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May as well just sing the State Anthem of the Soviet UnionQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Miles wants it both ways Gandalf I agree that everything should be complete freedom and I have always advocated going back to the Stone Age when you could do anything you want and there were no municipalities or laws at all. Total Anarchy and stone age is what I would pick above all other forms where Only the Strong Survive or the smart or the strong and smart combination. But Gandalf wants to have his cake and eat it too. And that is something you cannot do. if you are living in a sovereign country the system itself is the one that is providing you with your jobs and your security so therefore you must have respect for the anthem and the flag of that country. You cannot reap the benefits of that country and its system and its protection while at the same time disrespecting or not honoring its flag or Anthem. @Gandalf likes to compare apples to oranges and now we also see he likes to have his cake and try to eat it too.
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And here we are the conundrum of the day
You are full of shit. You are the one that says he lives free of rules, yet lives a life governed by rules. You want it both ways. I simply say that anthems are bollocks and nobody has to pay them any heed. You can reap benefits without worshipping a fricking flag or anthem. What is this? Sunday school? Society should grow the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Dude we are not going to put up with this shit. Two weeks ago you attacked about wlad. This week it's one of our best folk singers. I'm going to have to start another thread about was beanz right about LyleQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMay as well just sing the State Anthem of the Soviet UnionQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Guthrie was a Commie, it's in the songQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusDude we are not going to put up with this shit. Two weeks ago you attacked about wlad. This week it's one of our best folk singers. I'm going to have to start another thread about was beanz right about LyleQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMay as well just sing the State Anthem of the Soviet UnionQuote:
Originally Posted by walrus
There was a bar (I believe in St. Louis) using player jerseys as doormats....they just "happened" upon the name pairing of Marshawn Lynch and Colin Kaepernick reading "Lynch" & "Kaepernick" as you walk in the bar.
THAT I disagree with, THAT is way too far, and THAT is trying to make an argument based on race which I wholeheartedly disagree with. That's just blatant and uncalled for.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
How am I full of shit? The USA is protecting your ass right now and this is the thanks you give? YOU should be singing the Star Spangled Banner every day over there in Korea as we are protecting your asses every day since 1953. If it werent for the USA and its military and financial support of SK, you wouldnt be teachhing and earning what you earn right now and neither would your wife bro. You have got to be kidding if you think you'd be safe and secure there with the Reds in charge of the economy. You'd be earning JACK SHIT for one, if you even HAD any English programs AT ALL.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou are full of shit. You are the one that says he lives free of rules, yet lives a life governed by rules. You want it both ways. I simply say that anthems are bollocks and nobody has to pay them any heed. You can reap benefits without worshipping a fricking flag or anthem. What is this? Sunday school? Society should grow the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Further, and by no means exhaustively, you cannot reap benefits without being thankful, that is biting the hand that feeds you. So now we see 3 things (he just keeps heaping them up, one by one) than @Gandalf does: compares apples to oranges, wants to have his cake and eat it too, and now THIS FFS, bites the hand that feeds him.
You are full of shit because you say you do not follow any rules, but then expect people to adhere to mindless pageantry like flag worship and anthem standing. That is king flippy floppy.
The rest of your little rant is besides the point and irrelevant. Don't bring my wife into any argument. You have no idea what she does or who her company trades with. You are making baseless assumptions. There are a lot of countries in this world and people generally use English to trade, but America itself is often quite irrelevant. Then your waffle about the Reds in charge of the economy. Who said anything about Reds? Why would Reds be in charge of anything? Another pointless assumption. Also, this idea that America is to thank for people studying English. Again you fail to note that countries trade in English, that people go on holiday and speak in English and there are many countries in the world as mentioned before. You trade with Malaysia, then you use English as the medium of exchange. You travel to Hong Kong, then will probably use some English. You are full of yourself if you think it is all about America and kneeling for flags.
Nobody owes you anything as you quite rightly point out. Unless you are flippy flopping again.
Off subject I know but I've gotta ask.
Brock did you ever sort the problem of the Somalian in the church?
Personally I am looking forward to the next time an NFL owner wants to ask for a publicly funded stadium oh I will THOROUGHLY enjoy that debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
NFL Owner: "We need money to build our....."
The People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yii1u2Lz-II
Football’s decline has some high schools disbanding teams
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Shock poll: NFL now least liked sport, core fans down 31%
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sh...rticle/2636837
Well, Well, Well looky what we have here
A staged protest by Trump and Pence. How insulting to the intellect of people that voted for them.
Players are really oppressed making $32,000,000
Peter Schrager claims an Indianapolis cab driver kicked him out over player protests
http://awfulannouncing.com/fox/peter...-protests.html
“I live in New York, you live in New York, and I also do stuff in L.A., and I sometimes think, ‘All right, here’s my worldview.’ I was in Indianapolis, doing a game in Indianapolis, and a cab driver picks me up and says ‘What do you do for a living?’ and I say ‘Well, I work in the NFL.’ And he stops the car, turns around and says ‘You can get out of the car. The NFL is dead to me. The NFL, the fact that these guys take knees, I will never watch the NFL again.’ It was the first time I had a real-life experience face-to-face with somebody who was that charged up about this issue. And I said ‘Wow, that’s crazy.’ And the more you talk to fans who aren’t on the two coasts, the more you aren’t in blue-state territory, this is a real deal and it is affecting the bottom line. And the owners are seeing this.”
It's like this, Americans are proud people, they are friendly they aren't hateful (just speaking in general)....some of them might even agree with the reasons that caused the players to protest, the issue is they don't want the flag, the country, service men and women disrespected as a means of protest.
There's times to protest, there's ways to protest...during your actual job.....not an acceptable time to protest UNLESS you're quitting your job.
Personally speaking I think when we start equating disrespect of a flag or banner to that of actual veterans is when we jump the shark. The time to protest in America is exactly the 'time' you as an American choose baring physical dumb shat. Has Kaepernick stared on Dancing with the Stars yet?
The problem @Spicoli is that the players doing the kneeling wish to be perceived in a certain way, they would like to be the New Freedom Riders or New De-segregationists fighting for their right to be served at the lunch counter....and it comes across as tone deaf because they are paid millions of dollars to play a GAME and the average everyday fan just wants to watch football (or rather USED to). If I decided to protest at my job regardless of WHAT I was protesting I'd probably either be fired or given a talking to about alienating business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
What players decide to do in their FREE time is on them, and THAT is when they can draw attention to themselves and make an impact in the communities they would like to help. And you know what, most fans would jump at the chance to help out....but most fans simply aren't going to be OK with kneeling during the Anthem.
I've said it before I'll say it again, there are 2 times on the field where rivals (both fans and players) are reminded that in LIFE they play on the same team....#1 The National Anthem #2 Post Game handshake/prayer/etc. That's when players and fans should all be mindful that it is just a game and we're very lucky to have this entertainment.
Kneeling for the Anthem isn't as bad IMO as burning the flag or spitting on veterans, but it's distasteful...now I get the message that is TRYING to be sent "Well Eric Garner being choked to death is distasteful" :rolleyes: which, A) He wasn't choked to death he had a heart attack (not a strawman argument since this is what BLM actually believes) and B ) yeah, I agree it's not a good look when the Mayor of NYC decides to crack down on loose cigarette sales because the city is losing tax revenue and nobody should die for that.
Trayvon Martin, physically attacked George Zimmerman, and Zimmerman had a gun, and Zimmerman feared for his life...it doesn't make Zimmerman a GOOD person or a BAD person it makes him a person who was in that moment scared for his life.
Tamir Rice, that's a tough situation to watch as well, I don't agree with how that was handled.
Philando Castille, again, tough situation I don't agree with how that was handled.
Being a policeman is hard work, it's an appealing job for power hungry assholes, it is, but ALSO not every single cop is a murderer.
Wouldn't you think instead of saying "What do we want dead cops when do we want it now!" or "pigs in a blanket fry 'em like bacon" maybe, just MAYBE we need the community to strengthen their ties to the local law enforcement and in doing so criminals might be less likely to shoot cops and vice versa, I'd like for us to all be neighbors or at least act like neighbors....but if an NFL multimillionaire wishes to lecture me, then tah tah I'm off to go deer hunting or play/watch ice hockey because I'm not a guy with which they have a problem, I'd like to just watch football, but now I'm over it, I'm not a policeman, I'm just an average guy who likewise doesn't want to be bothered by the cops, but the way in which you deliver a message matters and not only have they fumbled on that part they have the hubris to continue attempting to get this message across....and to a lot of fans that message comes across as "If you don't agree with us don't watch us play!" and a lot of fans are saying "Ok then, bye".
ESPN Can’t Afford Monday Night Football Any More
https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/e...ight-football/
That's one way to look at it, Lyle... and I respect it. However, looking at it another way, what are the chances Colin is going to get interviewed by 20/20 in order to get his views on what's happening in the U.S. today, particularly the white cop/black man thing? That's right... absolutely zilch. Nobody at CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN is even remotely interested in interviewing a "dumb jock" about the state of affairs in the country today. All they want to know is how bad does your knee hurt.... or why did you not see that cornerback lurking when you threw that 4th quarter interception. We pigeonhole our athletes into the roles exactly where we want them. Talk sports... or shut up and go back to the weight room. I choose to give him credit for doing something he HAD to know was going to have negative repercussions. People tend to take advantage of the podiums they're given. In this case, he did what he knew would be a high profile, controversial thing.
only 1 way to look at it Spicoli:
we cannot protest on our jobs, dunno bout u, but we get fired in America for taking a knee in the office and doing political statements at work.
Therefore:
FIRE THEIR STUPID IGNORANT ASSES
Don't know about where you work but we don't have mandated moments to pledge or recite oaths before we clock in or on the clock. Technically speaking what a ball player does prior to the start of official game time is on them I'd imagine. Hell players didn't even take the field during anthem until what, less than a decade ago? They also had a owner-player meeting and decided to meet later keeping things as they are in the interim? Sounds like a business addressing things internally and it is literally none of my business though I'm free to burn as many jerseys and ball caps with a flag logo on them that I want. Not sure what makes players ignorant and just think you guys in such a rabble rabble roar up are almost giving these players too much credit for having an impact on my personal life they really do not have. It really is a non issue in my eyes and simply a shiny object. Meanwhile during the next massive fight I like majority of fans will be griping about listening to multiple anthems being dragged out before a fight :-X. And I won't be standing and chances are I'll be consuming large amounts of adult beverages and typing on a keyboard or god forbid taking a quick wiz as not to miss a round. Surely does not make me any less of a proud American and believer in this Republic.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
i'm sure the anthem is part of thhe game, the whole production, fans are there, cameras rolling, you cannot do political statements at work AND YOU KNOW IT.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliDon't know about where you work but we don't have mandated moments to pledge or recite oaths before we clock in or on the clock. Technically speaking what a ball player does prior to the start of official game time is on them I'd imagine. Hell players didn't even take the field during anthem until what, less than a decade ago? They also had a owner-player meeting and decided to meet later keeping things as they are in the interim? Sounds like a business addressing things internally and it is literally none of my business though I'm free to burn as many jerseys and ball caps with a flag logo on them that I want. Not sure what makes players ignorant and just think you guys in such a rabble rabble roar up are almost giving these players too much credit for having an impact on my personal life they really do not have. It really is a non issue in my eyes and simply a shiny object. Meanwhile during the next massive fight I like majority of fans will be griping about listening to multiple anthems being dragged out before a fight :-X. And I won't be standing and chances are I'll be consuming large amounts of adult beverages and typing on a keyboard or god forbid taking a quick wiz as not to miss a round. Surely does not make me any less of a proud American and believer in this Republic.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
So, military fly overs previously or currently paid for by DOD, same as military appreciation days, a National Anthem sang proudly for thousands, teams visiting White House and Presidents calling teams and a football field size American flag flowing over the players field..but sure no political statements of any type allowed 'at work'. Gotcha :thumb:.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbusti'm sure the anthem is part of thhe game, the whole production, fans are there, cameras rolling, you cannot do political statements at work AND YOU KNOW IT.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliDon't know about where you work but we don't have mandated moments to pledge or recite oaths before we clock in or on the clock. Technically speaking what a ball player does prior to the start of official game time is on them I'd imagine. Hell players didn't even take the field during anthem until what, less than a decade ago? They also had a owner-player meeting and decided to meet later keeping things as they are in the interim? Sounds like a business addressing things internally and it is literally none of my business though I'm free to burn as many jerseys and ball caps with a flag logo on them that I want. Not sure what makes players ignorant and just think you guys in such a rabble rabble roar up are almost giving these players too much credit for having an impact on my personal life they really do not have. It really is a non issue in my eyes and simply a shiny object. Meanwhile during the next massive fight I like majority of fans will be griping about listening to multiple anthems being dragged out before a fight :-X. And I won't be standing and chances are I'll be consuming large amounts of adult beverages and typing on a keyboard or god forbid taking a quick wiz as not to miss a round. Surely does not make me any less of a proud American and believer in this Republic.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
the entire subject is based on emotional reaction, but hey all the power to ya wherever you land on the matter. We're 'Muricans, we protest and rise up and we literally wrote the book.
dude r u seriously saying that military flyovers and patriotism are "political statements"????? Seriously????!!!!! @SpicoliQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSo, military fly overs previously or currently paid for by DOD, same as military appreciation days, a National Anthem sang proudly for thousands, teams visiting White House and Presidents calling teams and a football field size American flag flowing over the players field..but sure no political statements of any type allowed 'at work'. Gotcha :thumb:.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbusti'm sure the anthem is part of thhe game, the whole production, fans are there, cameras rolling, you cannot do political statements at work AND YOU KNOW IT.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliDon't know about where you work but we don't have mandated moments to pledge or recite oaths before we clock in or on the clock. Technically speaking what a ball player does prior to the start of official game time is on them I'd imagine. Hell players didn't even take the field during anthem until what, less than a decade ago? They also had a owner-player meeting and decided to meet later keeping things as they are in the interim? Sounds like a business addressing things internally and it is literally none of my business though I'm free to burn as many jerseys and ball caps with a flag logo on them that I want. Not sure what makes players ignorant and just think you guys in such a rabble rabble roar up are almost giving these players too much credit for having an impact on my personal life they really do not have. It really is a non issue in my eyes and simply a shiny object. Meanwhile during the next massive fight I like majority of fans will be griping about listening to multiple anthems being dragged out before a fight :-X. And I won't be standing and chances are I'll be consuming large amounts of adult beverages and typing on a keyboard or god forbid taking a quick wiz as not to miss a round. Surely does not make me any less of a proud American and believer in this Republic.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
the entire subject is based on emotional reaction, but hey all the power to ya wherever you land on the matter. We're 'Muricans, we protest and rise up and we literally wrote the book.
Colin gets paid to strap on a helmet and run offensive plays as QB. Not to stand during the national anthem.
Kudos to him for expressing his personal beliefs in a way he knows will rain shit down on top of his head.
The NFL is a tax exempt business......it would really be a shame if something changed all that ;)
I'm fine with there not being flyovers at NFL games or what have you.....either stand for the Anthem or stay in the locker room do your protesting on YOUR time not on company time.
Anything wrong with that?
If he stayed in the locker room, no one would even notice, except his coach and team, maybe. This way, he's drawing attention to an issue most people would rather see buried in page 90 of the newspaper (where they still print those). Again with the ostrich analogy. Just because the ostrich sticks his head in the sand, it doesn't mean the problems around him automatically go away. Colin took a brave stand, and is paying the consequences. Good for him.
You misunderstand, I'm saying the TEAMS they can either stand altogether or stay in the locker room altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
If Colin Kaepernick would like to address his own personal pet projects on his own time then he's free to do that. He's free to talk them up when he's interviewed, he's free to invite fans to the ghetto and help do community service, and they'd be willing to help him out, I guarantee it black white, red, brown, it wouldn't matter.....but American people are proud of their flag and they're proud of their National Anthem, their proud of their military and first responders.....kneeling stands in direct opposition to that whether the kneelers would like to believe that or not.
I AM speaking English right? This is getting through right?
Perception is reality, and when a Che Guevara t-shirt wearing Woke ass MultiMillionaire feels like lecturing everyday Americans on how unfair and unjust our society is, don't expect many people to lean in and listen real intently to his bullshit, they're just there to watch some football, leave the politics at home.....or ya know, don't and just have fun trying to find a team. Be a martyr because you've got a stupid way to try and spread a message.
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Originally Posted by El KabongYou misunderstand, I'm saying the TEAMS they can either stand altogether or stay in the locker room altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
If Colin Kaepernick would like to address his own personal pet projects on his own time then he's free to do that. He's free to talk them up when he's interviewed, he's free to invite fans to the ghetto and help do community service, and they'd be willing to help him out, I guarantee it black white, red, brown, it wouldn't matter.....but American people are proud of their flag and they're proud of their National Anthem, their proud of their military and first responders.....kneeling stands in direct opposition to that whether the kneelers would like to believe that or not.
I AM speaking English right? This is getting through right?
Perception is reality, and when a Che Guevara t-shirt wearing Woke ass MultiMillionaire feels like lecturing everyday Americans on how unfair and unjust our society is, don't expect many people to lean in and listen real intently to his bullshit, they're just there to watch some football, leave the politics at home.....or ya know, don't and just have fun trying to find a team. Be a martyr because you've got a stupid way to try and spread a message.
The language bit is unnecessary and abrasive.
I think I already stated earlier in the thread that, were Colin to try and express his message through regular interviews, it'd be like "Uhh... yeah... see you later Colin. Hey "other QB".... so what did you think of your team's offensive showing today?" Again... when the king wants the court jester's opinion on something, he'll beat it out of him. Bottom line here is: you don't think there's a problem or there has EVER been a problem. So when someone who DOES think there's a problem interrupts your precious football PRE-game with a couple of minutes of kneel-down demonstration, it sticks in your craw.
I did not mean for the language bit to be a dig at you, honestly I did not. I am just kind of at a loss as to what the actual fuck is going on in this country where it's just ok to burn everything down about a country just because in the past we haven't gotten things 100% correct and I have no doubt that is what Colin Kaepernick wants to do, and I have no doubt that's what Black Lives Matter wants to do, how do I know? I've read their demands lists and yes they are INSANE HORSE SHIT.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
You don't think ESPN, which has become weaponized politically, would give Colin Kaepernick the air time? I'd be willing to bet they compare Colin Kaepernick to Jackie Robinson and Muhammad Ali before too long, I'd be willing to bet it actually.
Colin Kaepernick got a free ride to the University of Nevada, he was paid MILLIONS by the San Francisco 49ers, HE opted out of his contract, his girlfriend stirred the turd with the Baltimore Ravens who were going to make him an offer....I'm sorry, I fail to see how I the "privileged white guy" have more privilege than that dude. If I protested at work I'd be fired, FACT.
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Originally Posted by El KabongI did not mean for the language bit to be a dig at you, honestly I did not. I am just kind of at a loss as to what the actual fuck is going on in this country where it's just ok to burn everything down about a country just because in the past we haven't gotten things 100% correct and I have no doubt that is what Colin Kaepernick wants to do, and I have no doubt that's what Black Lives Matter wants to do, how do I know? I've read their demands lists and yes they are INSANE HORSE SHIT.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
You don't think ESPN, which has become weaponized politically, would give Colin Kaepernick the air time? I'd be willing to bet they compare Colin Kaepernick to Jackie Robinson and Muhammad Ali before too long, I'd be willing to bet it actually.
Colin Kaepernick got a free ride to the University of Nevada, he was paid MILLIONS by the San Francisco 49ers, HE opted out of his contract, his girlfriend stirred the turd with the Baltimore Ravens who were going to make him an offer....I'm sorry, I fail to see how I the "privileged white guy" have more privilege than that dude. If I protested at work I'd be fired, FACT.
"In the past we haven't gotten things 100% correct"? I don't think Colin is protesting the past. I think he's protesting what he perceives is a general injustice in the law enforcement system skewed against young blacks. Whether he's right or not, I think there's been cases on BOTH sides of the issue. Meaning there's been young blacks who have practically begged to be shot...... and there's been white cops who have been completely abusive without any provocation. In Colin's mind, not enough is being done about this. So he protests. It's his choice. We cannot use the phrase "freedom of expression" only when it suits us.
BLM? I'd be willing to bet there's members on both sides of the spectrum. I'd bet there's the genuinely concerned, law-abiding blacks, who fear the trend that appears to be taking hold...... just like I'd bet there's the trashy opportunist blacks (like Denilson) who can't wait to play the victim card for their own benefit and just because they love to stir up the shit. I can't condemn a whole organization by generalizing against it.
Yes... Colin personally has been privileged. He's had the sort of financial opportunities afforded to very few of us. But rather than hold that against him, I instead commend him for taking a stand he knows will be wildly unpopular and controversial, even putting his very career in jeopardy. I once lived in Houston, and witnessed first hand some very disgusting racist violence toward Vietnamese shrimping boats and owners. This was far removed from me. I had a very good job and lived in a very nice neighborhood. My English was impeccable, so my friends didn't see me as a Puerto Rican... just one of the guys. But yet those injustices happening to someone ELSE bothered me just the same. I wrote several times to the newspaper... and had many letters published. Colin himself may not be getting pulled over and punched senseless by white cops. But he's seen it enough times to where it bothers him.
I believe Kaepernick mostly punted his credibility when he refused to attend the player-owners talks to address the topic. It also has to be said the entire subject was waning and to a few individuals until the President of the United States interjected himself and rallied as a fetch toy for base. Americans in general don't like to be told 'how and when to' protest. Bit of the whole point.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://deadspin.com/report-colin-ka...mee-1819951388
This is all I found on the subject, so I'm not convinced that Colin "refused" to attend any meetings. Also, I trust Roger Goodell about as far as I could throw him... so I'm generally not inclined to take the NFL's side on too many issues. As far as the subject waning, it's probably just a "longer than usual" lull in the hostilities. I'm convinced the next Slager-Scott incident is right around the corner.
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Well BLM which Colin supports certainly believes that America's past sins make the present state of the nation worthless.
There are plenty of studies on going about law enforcement interaction with the public: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...shootings.html
My argument is not about the reasons Colin Kaepernick is protesting, it's about HOW he has chosen to protest which has won him very few fans. I am just relaying a message I KNOW FOR A FACT that the NFL players are not hearing, the NFL owners and TV execs are seeing it, but the players are CLUELESS about it. Look into the stands, those empty seats are going to bite the league in the ass.
"But rather than hold that against him," Well that's the difference between us, because he nor BLM are extending that courtesy to me or any other white person, regardless of socioeconomic status. Apparently to BLM all white people are Kennedy's. And for the billionth time (and I know that you know this) Black Lives Matter is 100% Socialist/Communist, it's not about "fair" it's about dismantling an entire system that being OUR system, our system which hasn't always been right, hasn't always been perfect, but we all do pretty well.
I've gone on Colin Kaepernick's twitter feed, he's retweeted Tariq Nasheed :rolleyes:, a Washington Post story about and I quote "The nativist and white nationalist roots of the Pledge of Allegiance", Shaun King :-X....that ain't winning me over to his side of the debate, Tariq Nasheed is a Black Supremacist which somehow carries less weight than calling someone a White Supremacist, that Washington Post story is a fucking joke, the 'Pledge of Allegiance' is "nativist" ya don't fucking say, and Shaun King is an actual fraud 1. He's literally doing blackface but it's acceptable because of his politics 2. he's taken money given in good faith to nonprofits he started and that money has vanished.....he also works for The Young Turks who are Armenian Genocide denying Communist/Socialists.
The company you keep eh.
I don't care if Kaepernick plays football ever again....I don't want anyone wrongly/mistakenly shot by the police EVER regardless of skin color, and I want everyone to live peacefully in our current system of government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZbOgaacSxg
Ray 'Obstruction of Justice in a Double Homicide Case' Lewis wanted to sign Colin Kaepernick before Nessa sent out that tweet.
I don't give 2 shits if Kap plays ever again, I'm not watching the NFL anymore it no longer interests me. I'm also not crying for someone trying to make a political statement at work and that employer no longer wants to hire that employee.
The people can agree with Kap, and hell maybe they do, but they can also disagree with how he's gone about his protest that too is acceptable. People have voted with their feet, their money, and their remote controls and the NFL is feeling it BIG TIME.
The number of players participating was a drop in the bucket prior to POTUS playing politics with it. Some of the 13 players and nfl vp Lockhart indicated Kaepernick was invited to initial meeting though his attorney says otherwise. He's a grown man and started the ball rolling so should represent his position I believe. But under advice of attorney and the grievance he filed has to be noted also.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://deadspin.com/report-colin-ka...mee-1819951388
This is all I found on the subject, so I'm not convinced that Colin "refused" to attend any meetings. Also, I trust Roger Goodell about as far as I could throw him... so I'm generally not inclined to take the NFL's side on too many issues. As far as the subject waning, it's probably just a "longer than usual" lull in the hostilities. I'm convinced the next Slager-Scott incident is right around the corner.
This just in...
California NAACP calls for removing ‘Star-Spangled Banner’ as national anthem
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...spangled-bann/
....now I'd like to remind everyone of the Confederate statue issue and how now statues/monuments to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Teddy Roosevelt have been defaced because they are deemed by the flavor of the month to be "on the wrong side of history" :rolleyes:
This will be fun, and SURELY not be divisive, SURELY this issue, THIS will bring us all together...I'm excited about it to be honest.
Imagine that. People having to follow the law. your boss tells you no kneeling next to your computer cubicle in the office please. And then you sign a contract for employment which includes that stipulation. Then you feel like a weekend warrior and you decide to kneel next to your computer cubicle in front of 40 other office workers some of whom feel that it is not workplace-related and that it is too disruptive. Then the boss fires you because of it.Quote:
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Imagine that. What has this world come to? A boss who holds you accountable for the contract you signed and then enforces the law. @El Kabong