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    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.


    Well, that was their decision and it would be interesting to see how they handled/managed that. Difference between the two being that WWII was in the 1940's, whereas slavery was way the hell before that. Slavery was also a lot more widespread..... a practice considered normal at that time and carried out by many white societies over a very much wider area. Attempting to pay reparations for slavery is opening a disastrous can of worms that would have no end. All it would accomplish is create more resentment and it would be impossible to handle. And again... by continuing to dredge up and wallow in the past, we're basically dooming any efforts to deal with the present and the future. I'm surprised this is even being debated and considered by Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
    Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.

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    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
    Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.
    No, they gave reparation to the Jewish community. If they can do it, then anyone can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
    Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.
    No, they gave reparation to the Jewish community. If they can do it, then anyone can.
    The Reparations Agreement between Israel and the Federal Republic of Germany was signed on September 10, 1952, and entered in force on March 27, 1953....WW2 ended in 1945.


    The African slave trade was ended by America in 1808 and slavery as a practice ended in America 1865. Also worth noting that Native Americans and free Blacks also held slaves so would their ancestors also pay these reparations? Also what of people whose ancestors never held slaves OR Blacks who came to the United States freely would they receive reparations? What of mixed race people? Would we see a return of the 1 drop rule? I for one wouldn't see such a turn of events as positive...it would be divisive and wrongheaded.



    So I'm going to go with NO on reparations. Not because slavery isn't wrong, it IS wrong and it's the original sin of America (among many other nations) and worldwide there are more slaves today than ever before and something should be done about that. But to relitigate the past over 150 after the War Between The States? That will reopen old wounds which won't be positive for anyone AND it would class a group of American citizens as permanent victims. History is often brutal and certain things nations end up lamenting....but this reparations nonsense is typical Democrat identity politics to rile up a base of voters they fear losing hold of which is exactly why it's being brought up by the Democrats, it's the ultimate pandering and it is frankly quite insulting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
    Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.
    No, they gave reparation to the Jewish community. If they can do it, then anyone can.
    Anyone can? Poor way to begin this argument. You are wrong by A degree that makes this toohard to argue.

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    Give us money because hundreds of years ago dead people were slaves? Hilarious.

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    Well, I am part black African and I have no personal angst about slavery (not saying it's not evil, but nobody in my family history was ever a slave). In fact, I suspect that some of my ancestors sold subjugated and weaker people to be slaves via Zanzibar.

    Understandably, Caribbean people or black people in other countries whose ancestors were enslaved get angry about it. There isn't really a burning sense of injustice amongst Africans from Africa.

    Reparations is difficult, there isn't a right answer. People have been impoverished and given little chance of success for generations, and it's not completely their fault. However, white people - and Arabs and Africans - around nowadays arent the ones who enslaved anybody.

    Where would the money come from, who would pay it, and who would get it? Would you have to prove your ancestors were slaves? What if it was only one great great grandparent? Would they only get a percentage? What if one ancestor was a slave and one was the owner (which happened a lot)? Would you have to pay yourself?
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    Well, I am part black African and I have no personal angst about slavery (not saying it's not evil, but nobody in my family history was ever a slave). In fact, I suspect that some of my ancestors sold subjugated and weaker people to be slaves via Zanzibar.

    Understandably, Caribbean people or black people in other countries whose ancestors were enslaved get angry about it. There isn't really a burning sense of injustice amongst Africans from Africa.

    Reparations is difficult, there isn't a right answer. People have been impoverished and given little chance of success for generations, and it's not completely their fault. However, white people - and Arabs and Africans - around nowadays arent the ones who enslaved anybody.

    Where would the money come from, who would pay it, and who would get it? Would you have to prove your ancestors were slaves? What if it was only one great great grandparent? Would they only get a percentage? What if one ancestor was a slave and one was the owner (which happened a lot)? Would you have to pay yourself?


    Thanks for weighing in and thanks for your honest vote.

    Yes, it would be a logistical nightmare.... which is why I believe in putting SOOOO much more weight into efforts to fix whatever inequalities exist today. That is so much easier to manage and put your hands around than going back to 200 years ago and attempt to right a wrong which in the end will probably polarize the races even more. Resentment is sure to bubble up on both sides of the racial divide.

    Thanks again for putting your opinion out there on a serious, real, and current issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
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    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
    Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.
    No, they gave reparation to the Jewish community. If they can do it, then anyone can.
    Anyone can? Poor way to begin this argument. You are wrong by A degree that makes this too hard to argue.
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    If reparations WERE to be approved, I'd then vote for every single slave descendant to get paid except for Denilson.

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    Reparations via separation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    I think Germany have given out reparations for the horror committed after the Second World War.
    Uh, nope. Germany was demanded to pay massive reparations after the first world war, which had a lot to do with causing the second. Its so obvious why this is always a bad idea.
    No, they gave reparation to the Jewish community. If they can do it, then anyone can.
    Anyone can? Poor way to begin this argument. You are wrong by A degree that makes this too hard to argue.
    Where there is a will, there is a way.
    So you're wanting a rematch of the War between The States? You think that'll be positive? Because it seems like that's what you're wanting.



    If reparations ever occur (and they won't on account of it's Democrat pandering because they're deathly afraid of being abandoned by a certain demographic) I'll be paying EXACTLY $0.00


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    No need for a rematch.

    Reparation has been done before, it could be done for this situation. I do not know the specific details how it happens because I have no real interest but if the will is there then I am sure it can be worked out.
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