is on page 9!!!
So much for your respect for these fighters. Clearly people have no interest in those boring fighters.
Someone might now to make a point start another or revive an old thread about Lee or Saunders but the amount of threads involving Eubank jr over the first 9 pages proves Eubank is built for the pros and making money.
Take out your posts and the replies to your nonsense and I can't see much difference. We proved this before Ross , when you didn't post on a Fury thread for 2 days, and nobody else did. Come on Ross, get with the programme!:rolleyes:
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1.Pro low level fighters do it to earn money:rolleyes:
2.If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?
3. Eubank is improving.
1. Yes, but it is supplemented usually by a job, it is not their priority , some know they'll never make it, they love the sport as well.
2. Clearly one judge got it wrong, it happens. They clearly got carried away with Eubank's wild haymakers that were all missing. Richie Woodhall was ringside for Radio 5 and he called it for Eubank. Later, when he was on the telly and had re watched it, he changed his mind. Like I say , it happens, but The important thing is 2 got it right. Tell me , do you think Canelo drew with Floyd?
3. You do know Eubank and Saunders are the same age, don't you? Why should he improve any more than Saunders?
I'm sure you won't see it like this, but then again, when have you ever let facts get in the way of a good hype and bullshit story? ;D
Are you for real?
You really honestly think that experience comes from age!!?
Firstly you were talking about improvement not experience. However, I do believe Saunders has gained more experience than Eubank and I don't see why/how that will change as they are the same age and are likely to have the same length of career left.
Still , I'm sure you'll come back with "if,if,if" instead of the facts.
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1.Pro low level fighters do it to earn money:rolleyes:
2.If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?
3. Eubank is improving.
1. Yes, but it is supplemented usually by a job, it is not their priority , some know they'll never make it, they love the sport as well.
2. Clearly one judge got it wrong, it happens. They clearly got carried away with Eubank's wild haymakers that were all missing. Richie Woodhall was ringside for Radio 5 and he called it for Eubank. Later, when he was on the telly and had re watched it, he changed his mind. Like I say , it happens, but The important thing is 2 got it right. Tell me , do you think Canelo drew with Floyd?
3. You do know Eubank and Saunders are the same age, don't you? Why should he improve any more than Saunders?
I'm sure you won't see it like this, but then again, when have you ever let facts get in the way of a good hype and bullshit story? ;D
Are you for real?
You really honestly think that experience comes from age!!?
Firstly you were talking about improvement not experience. However, I do believe Saunders has gained more experience than Eubank and I don't see why/how that will change as they are the same age and are likely to have the same length of career left.
Still , I'm sure you'll come back with "if,if,if" instead of the facts.
You will see what Eubank does to Spike compared to what Saunders managed.
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1.Pro low level fighters do it to earn money:rolleyes:
2.If Eubank is hype and bullshit how come he got a score card in his favour over Saunders when no one else could?
3. Eubank is improving.
1. Yes, but it is supplemented usually by a job, it is not their priority , some know they'll never make it, they love the sport as well.
2. Clearly one judge got it wrong, it happens. They clearly got carried away with Eubank's wild haymakers that were all missing. Richie Woodhall was ringside for Radio 5 and he called it for Eubank. Later, when he was on the telly and had re watched it, he changed his mind. Like I say , it happens, but The important thing is 2 got it right. Tell me , do you think Canelo drew with Floyd?
3. You do know Eubank and Saunders are the same age, don't you? Why should he improve any more than Saunders?
I'm sure you won't see it like this, but then again, when have you ever let facts get in the way of a good hype and bullshit story? ;D
Are you for real?
You really honestly think that experience comes from age!!?
Firstly you were talking about improvement not experience. However, I do believe Saunders has gained more experience than Eubank and I don't see why/how that will change as they are the same age and are likely to have the same length of career left.
Still , I'm sure you'll come back with "if,if,if" instead of the facts.
You will see what Eubank does to Spike compared to what Saunders managed.
Here we go again, "if,if,if".all Eubank has to do is beat O'Sullivan. That's what Saunders did. And guess what? Saunders beat Eubank as well! ;D;D;D
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Take out your posts and the replies to your nonsense and I can't see much difference. We proved this before Ross , when you didn't post on a Fury thread for 2 days, and nobody else did. Come on Ross, get with the programme!:rolleyes:
What!?
Am I stopping everyone from posting about the Lee Saunders fight?
No one gives a fuck about them or their boring fight. You are more excited about Eubank jr as is every other poster in this thread. Excited can be excited to see him win or lose but he generates excitment and some are resenting that but just cant help themselves post about him and ignore a genuine world title fight involving fighters they supposedly really respect at the same time.
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I really think the Heavyweight division is starting to come back. There is a lot of depth that needs to be thinned out right now. More matchup's of the top 25 should be interesting. Hopefully we get some cream rising to the top.
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This page is freaking huge with all your unnecessary quotes guys. Takes like a minute to scroll this bitch.
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This page is freaking huge with all your unnecessary quotes guys. Takes like a minute to scroll this bitch.
Iv been trying to keep mine down.
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Iv got to reiterate how ironic I think it is that those who cant stand Eubank and supposedly respect Saunders and Lee are posting on here compared to a Saunders Lee thread!
The actual Lee V Saunders thread is right now on page 11 and look how many pages it has compared to this thread!!;D
Eubank is pure excitement and entertainment.
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Iv got to reiterate how ironic I think it is that those who cant stand Eubank and supposedly respect Saunders and Lee are posting on here compared to a Saunders Lee thread!
The actual Lee V Saunders thread is right now on page 11 and look how many pages it has compared to this thread!!;D
Eubank is pure excitement and entertainment.
Like I said, it's all YOUR posts! You've just posted 2 on the trot. What does that tell you? Nobody posted in between. It's only idiots like me who try to make you see reason. Other sensible people just let you carry on making a fool of yourself.
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I sincerely think O'Sullivan is more than capable of stopping Eubank Jr. Really hope it happens, tiring of the Eubank circus already, deluded arrogant tossers the pair of them. Remember Sr was easily out psyched by another Irish lad in Collins and I think Jr is no less gullible. I think Spike will get into the huge space in such a vacuous head and dismantle him before he even steps in the ring.
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If O Sullivan can bang why did Matthew Hall go 12 rounds with him?
What has he done to make everyone think he is such a big puncher? Who is the fringe world fighter or journeyman that has never been stopped that O Sullivan had proven this power against?
Matthew Hall smashed Bradley Pryce to bits inside two rounds. Eubank Jr couldn't put a dent in Bradley Pryce.
If Jr's got punching power how come he didn't KO Pryce?
Where have I been saying Eubank is a big power puncher?
O Sullivan has people believing hes Gerald McLellan.....
If you get hit with a punch which has 1,100 pounds of pressure behind it, I don't give a shit who you are, its going to hurt you.
Where did you hear about the punch being measured?
