Reparations for slavery...... yay or nay?

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Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

I sense you calming down and attempting to make some sense here.

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You're the emotional one. Not me. You are the one who does not have the intelligence so has to resort to insults. I've debated with tons of white supremacist. I know how you think. I know what you are going to say. I know what's in your heart. I know your gonna respond. i know you dude. i know you.

Now you're talking! The verbal bullshit meter is cranking up again. Keep it coming bro..... some more nuggets are bound to surface.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

You'll always feel the way you do, although I'd venture to say somewhere along the line you'll have a change of heart. Maybe...... maybe not.

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As long as the system of

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Strange though, that you've never met (in person, I mean) a white person who has convinced you that your extremism is unwarranted.

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I don't need to meet you in person. What ? Because you are polite ?

I said "a white person". Wasn't talking about me. I don't do charity psycho ward patient work. You need to work on that reading comprehension problem.

Most white people are polite. That doesn't throw me.

This is pretty close to a nugget of wisdom, but I've raised my standards. You can do better than that.

Racism is not an angry thing. It's not emotional for the most part. It's a system. Just this week there was a white women who went over to Africa (Uganda) and killed 100 kids. She was polite. She was nice on the front end. But she was a white supremacist on the back end and she's chilling and she won't be punished

You let black Nigerian go to Germany, France, Spain. Argentina and kill 100 white kids.

You'd never hear the end of it. Trump would tweeting about 24-7. Nigeria would be sanctioned to death. There'll be all kinds of punishments. But that's white supremacy. Whites can kill black people and as long as they get their lie straight, they'll be ok.

Meh..... nothing new here. You're not supplying me enough of your hysterical pronouncements lately. It's ok, I'll wait.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

It's ok to be angry at racism. It's not ok to adjudicate it to every person on Earth.

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You keep on trying to make this an emotional thing

"I'm angry" "I'm angry"

You are the one doing the insulting. Not me

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If you hadn't noticed, I tend to switch over from trying to reason with you as a human being, to ridiculing you because I see the futility in trying to do so. The ridiculing part is fun....... the reasoning attempts have become tedious a long time ago. This leads to boredom..... and I'm not one to sustain conversations in which I've already been bored to death. You'll have to step up your game, if I am expected to allow you to keep entertaining us.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

If you hadn't noticed, I tend to switch over from trying to reason with you as a human being, to ridiculing you because I see the futility in trying to do so.

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You simply cannot muster an effective refutation of my argument based upon logic and facts; and then, being either overcome with emotion as you cleave to your refuted argument, or being untutored in the fact that personal attacks during a logical argument diminish the standing of your own position.

But many internet arguments have nothing to do with facts, but a lot to do with raising or protecting one’s social status.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

The ridiculing part is fun.

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Of course that's point of racism. Racism is fun. Harming black ppl is fun for the white supremacist.

A white supremacist bar owner in Texas put up a racist sign with the word N*GGER. When customers complained and exposed this, the owner claimed “it was a joke”. White supremacists ALWAYS try to hide their racism behind “jokes”

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White supremacists are always using deceptive talking points i.e "jokes", "gun control", "suspicious person", "Chicago gun violence", "fear for my life", "trespassing", etc. to mask their intent, which is to subjugate, terrorize, brutalize and kill Black people.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

the reasoning attempts have become tedious a long time ago.

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What's reasonable to the wolf is not going to be reasonable to the sheep. What's reasonable to the fox is not going to be reasonable to the hound

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

This leads to boredom..... and I'm not one to sustain conversations in which I've already been bored to death.

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Well you are the one who starts these racialized topics. Not me.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

You'll have to step up your game, if I am expected to allow you to keep entertaining us.

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White people have always been willing to let black people entertain them.

Even at the height of racism, you still had your Muhammad Ali’s, Jim Brown’s, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson’s, Eusebio’s, Pele’s and Hank Aaron’s.
Hell when Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth’s home run record. He broke a record for receiving almost a million letters of hate mail from white supremacists all over the US who were upset about a Black man beating Ruth’s record.

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Even to this day

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But the real question is - How have they felt about blacks being their bankers, doctors, bosses, colleagues, neighbors?

Those letters..... those are the kind of racists you prefer, right? Just want to make sure I know how your warped mind works. Since every white is racist, you prefer those who come out in the open so that...... like the tiger..... you can see them coming a mile away. But those who are under the surface..... those are the ones you don't like..... right? Those are the ones you don't see coming.

Just want to make sure I get this shit right.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Those letters..... those are the kind of racists you prefer, right?

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All whites are racist but let's run with your argument about some whites are not racist

So your getting attacked by a bunch of killer bees and then some bees say "But hey !! Not all bees are sting" OK. Now how does that help you who is getting stung to the max, right now ? Does these so called good bees none stinging bees fight the other killer bees from stinging you to death ? No. They don't. But they're still sitting up here saying "But hey !! Not all bees are sting"

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Since every white is racist, you prefer those who come out in the open so that...... like the tiger..... you can see them coming a mile away.

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Of course

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

But those who are under the surface..... those are the ones you don't like..... right? Those are the ones you don't see coming.

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Like you

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So 2/3rds of the mail Hank Aaron recieved was in support of him then? Even way back in 1974 in Georgia of all places...pretty impressive.

If America is so racist, then why vote for Obama. Hey, I was more naive then too. After 8 years of Bush I was down with it. Most white people are polite and it is because you take people as individuals. Now if you are going to in swinging telling them that all white people are racist, you won't find politeness. Thus confirming your 'All white people are racist agenda'. Like a broken record, Dennis. Tito why do you keep humoring him?

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

If America is so racist, then why vote for Obama. Hey, I was more naive then too. After 8 years of Bush I was down with it. Most white people are polite and it is because you take people as individuals. Now if you are going to in swinging telling them that all white people are racist, you won't find politeness. Thus confirming your 'All white people are racist agenda'. Like a broken record, Dennis. Tito why do you keep humoring him?

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'Cause apparently I'm now the condescending type. At least that's the latest bandwagon being used now.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

If America is so racist, then why vote for Obama. Hey, I was more naive then too. After 8 years of Bush I was down with it. Most white people are polite and it is because you take people as individuals. Now if you are going to in swinging telling them that all white people are racist, you won't find politeness. Thus confirming your 'All white people are racist agenda'. Like a broken record, Dennis. Tito why do you keep humoring him?

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You are making two mistakes, the first mistake you make and to be honest if you’re looking to understand why discussions between blacks and whites about racism are often difficult, it's often because whites and blacks are often not talking about the same thing.

To whites, racism is seen mostly as individual thing like saying a slur. For blacks, it's that too, but racism namely, is the pattern and practice of policies and social institutions, which have the effect of perpetuating deeply embedded structural inequalities between people on the basis of race. It's the experience of systematized discrimination in housing, employment, schools or the justice system. It's the knowledge that one’s entire group is under suspicion, at risk of being treated negatively because of stereotypes held by persons with the power to act on the basis of those beliefs.

To blacks racism is systemic. To whites, it's purely personal.

I suppose these differences make sense. Whites have not been the targets of systemic racism, so it is much easier for you to view the matter in personal terms.

Second mistake you make is thinking that racism is an angry thing. We don't need politeness. Black ppl need justice.

Polite people change nothing. They never have and they never will. Nice polite white people were the ones who didn’t own black folks during the period of enslavement but also didn’t raise their voices against the ones who did. Polite white people are the ones who didn’t spit on sit-in demonstrators but also had no problem spending money with businesses that had remained segregated all those years.

One can be polite and not see that which is right before them. The officer who killed Eric Garner might be polite. Likewise, the grand jury that decided not to indict the officer and the grand juries all over the USA who rarely send police officers to Shawshank when they kill a black person might well be filled with polite people.

So what ?

Their politeness made them watch an officer kill a man who posed no threat to him, no charging him like a bull, or as Darren Wilson put it to justify his killing of Mike Brown, like “a demon.” So too, I suspect there may be at least a few polite white folks on that grand jury outside of Dayton that refused to indict the officer who killed John Crawford in the Walmart there.

Polite white people can watch cold blooded murder on video—a video that completely contradicts what the officer said about the incident, and also gives the lie to the claims of the possibly nice white man who first alerted police to Crawford’s presence in the store—and still see nothing at all in the way of a crime.

So too, the cop who killed 12-year old Tamir Rice in Cleveland and then lied about it—a lie we can all be quite sure of because that killing too is on tape—might well have been polite. . And those who will seek to rationalize these killing (and there are plenty who do), might be nicer than say, a sadist like Bull Connor.

As a God-fearing Christian, I came across this instruction in the Bible today:

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this'. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT


So, I'm thinking about Filipinos or Serbs at the moment. There are some Slovaks in the next village too and quite a large Somali population in Bristol. I'm prepared to travel to get the right deal if necessary.

Does anybody have any advice or experience in these matters?

The reason for Filipinos being first choice is that I understand that the majority are quite devout Catholics, so they would follow the guidance clearly described below. I definitely think the best people to enslave might have to be Christian. Buddhists are no good, because they just think they will be reincarnated so this life doesn't matter and Muslims are out because they don't eat bacon.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

Reparations via separation.

Slavery some of the traveling community had slaves using vunrable people to do ground work keeping them locked up in applying conditions taken off the streets there families thinking they were dead some of these poor buggers had been in slaved for years. This happend very recently not a couple of hundred years ago.!
Just something to chew on chaps history you cannot change in reality slavery is still with us to this present day people will if they can in slave the vunrable in theses modern times.!

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

Slavery some of the traveling community had slaves using vunrable people to do ground work keeping them locked up in applying conditions taken off the streets there families thinking they were dead some of these poor buggers had been in slaved for years. This happend very recently not a couple of hundred years ago.!
Just something to chew on chaps history you cannot change in reality slavery is still with us to this present day people will if they can in slave the vunrable in theses modern times.!

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All slavery is wrong

We have to deal with our own country first and the dark history that it has. There are some people on this forum who think that just because other countries have also had slavery means that we cannot address what happened here in this country.

Not talkin about you dia Bando.

But some people are living in a logical fallacy world. Their arguments in which they move the goalposts to other countries are invalid and unsound. It's just a distraction to avoid the truth.

It's like the people who politicize mask-wearing.

Got home today and first thing I saw from a loooong time friend via babbling FB was "THEY'RE DEMANDING TEXAS AS REPERATIONS" along with vids of armed black militia groups and the caption 'this shouldn't be allowed'....:cwm13:. Had to tell her many on the left said the same when armed groups occupied Statehouse in Michigan. Amazing the 2nd Amendment has a color technicality :-X

I truly believe belligerent retards are taking over.

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I truly believe belligerent retards are taking over.

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Well Brockton did finally come back

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I truly believe belligerent retards are taking over.

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Well Brockton did finally come back

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Your hegemony is over.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I truly believe belligerent retards are taking over.

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Well Brockton did finally come back

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Your hegemony is over.

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Wow hegemony have you been studying for the SAT?

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Originally Posted by Master

I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.

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@Master absolutely, 100% great example, the Jews suffered tremendously as did the Armenians at the hands of the Turks, and reparations are certainly necessary on many levels. Black Americans you could say had 400 years of this shit, which is far worse in many ways.