Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement
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walrus
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Kirkland Laing
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El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?
You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?
Thanks for calling me an idiot.
The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.
Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.
It wasn't trump who came out with it idiot it was independent studies
Show me these independent studies. I bet you can't.
Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement
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El Kabong
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Gandalf
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El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025
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Geez what a hard choice to make :shakehead:
And again....the agreement would have
"no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.
Is it all really just about temperature? Maybe it's okay in your bubble, but out there in big cities across the world people are actually suffocating so that negligent corporations can carry on polluting and making a buck at everyone's expense. This is where the rich should cough up (pun intended) as they are making money from suffering. There is a very nice beach area out here, but it is made horrible by nearby heavy industry. I think there comes a point where you say "What are we as a society about? Making money for the few and making the rest suffer, or let's just have a little bit of moderation?" It's not such a lefty, radical suggestion to make.
When people say "Climate Change" they mean temperature right until you make that a moot point and then it's goal post moving time.
What cities? Where? Do list them off please.
Beanz your tattling on ExxonMobil is noted BUT the Paris Accords were never passed through Congress (thanks Obama) and therefore it was always President Trump's call alone. Also they urged Trump to leave? Dude read that Accord, see the terms and conditions and tell me not only are they 100% good for the climate they are 100% good for the economy AND other nations w were following suit in the exact same manner. Nations told members of the Paris Accord "Fuck you, pay me" but naaash man everything is equal.
You should try visiting Pohang where the Posco corporation belches out pollution on a daily basis. Pollution that causes cancer, asthma, and immune disorders. I would suggest any area where there is largescale manufacturing or heavy metal production or coal burning. Go to Hong Kong and see how it looks, go to Seoul, go to any major city these days. Humans are living like rats in cages and not only are we putting them through that, but we are suffocating them because we refuse to get real on very serious problems.
Your global warming denial is alarming. Why is your country so strange? Half the country thinks man walked with dinosaurs, a sizeable minority do not believe that climate change is real, and many of you are in denial about what your country does around the world. It's weird you know. Sometimes you need to look beyond the bubble to see how strange it looks. It's not just you guys, the Brits just voted the Tories back in again. It's all very strange.
Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement
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Kirkland Laing
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walrus
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Kirkland Laing
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El Kabong
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Kirkland Laing
What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?
You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?
Thanks for calling me an idiot.
The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.
Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.
It wasn't trump who came out with it idiot it was independent studies
Show me these independent studies. I bet you can't.
Dude are you crazy they have been all over the news and papers are you that insane?
Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement
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Gandalf
You should try visiting Pohang where the Posco corporation belches out pollution on a daily basis. Pollution that causes cancer, asthma, and immune disorders. I would suggest any area where there is largescale manufacturing or heavy metal production or coal burning. Go to Hong Kong and see how it looks, go to Seoul, go to any major city these days. Humans are living like rats in cages and not only are we putting them through that, but we are suffocating them because we refuse to get real on very serious problems.
Your global warming denial is alarming. Why is your country so strange? Half the country thinks man walked with dinosaurs, a sizeable minority do not believe that climate change is real, and many of you are in denial about what your country does around the world. It's weird you know. Sometimes you need to look beyond the bubble to see how strange it looks. It's not just you guys, the Brits just voted the Tories back in again. It's all very strange.
So you're saying pollution is bad? I don't disagree with you. Now I want you to read this very carefully: IF there is Anthropogenic Global Climate Change AND the population of Earth can do something about it then would it not behoove all nations to promise as much as the United States in something like the Paris Accords?
Take the whole "OMG we're all gonna die Climate Change" out of it and just look at it from a standpoint of what nations promised what....The United States promised the Moon, Russia, China, India, other nations aren't doing so much, in fact other nations are pushing forward and doing even more polluting than before unless they are paid to stop. That's fair?
Why is it so strange that I am not losing my fucking my about the Earth is going to die? I think it's pretty fucking self centered to believe that HUMANS should be deciding what is the correct or incorrect Climate of the entire Earth, what is good for humanity might not be so great for wildlife people seem to worry so much about. Also why should I believe people who are saying there's Anthropogenic Climate Change when those very same people (Al Gore, Leo DiCaprio, etc) are jet setting around the world living in mansions, lives of luxury, and what? They buy carbon offsets? That doesn't suck the CO2 back out of the atmosphere! They are preachers and proselytizers of the World Religion miles...think the Catholic Church did bad things? Well buckle up buttercup, this is going to hurt really bad.
