22 dead in Manchester

[Memphis]

We now have a tribute concert? Eh!? What?

Yeeee!!! This will make things better, shed a tear for the victims, love one 'n other, stop Islamophobia, post a selfie, it was a fantastic night... we didn't get blown up.

And hey there's a chance for the terrorists to get a second bite at the apple here providing the authorities drop the ball AGAIN

That's the spirit, always looking on the bright side.

The thing is though, it's absolutely true isn't it? If I'm a terrorist in the business of bombing people/places, Im licking my lips at this thinking I'm in for second helpings. Or, Im thinking whilst so much attention is placed on X, I'm going to go ahead and bomb Y like I planned to in a few weeks anyway.

[El Kabong]

The thing is though, it's absolutely true isn't it? If I'm a terrorist in the business of bombing people/places, Im licking my lips at this thinking I'm in for second helpings. Or, Im thinking whilst so much attention is placed on X, I'm going to go ahead and bomb Y like I planned to in a few weeks anyway.

Could be both couldn't it? I mean there's more than one terrorist in the area right? That's the troubling thing at least in my own view of things. My worry is that the authorities again choose not to act and then the guys they were keeping an eye on pull off another bombing and here we are again giving thoughts and prayers and changing our facebook pictures and wondering "How? Why?" and counting the bodies up.....that part is the most frustrating to me, if the authorities knew that dude was trouble and had been to Libya and had a father who is into that kind of terrorist shit, then ARREST HIM!!!! Don't fucking wait until the bodies of the children you're supposed to protect are lifeless corpses! That part really irks me, and those poor families who now have to live with the results of that bombing....fucking thanks a lot police, thanks MI5, thanks MI6, thanks to all the authorities who had the information and didn't act on it...that is the frustrating part to me, and fuck it's not like we don't know which community these attacks might come from either...if they don't want to be stereotyped in such a negative light then perhaps, perhaps a few could help the authorities prevent a few of these attacks, but hey, I am sure that is wishful thinking.

[Batman]

The thing is though, it's absolutely true isn't it? If I'm a terrorist in the business of bombing people/places, Im licking my lips at this thinking I'm in for second helpings. Or, Im thinking whilst so much attention is placed on X, I'm going to go ahead and bomb Y like I planned to in a few weeks anyway.

Could be both couldn't it? I mean there's more than one terrorist in the area right? That's the troubling thing at least in my own view of things. My worry is that the authorities again choose not to act and then the guys they were keeping an eye on pull off another bombing and here we are again giving thoughts and prayers and changing our facebook pictures and wondering "How? Why?" and counting the bodies up.....that part is the most frustrating to me, if the authorities knew that dude was trouble and had been to Libya and had a father who is into that kind of terrorist shit, then ARREST HIM!!!! Don't fucking wait until the bodies of the children you're supposed to protect are lifeless corpses! That part really irks me, and those poor families who now have to live with the results of that bombing....fucking thanks a lot police, thanks MI5, thanks MI6, thanks to all the authorities who had the information and didn't act on it...that is the frustrating part to me, and fuck it's not like we don't know which community these attacks might come from either...if they don't want to be stereotyped in such a negative light then perhaps, perhaps a few could help the authorities prevent a few of these attacks, but hey, I am sure that is wishful thinking.

Good post, completely agree

[El Kabong]

Thank you @Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.


That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?



And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.

[Beanz]

Thank you @Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.


That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?



And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.

Wow...so you have now managed to turn it from a thread about those innocent people killed in Manchester England to a chance to drone on about your first amendment rights ?

[El Kabong]

Thank you @Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.


That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?



And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.

Wow...so you have now managed to turn it from a thread about those innocent people killed in Manchester England to a chance to drone on about your first amendment rights ?

Well they aren't only MY rights Beanz they are the rights of all Americans AND if giving up those rights or having those rights infringed on by the government leaves us all no safer then the question is why do it? What good is it to do those things when the authorities see a bad guy, they know he's a bad guy, they know he's up to no good, and they keyword here ALLOW him to carry out an attack that kills children.


Yeah, I'm asking those questions what of it?

[Batman]

Thank you @Batman ....as a citizen in a nation that is target A#1 (not to downplay how much England is focused on, I think it's A#1 USA and #2 England in terms of who they WANT to hurt but it's I guess easier to accomplish in England, IDK) of these terrorists I wonder if the authorities aren't going to act on the information they've gathered and use the tools and materials we as law abiding voting citizens have given them then why am I taking off my fucking shoes at the airport still? Why are we herded through the strictest of security measures for ANY event? Why is the NSA spying on us? If the terrorists are going to be allowed to carry out their plots then why are we the law abiding citizens hit twice? Once by the abusive government and a second time by the terrorists they know full well about but just didn't bother to arrest.


That is extremely frustrating and it doesn't matter who the terrorists are at all in that instance...I mean we ALL know who is doing the bombings and the shootings etc but to just not act on the information you have and everyone is going through the motions of we're a safe society...WHY? Why just go through the motions if the result is going to be the same?



And those fuckers don't want law abiding citizens owning firearms?!?!? Yyyyyeah I ain't going that route man.

I don't know if it's easier to accomplish in the UK, I mean you boys had the biggest terrorist attack in history in 9/11 (granted that was a game changer and something no one ever expected or planned for) but don't forget you had the Boston bombings not long back, now in the UK we have had 2 in a relatively short space of time but since the 7/7 bombings we haven't had anything.

I don't think it's easier or harder in any country.

The one thing I will say is that I don't think that having guns is any sort of deterrent to someone who is planning on blowing themselves up.

And on a side note I watched four lions again the other night, what a film "you want some you fucking rabbits, you fucked up rabbits with no ears"

If you haven't seen it then watch it

[El Kabong]

I don't know if it's easier to accomplish in the UK, I mean you boys had the biggest terrorist attack in history in 9/11 (granted that was a game changer and something no one ever expected or planned for) but don't forget you had the Boston bombings not long back, now in the UK we have had 2 in a relatively short space of time but since the 7/7 bombings we haven't had anything.

I don't think it's easier or harder in any country.

The one thing I will say is that I don't think that having guns is any sort of deterrent to someone who is planning on blowing themselves up.

And on a side note I watched four lions again the other night, what a film "you want some you fucking rabbits, you fucked up rabbits with no ears"

If you haven't seen it then watch it

I think it's a shit sandwich every western nation is going to have to take a bite out of. My worry is that we give up our rights in the hopes that the GOVERNMENT protect us, whether they can't or they choose not to it doesn't matter but to have the same results without our rights as WITH our rights it's not something I will accept. The government has it's place and it should protect it's citizens, but apparently doing so could be considered racist or otherwise bad somehow.


I may have to check that out, thanks for the suggestion.

[Batman]

I don't know if it's easier to accomplish in the UK, I mean you boys had the biggest terrorist attack in history in 9/11 (granted that was a game changer and something no one ever expected or planned for) but don't forget you had the Boston bombings not long back, now in the UK we have had 2 in a relatively short space of time but since the 7/7 bombings we haven't had anything.

I don't think it's easier or harder in any country.

The one thing I will say is that I don't think that having guns is any sort of deterrent to someone who is planning on blowing themselves up.

And on a side note I watched four lions again the other night, what a film "you want some you fucking rabbits, you fucked up rabbits with no ears"

If you haven't seen it then watch it

I think it's a shit sandwich every western nation is going to have to take a bite out of. My worry is that we give up our rights in the hopes that the GOVERNMENT protect us, whether they can't or they choose not to it doesn't matter but to have the same results without our rights as WITH our rights it's not something I will accept. The government has it's place and it should protect it's citizens, but apparently doing so could be considered racist or otherwise bad somehow.


I may have to check that out, thanks for the suggestion.

You want an idea of English terrorists then four lions is the film to watch

"I'm the paki Rambo yeah "
"Come on lads is he a fucking martyr or a chicken jalfrezi"
"Let's blow up a mosque"