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I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
And that is exactly how the majority of British people feel.
What the fuck are our government doing allowing globally known jihadists who they know have recently been in Libya and Syria to freely come in and out of our country.
Lighting candles, reading poems, donating money and changing your Facebook profile pic to " I love Manchester" will do fuck all to stop the next bombing.
Its as simple as rounding them cunts up and jailing or deporting them.
If we had done those kids would still be alive.
We need a leader in the UK, someone with the balls who will protect their own citizens first and not these spineless clowns who currently do.
Id take someone like Trump or Putin over our current PM all day long.
There is a direct line between the NATO operation in Benghazi and Al Qaeda rebels in Syria. Arms and Intelligence. So while you may think that somebody like Trump would make things better the truth is he is knee deep in it with the Saudis too. When you have Imams chucking people out of mosques and Muslims reporting these people to the authorities then you have to question why nothing has been done. Unfortunately the exact supposedly strong type right wing leaders that people think would make Britain safer, are the same ones cutting the security budget, and putting not offending the House of Saud above the safety of British citizens.
However left wing, soft, naive or supposedly too empathetic people are, it is not them that people's anger should be turned on. That is the same old tired tirade that Brockton the ex-Muslim holier than thou hate preacher is suggesting people join him on, but it is nothing but a distraction. The answers to stopping these horrific things happening are nothing to do with being afraid of offending Muslims in Britain. It is all to do with being afraid of jeopardizing huge arms deals abroad.
We have no business bombing the middle east. We most certainly should not be selling arms to countries in the region or training troops like we do. Yes of course we should have a strict border policy that vets and arrests terrorists and terrorist sympathizers, but the right wing government we have, cuts security and border guard numbers and has for years. They are to blame. So sweeping have the police cuts been that now we are having to deploy the army on British streets.
The bombing in Manchester targeted young people and children so if even just one of those victims injured in hospital or the kids of Manchester are comforted by people lighting a candle or showing solidarity than that is a good thing. I know that you are not mocking that, just the faux sentimental pointless things like people changing their facebook profile pics etc and the idea that standing together and being a pacifist is enough to stop these animals. The problem I have with some of the posts in this thread, and others in response to the recent Westminster attack, are the suggestion that the British principle of solidarity and standing together in the face of adversity, something that saw us survive countless bombing from the Luftwaffe to the IRA, is somehow a sign of weakness, a capitulation. It is incredibly offensive to be lectured by people from a country that puts sensationalizing leaked evidence ahead of national security and the same people who actually repeatedly posted it here, on being soft on terrorism.
I get all that and agree that what our government has done has left us in this situation but what I'm saying is why are these known terrorists free men in our country and what do our government think these young men are doing in Syria - 2 week beach holiday with their mates at some 5 star all inclusive resort, banging hotties and drinking beer?
Why are they allowed to enter the UK direct from Terror training camps in Syria when our government has admitted they knew they were there?
Why are they not in Jail or been Deported long ago.
Why are they freely allowing them to kill innocent British citizens time after time with no change in dealing with them whatsoever?
The UK has become a laughing stock with our joke border controls and has gone from a Great country into one of the easiest targets in the World for terrorists to attack because we simply allow them to be free in our country.
If they (known ISIS Jihadists) are not in the country then they cannot kill people in that country.
It's that Simple
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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smashup
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Beanz
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smashup
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Master
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Batman
I'm gunna go on a rant tomorrow, it's not against Isis it's not against Muslims I don't know who it is against but I'm watching sommet on telly now and I'm getting fed up of it, not going to go into it now cuz I'm 10 cans deep and I can't articulate what I want to say
Watch the boxing on channel 5
your country with it's open door policy and it's Muslim apologist policy and it's paranoia of offending people allowed this guy's father to immigrate to England from Libya even though he was fighting for Al-Qaeda.... and your country's open door policy allowed him and his son to travel back and forth for training terrorist training and bomb-making training to Syria and back to Libya and then return to Great Britain to pull off this horrible attack. That is the only embarrassment here and it is caring more about not offending people then doing the right thing to protect people period and people want to talk about Muslim taxi drivers who helped out oh wow I am so blown away with that generosity wow
And that is exactly how the majority of British people feel.
What the fuck are our government doing allowing globally known jihadists who they know have recently been in Libya and Syria to freely come in and out of our country.
Lighting candles, reading poems, donating money and changing your Facebook profile pic to " I love Manchester" will do fuck all to stop the next bombing.
Its as simple as rounding them cunts up and jailing or deporting them.
If we had done those kids would still be alive.
We need a leader in the UK, someone with the balls who will protect their own citizens first and not these spineless clowns who currently do.
Id take someone like Trump or Putin over our current PM all day long.
There is a direct line between the NATO operation in Benghazi and Al Qaeda rebels in Syria. Arms and Intelligence. So while you may think that somebody like Trump would make things better the truth is he is knee deep in it with the Saudis too. When you have Imams chucking people out of mosques and Muslims reporting these people to the authorities then you have to question why nothing has been done. Unfortunately the exact supposedly strong type right wing leaders that people think would make Britain safer, are the same ones cutting the security budget, and putting not offending the House of Saud above the safety of British citizens.
However left wing, soft, naive or supposedly too empathetic people are, it is not them that people's anger should be turned on. That is the same old tired tirade that Brockton the ex-Muslim holier than thou hate preacher is suggesting people join him on, but it is nothing but a distraction. The answers to stopping these horrific things happening are nothing to do with being afraid of offending Muslims in Britain. It is all to do with being afraid of jeopardizing huge arms deals abroad.
We have no business bombing the middle east. We most certainly should not be selling arms to countries in the region or training troops like we do. Yes of course we should have a strict border policy that vets and arrests terrorists and terrorist sympathizers, but the right wing government we have, cuts security and border guard numbers and has for years. They are to blame. So sweeping have the police cuts been that now we are having to deploy the army on British streets.
The bombing in Manchester targeted young people and children so if even just one of those victims injured in hospital or the kids of Manchester are comforted by people lighting a candle or showing solidarity than that is a good thing. I know that you are not mocking that, just the faux sentimental pointless things like people changing their facebook profile pics etc and the idea that standing together and being a pacifist is enough to stop these animals. The problem I have with some of the posts in this thread, and others in response to the recent Westminster attack, are the suggestion that the British principle of solidarity and standing together in the face of adversity, something that saw us survive countless bombing from the Luftwaffe to the IRA, is somehow a sign of weakness, a capitulation. It is incredibly offensive to be lectured by people from a country that puts sensationalizing leaked evidence ahead of national security and the same people who actually repeatedly posted it here, on being soft on terrorism.
I get all that and agree that what our government has done has left us in this situation but what I'm saying is why are these known terrorists free men in our country?
Why are they allowed to enter the UK direct from Terror training camps in Syria when our government has admitted they knew they were there?
Why are they not in Jail or been Deported long ago.
Why are they freely allowing them to kill innocent British citizens time after time with no change in dealing with them whatsoever?
The UK has become a laughing stock with our joke border controls and has gone from a Great country into one of the easiest targets in the World for terrorists to attack because we simply allow them to be free in our country.
If they are not in the country then they cannot kill people in that country.
It's that Simple
Quite why anyone on a list is allowed free movement is beyond me too. With huge cuts in prison wardens and Police etc though you have to wonder if they really are more interested in making cuts than saving lives.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Beanz
The answers to stopping these horrific things happening are nothing to do with being afraid of offending Muslims in Britain.
It is all to do with being afraid of jeopardizing huge arms deals abroad.We have no business bombing the middle east. We most certainly should not be selling arms to countries in the region or training troops like we do.
I had to split this up a bit to be clear. I disagree with the first sentence. I think there is an inherent fear of tackling anything where race, colour or religion is at the crux. Sadly, that fear is almost always sprinkled with a healthy dose of incompetence and sabotage. The seemingly country wide systematic rape of young girls by Muslim gangs is a prime example of the level of fear and incompetence at play.
I completely agree with the rest. To coin a phrase from Boyz in Da Hood, 'He aint botherin you so dont fuck wid him!'
Whilst its of course fine for people to do whatever they want to do to show support, it's getting old pretty quick. I feel like the next attack should come with a poster and bullet pointed list just to cover everything in one hit.
- Carry on as normal
- Stand together
- They wont win
- Not all Muslims are bad
- By the same token, not all white people are bad either, it's just that some will call anyone with a decent tan a Paki and might just throw half a house brick through your front window.
etc, etc
It should have a picture of a Muslim, ideally an Imam and a white hairy arsed builder having a cuddle.
I'm amazed this hasn't gone proper sideways, you can see it coming.
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Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
Sources you you have ? Just warming up ?
​Fucking hell and you have the cheek to call me an apologist.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
Sources you you have ? Just warming up ?
​Fucking hell and you have the cheek to call me an apologist.
Yeah mate I know you're from a small town in the countryside but I live in New York City we have over 288,000 Bangladesh's here just in Queens Borough thousands and thousands of them are from London and Manchester and have family there and contacts there and connections there and they have been telling me since March
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That figure includes pakistanis Afghani somalis Etc
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So many people have predicted this since March people right here in this neighborhood and in these communities right here. England just has a very very miniaturized version of the enormous gigantic neighborhoods that we have here and I am hearing this narrative I am hearing these things since March and that is why I posted it about a month-and-a-half ago that this particular Ramadan would be very bloody in the United Kingdom and abroad
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What law enforcement has to do and I am happy to see the military out on the streets in England finally a bit and just a bit of a show of force although it is way too light and should be really beat up they need to go around and actively check people's background and ID
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Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
I take it that you reported these "sources" as even if they know somebody who knows somebody it could provide vital information required to potentially stop a "bloody ramadan"
Unless these sources don't actually know fuck all and were just assuming that the UK was long overdue a terrorist attack, in that case they aren't really sources are they.
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How many arrests in total have been made due to the Manchester attacks?
I've read 7 then 9 then 14....any other numbers?
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Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
I take it that you reported these "sources" as even if they know somebody who knows somebody it could provide vital information required to potentially stop a "bloody ramadan"
Unless these sources don't actually know fuck all and were just assuming that the UK was long overdue a terrorist attack, in that case they aren't really sources are they.
literally 30 or more adult Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Afghani, Somali and Algerians, each one of them at one point over the past 60 days has told me that this Ramadan will be very very bloody, as they are all familiar with the vibe/the general climate of hatred towards the West and how it has ratcheted up, and how it is inevitable that more and more extremists infiltrate the LAX, OPEN DOOR OF THE UK/EU.
In the ME even, Look today 41 people blasted apart in Baghdad by a truck bomb. @Batman no they did not provide me with any names of people in the UK/EU, and they certainly would not I dont think, nor do they have any specific names from what I interpret from their comments, but they all have lived in the UK/EU for years and now here in NYC and say the same thing: they know the neighborhoods there in Brussels, in London, in Stockholm, in Oslo, in Frankfurt, and they fear there will be an exceptionally bloody time now.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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brocktonblockbust
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Batman
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brocktonblockbust
Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
I take it that you reported these "sources" as even if they know somebody who knows somebody it could provide vital information required to potentially stop a "bloody ramadan"
Unless these sources don't actually know fuck all and were just assuming that the UK was long overdue a terrorist attack, in that case they aren't really sources are they.
literally 30 or more adult Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Afghani, Somali and Algerians, each one of them at one point over the past 60 days has told me that this Ramadan will be very very bloody, as they are all familiar with the vibe/the general climate of hatred towards the West and how it has ratcheted up, and how it is inevitable that more and more extremists infiltrate the LAX, OPEN DOOR OF THE UK/EU.
In the ME even, Look today 41 people blasted apart in Baghdad by a truck bomb. @
Batman no they did not provide me with any names of people in the UK/EU, and they certainly would not I dont think, nor do they have any specific names from what I interpret from their comments, but they all have lived in the UK/EU for years and now here in NYC and say the same thing: they know the neighborhoods there in Brussels, in London, in Stockholm, in Oslo, in Frankfurt, and they fear there will be an exceptionally bloody time now.
That doesn't really make them sources then does it, just a week or two before the westminster bridge I said to my dad that the UK was long overdue a serious attack I wouldn't consider myself a source of anything, just a regular bloke who can see that the law of probabilities suggested it was going to happen.
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Batman
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brocktonblockbust
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Batman
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
I take it that you reported these "sources" as even if they know somebody who knows somebody it could provide vital information required to potentially stop a "bloody ramadan"
Unless these sources don't actually know fuck all and were just assuming that the UK was long overdue a terrorist attack, in that case they aren't really sources are they.
literally 30 or more adult Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Afghani, Somali and Algerians, each one of them at one point over the past 60 days has told me that this Ramadan will be very very bloody, as they are all familiar with the vibe/the general climate of hatred towards the West and how it has ratcheted up, and how it is inevitable that more and more extremists infiltrate the LAX, OPEN DOOR OF THE UK/EU.
In the ME even, Look today 41 people blasted apart in Baghdad by a truck bomb. @
Batman no they did not provide me with any names of people in the UK/EU, and they certainly would not I dont think, nor do they have any specific names from what I interpret from their comments, but they all have lived in the UK/EU for years and now here in NYC and say the same thing: they know the neighborhoods there in Brussels, in London, in Stockholm, in Oslo, in Frankfurt, and they fear there will be an exceptionally bloody time now.
That doesn't really make them sources then does it, just a week or two before the westminster bridge I said to my dad that the UK was long overdue a serious attack I wouldn't consider myself a source of anything, just a regular bloke who can see that the law of probabilities suggested it was going to happen.
i get your analogy but these are hard core Muslims Im talking about, and i mean hard core, dress and everything, and well familiar they with some of their less desirable community elements/trends/vibes in Europe
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brocktonblockbust
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Batman
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Batman
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brocktonblockbust
Keep singing Kumbaya. We'll talk again in 60 days Beanz. Check back wit ya. I said from sources I have back in March "it will be a bloody Ramadan" and I was right, its right on schedule. And just warming up.
I take it that you reported these "sources" as even if they know somebody who knows somebody it could provide vital information required to potentially stop a "bloody ramadan"
Unless these sources don't actually know fuck all and were just assuming that the UK was long overdue a terrorist attack, in that case they aren't really sources are they.
literally 30 or more adult Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Afghani, Somali and Algerians, each one of them at one point over the past 60 days has told me that this Ramadan will be very very bloody, as they are all familiar with the vibe/the general climate of hatred towards the West and how it has ratcheted up, and how it is inevitable that more and more extremists infiltrate the LAX, OPEN DOOR OF THE UK/EU.
In the ME even, Look today 41 people blasted apart in Baghdad by a truck bomb. @
Batman no they did not provide me with any names of people in the UK/EU, and they certainly would not I dont think, nor do they have any specific names from what I interpret from their comments, but they all have lived in the UK/EU for years and now here in NYC and say the same thing: they know the neighborhoods there in Brussels, in London, in Stockholm, in Oslo, in Frankfurt, and they fear there will be an exceptionally bloody time now.
That doesn't really make them sources then does it, just a week or two before the westminster bridge I said to my dad that the UK was long overdue a serious attack I wouldn't consider myself a source of anything, just a regular bloke who can see that the law of probabilities suggested it was going to happen.
i get your analogy but these are hard core Muslims Im talking about, and i mean hard core, dress and everything, and well familiar they with some of their less desirable community elements/trends/vibes in Europe
sorry if it seems like I'm splitting hairs now but, I mean regardless of 'how they dress and everything' are they really 'hardcore Muslims' if they fraternise with the less desirable elements of their community.
I mean I'm aware of the less desirable community elements/trends/vibes in England, I work with 'hardcore Muslims' and they would more than likely have predicted that an attack was imminent in much the same way as I did, and they certainly don't venture towards the less desirable elements.
I still maintain my point that they either had no clue what was going to happen and were just making speculative guesses or they had heard of something and decided not to share this info with the relevant people, I'm guessing it was the former.
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We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
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We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN
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Fenster
We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN
That's the spirit, always looking on the bright side. :)
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Master
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN
That's the spirit, always looking on the bright side. :)
And as you can see having good spirit and looking on the bright side has not done anything at all to enforce the law and protect the people. That's just a lot of hot air and rainbows and cotton candy
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN
That's the spirit, always looking on the bright side. :)
And as you can see having good spirit and looking on the bright side has not done anything at all to enforce the law and protect the people. That's just a lot of hot air and rainbows and cotton candy
Rather that than be a miserable, ill informed, ignorant and melodramatic poster. ;)
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Master
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brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN
That's the spirit, always looking on the bright side. :)
And as you can see having good spirit and looking on the bright side has not done anything at all to enforce the law and protect the people. That's just a lot of hot air and rainbows and cotton candy
Rather that than be a miserable, ill informed, ignorant and melodramatic poster. ;)
I know it's miserable to you to read the things I write because they are so true and accurate free from left-wing media spin. But I do not feel miserable at all to post the truth for all the world to see.
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The media is owned by right wing billionaires who perpetuate the corporate greed of multi nationals who they also own.
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Master
The media is owned by right wing billionaires who perpetuate the corporate greed of multi nationals who they also own.
Right wing to who Che Guevara?
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@Master you call George Soros right wing?
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Master
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?
Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.
And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN
That's the spirit, always looking on the bright side. :)
The thing is though, it's absolutely true isn't it? If I'm a terrorist in the business of bombing people/places, Im licking my lips at this thinking I'm in for second helpings. Or, Im thinking whilst so much attention is placed on X, I'm going to go ahead and bomb Y like I planned to in a few weeks anyway.
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The thing is though, it's absolutely true isn't it? If I'm a terrorist in the business of bombing people/places, Im licking my lips at this thinking I'm in for second helpings. Or, Im thinking whilst so much attention is placed on X, I'm going to go ahead and bomb Y like I planned to in a few weeks anyway.
Could be both couldn't it? I mean there's more than one terrorist in the area right? That's the troubling thing at least in my own view of things. My worry is that the authorities again choose not to act and then the guys they were keeping an eye on pull off another bombing and here we are again giving thoughts and prayers and changing our facebook pictures and wondering "How? Why?" and counting the bodies up.....that part is the most frustrating to me, if the authorities knew that dude was trouble and had been to Libya and had a father who is into that kind of terrorist shit, then ARREST HIM!!!! Don't fucking wait until the bodies of the children you're supposed to protect are lifeless corpses! That part really irks me, and those poor families who now have to live with the results of that bombing....fucking thanks a lot police, thanks MI5, thanks MI6, thanks to all the authorities who had the information and didn't act on it...that is the frustrating part to me, and fuck it's not like we don't know which community these attacks might come from either...if they don't want to be stereotyped in such a negative light then perhaps, perhaps a few could help the authorities prevent a few of these attacks, but hey, I am sure that is wishful thinking.
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Master
The media is owned by right wing billionaires who perpetuate the corporate greed of multi nationals who they also own.
Dude r u nutz have you ever seen us news or listen to your BBC or read the economist which stated if Donald trump is elected it would be worse than a terrorist attack. How misguided are you master
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El Kabong
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Memphis
The thing is though, it's absolutely true isn't it? If I'm a terrorist in the business of bombing people/places, Im licking my lips at this thinking I'm in for second helpings. Or, Im thinking whilst so much attention is placed on X, I'm going to go ahead and bomb Y like I planned to in a few weeks anyway.
Could be both couldn't it? I mean there's more than one terrorist in the area right? That's the troubling thing at least in my own view of things. My worry is that the authorities again choose not to act and then the guys they were keeping an eye on pull off another bombing and here we are again giving thoughts and prayers and changing our facebook pictures and wondering "How? Why?" and counting the bodies up.....that part is the most frustrating to me, if the authorities knew that dude was trouble and had been to Libya and had a father who is into that kind of terrorist shit, then ARREST HIM!!!! Don't fucking wait until the bodies of the children you're supposed to protect are lifeless corpses! That part really irks me, and those poor families who now have to live with the results of that bombing....fucking thanks a lot police, thanks MI5, thanks MI6, thanks to all the authorities who had the information and didn't act on it...that is the frustrating part to me, and fuck it's not like we don't know which community these attacks might come from either...if they don't want to be stereotyped in such a negative light then perhaps, perhaps a few could help the authorities prevent a few of these attacks, but hey, I am sure that is wishful thinking.
Good post, completely agree
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
Thank you @Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.
That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?
And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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El Kabong
Thank you @
Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.
That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we
ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?
And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.
Wow...so you have now managed to turn it from a thread about those innocent people killed in Manchester England to a chance to drone on about your first amendment rights ?
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Thank you @
Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.
That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we
ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?
And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.
Wow...so you have now managed to turn it from a thread about those innocent people killed in Manchester England to a chance to drone on about your first amendment rights ?
Well they aren't only MY rights Beanz they are the rights of all Americans AND if giving up those rights or having those rights infringed on by the government leaves us all no safer then the question is why do it? What good is it to do those things when the authorities see a bad guy, they know he's a bad guy, they know he's up to no good, and they keyword here ALLOW him to carry out an attack that kills children.
Yeah, I'm asking those questions what of it?
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Thank you @
Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.
That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we
ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?
And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.
I don't know if it's easier to accomplish in the UK, I mean you boys had the biggest terrorist attack in history in 9/11 (granted that was a game changer and something no one ever expected or planned for) but don't forget you had the Boston bombings not long back, now in the UK we have had 2 in a relatively short space of time but since the 7/7 bombings we haven't had anything.
I don't think it's easier or harder in any country.
The one thing I will say is that I don't think that having guns is any sort of deterrent to someone who is planning on blowing themselves up.
And on a side note I watched four lions again the other night, what a film "you want some you fucking rabbits, you fucked up rabbits with no ears"
If you haven't seen it then watch it
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Batman
I don't know if it's easier to accomplish in the UK, I mean you boys had the biggest terrorist attack in history in 9/11 (granted that was a game changer and something no one ever expected or planned for) but don't forget you had the Boston bombings not long back, now in the UK we have had 2 in a relatively short space of time but since the 7/7 bombings we haven't had anything.
I don't think it's easier or harder in any country.
The one thing I will say is that I don't think that having guns is any sort of deterrent to someone who is planning on blowing themselves up.
And on a side note I watched four lions again the other night, what a film "you want some you fucking rabbits, you fucked up rabbits with no ears"
If you haven't seen it then watch it
I think it's a shit sandwich every western nation is going to have to take a bite out of. My worry is that we give up our rights in the hopes that the GOVERNMENT protect us, whether they can't or they choose not to it doesn't matter but to have the same results without our rights as WITH our rights it's not something I will accept. The government has it's place and it should protect it's citizens, but apparently doing so could be considered racist or otherwise bad somehow.
I may have to check that out, thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Batman
I don't know if it's easier to accomplish in the UK, I mean you boys had the biggest terrorist attack in history in 9/11 (granted that was a game changer and something no one ever expected or planned for) but don't forget you had the Boston bombings not long back, now in the UK we have had 2 in a relatively short space of time but since the 7/7 bombings we haven't had anything.
I don't think it's easier or harder in any country.
The one thing I will say is that I don't think that having guns is any sort of deterrent to someone who is planning on blowing themselves up.
And on a side note I watched four lions again the other night, what a film "you want some you fucking rabbits, you fucked up rabbits with no ears"
If you haven't seen it then watch it
I think it's a shit sandwich every western nation is going to have to take a bite out of. My worry is that we give up our rights in the hopes that the GOVERNMENT protect us, whether they can't or they choose not to it doesn't matter but to have the same results without our rights as WITH our rights it's not something I will accept. The government has it's place and it should protect it's citizens, but apparently doing so could be considered racist or otherwise bad somehow.
I may have to check that out, thanks for the suggestion.
You want an idea of English terrorists then four lions is the film to watch
"I'm the paki Rambo yeah "
"Come on lads is he a fucking martyr or a chicken jalfrezi"
"Let's blow up a mosque"
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
A van has mowed people down on London bridge and there had been stabbings as well, armed police have attended,
Could be completely unrelated but the first thing you think at the moment is terrorism
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Batman
A van has mowed people down on London bridge and there had been stabbings as well, armed police have attended,
Could be completely unrelated but the first thing you think at the moment is terrorism
5 or 6 people were hit, no mention on the news of the stabbing but they have said that it is extremely similar to the Westminster attack
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
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Originally Posted by
Batman
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Originally Posted by
Batman
A van has mowed people down on London bridge and there had been stabbings as well, armed police have attended,
Could be completely unrelated but the first thing you think at the moment is terrorism
5 or 6 people were hit, no mention on the news of the stabbing but they have said that it is extremely similar to the Westminster attack
Van driver got away.
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
BBC news had a journo who was coincidentally at the scene, she was just a few meters away from the van.
She said the can didn't stop so any talk of stabbings sound unlikely
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Re: 22 dead in Manchester
Looking at this now on fox new. Clearing the streets of people and lots of cops. Hope it's not to bad for my London bretheren. I have no idea who could be behind such an act.
