India is choking to death - why isnt Greta over there?

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Beanz you are once again very aggressive in how you answer people who don't agree with you.
Is there a reason for the hostility ?
I personally think Greta is a sweet little girl, her message is clear and yes the planet is fucked the way we are going.
Greta uses planes, multi billion dollar boats isn't a great way to preach your message. But you Beanz are so aggressive for someone who is a liberal, I think the far left and far right are pretty similar in aggression to be honest.

Everyone have a nice happy day, I know i will :)

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Just booked two tickets for the Ballet and am about to go and cover a friends opening night (Exhibition), I am very happy, and look forward to a nice ale when I get home. Have a lovely weekend.

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I am not the biggest fan of Ballet but its always nice to get dressed up and see some culture.
May I ask what is the performance ? and where is it held ?

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It is in the Muff and so I will not need to take a plane ;D

It is 'Ballet Light' Matthew Bourne's ( not the Jazz Musician who I had the pleasure of working with earlier this year, the choreographer) version of Powell and Pressburgers 'The Red Shoes'.

Took the Mrs to see his version of Edward Scissorhands and his all male version of Swan Lake, which were both brilliant and I often work at this Theatre anyhoos so it is nice to be a punter for a change.

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Nice to see you refusing to engage with reality as per usual. Thought you would love such a great infographic. An animated graph like that one makes it quite clear who would have no problem putting a bag over their head. You love C02 so much stick a bag back over your head and breathe away.

I shall remember to ask you in future, as a recognized scientific expert on the environment, just like your big orange God, and ignore all the thousands of scientists who think you are both full of way more than just C02.

You factory farm bullshit

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The sun shines on plants helping them with their photosynthesis. During photosynthesis plants inhale CO2 and exhale Oxygen. Humans and animals inhale Oxygen and exhale CO2. Some Carbon is released into the soil and some forms of Oxygen climb into the atmosphere. This is pretty simple stuff here.


Well I don't trust the "OMG we're killing the Earth!" folks anymore than I trusted the Y2K folks or Mayan Calendar folks or Heaven's Gate Cult or whoever else who is just declaring the world is going to end. The Earth is going to be just fine. That said we should attempt to keep things as clean as possible and if that's truly the goal then shouldn't China and India bring their standards up to American and European levels? I mean it would be like if you had a split personality and 1 of them was vegan and ran marathons and the other ate like shit and was an alcoholic...the vegan marathoner can do things absolutely PERFECTLY but that personality ain't out running the other personality's shitty diet and alcoholism. And in this case America and Europe, we're doing more than our fair share, but there's China and India and they are the 800 pound chain smoking gorilla in the room fucking up our marathon time in this case....so yeah how's about they step up their game before Greta just dictates that air travel and beef are now verboten hmm?

All the "thousands of scientists" are paid by who? The government who seeks increasing control over and the compliance of their citizens.


"You factory farm bullshit"....yeah thanks I actually hunt, garden, and I also support my local farms but hey like ALWAYS it's whatever insult you'd like to blindly hurl at me to make you feel better about yourself. Do you eat what you hunt? Oh you don't hunt? Do you eat meat? Where does that come from? Do you eat vegetables? Do you grow them yourself? Where do they come from? How are they grown? ......or don't we want to stop and think about that glass house we live in before throwing stones at others?



'member that "hole in the ozone"? Whatever happened to that? member the population bomb? member global COOLING? member global WARMING?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncps_RYHoAI

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I probably shot my first Rabbit before your tiny feet walked on this planet mate, but just go ahead and assume you are a unique little broflake from one of Petersons acceptable Disney fillums ;D

And it is not an insult to remark on the fact that you do spread bullshit on an industrial scale here on the forum, much like Trump and your country does with intensive farming which is not great for anyone. It is just a fact. Look at the Trump thread it is about 87.9% Fake news

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Beanz you are once again very aggressive in how you answer people who don't agree with you.
Is there a reason for the hostility ?
I personally think Greta is a sweet little girl, her message is clear and yes the planet is fucked the way we are going.
Greta uses planes, multi billion dollar boats isn't a great way to preach your message. But you Beanz are so aggressive for someone who is a liberal, I think the far left and far right are pretty similar in aggression to be honest.

Everyone have a nice happy day, I know i will :)

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Aggressive? ;D

What do you want me to do wrap everything up in Pink Roses? I am not preaching a message I just have a different opinion to many and that is seen as bloody blasphemy around here. Next you will be pretending that there is no hostility in you calling people peasants and scum for the crime of not buying into your own world view ;)


What a bunch of broflakes

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I don't agree with many here , however I'm just chilled as its Friday and it will involve wine.
Try it you may chill out a bit. :)

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Had a nice Shiraz yesterday. Seriously mate all this angry Beanz stuff is pretty hilarious and in the heads of everyone else. It has gone way beyond boring and I am not about to mind my P's and Q's for Cunts fools like Brock FlatboxingFlan or anyone else

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Beanz come on, I am winding you up , say what the fuck you like as I do.
If you want to be angry feel free, and I will call peasants - peasants ;)
Like I have said in the past its all a bit of fun here.

PS. I have never called a fellow Saddo member a peasant ;)

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There's not a "one-size-fits-all" solution to climate issues or pollution. (I mention the two together because, whether or not one believes climate change is partly man-made, there's no denying the effect of totally man-made pollution on the planet).

By saying that, I'm saying that Greta's crusade may help in some aspects, but not necessarily others. If we can ignore sources, I believe the following article speaks to some of the fears some of us have.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...g-s-radicalism

The author is neither hating on, nor making fun of Greta. Yet he's making some valid points. For all her sudden fame, Greta remains a 16-year old, hardly a person with the capacity to understand all the nuances and complexity of demanding climate action in a world so diverse and complicated. He mentions Greta's backing and encouragement of extremist movements like Extinction Rebellion, whose handiwork we've already seen in the disruption of everyday life, much to the chagrin of everyday people just trying to get to work.

Not being a total Greta supporter does not necessarily translate into a hater of "anyone or anything that is unusual, unconventional, non traditional, foreign, etc." I recently read through a NG issue celebrating women, in which one of the highlighted issues is the struggle being faced in countries like India regarding the very safety of women. Many of these women, some very young in age, have taken matters into their own hands through demonstrations, civic actions, movements.... and have thrust themselves into the limelight. I totally applaud and support that. But I cannot hold a 16-year old Swedish girl from a fairly comfortable background in one of the world's least offensive countries (on environmental issues) in the same regard as I do these women who are practically and truly "fighting for their future." One smacks of sensationalism, stoked by behind the scene adults. The other is a true, desperate and personally-lived struggle. Not sure if I'm making myself understood here.

In the end, Greta's campaign may be helpful in some ways, and may be harmful in others. I still cringe at the thought of being in the shoes of a highly-educated climate professional... traveling to a summit to discuss climate change... and being subjected to a shrieking scolding by a 16-year old. But I will say this: At the very least it has put the environment at the forefront of conversations. Like her methods (or those behind the scenes) or not..... the unarguable fact is that by being controversial she has brought the conversation to the forefront.

Another complexity of climate change/pollution. While the U.S. may the worst offender in CO2 emissions, it would be globally foolish to ignore the countries rapidly catching up, like China. Not to mention the fact that CO2 emissions are but a portion of the whole climate change/pollution picture. Water pollution is a far more urgent matter, IMO, and an animated graph on that would probably look a bit different. Like any complex issue, it's simply not a matter of "either or". It will take a multi-pronged approach, and by that I mean that while countries like the U.S. are to be expected to do their part, the huge offenders on the other side of the globe cannot just be given a pass because..... well, because "we don't have any control over what they do." We share the same planet, and it's everyone's business.

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In many ways we are not just on opposite sides of the street but in entirely different universes. I don't consider Extinction Rebellion to be an extremist movement at all. The fact that absolute lying scumbags like Johnson and Trump feel threatened by Thunberg and ER is a ringing validation of everything they are doing. There are plenty of highly educated climate professionals backing every thing that Thunberg has said. She is not shreiking at them or scolding them, she is urging people to listen to them, whilst so many are acting as apologists for the inaction of the likes of Macron, Trump (two sides of the same coin) etc.

She cannot help her background and I think for many their issue really is with her because she is female, and because they cannot accept that young people are capable of achieving amazing things. Speaking from personal experience, working with young people ,many of whom have very difficult and complex , health and social issues, it never ceases to amaze me what they can achieve.

What i find sensationalist and frankly hilarious, is the idea of people like the United States leveling sanctions against other countries when their own environmental policies are so backwards and ignorant.

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Different universes indeed. You're obviously entitled to your opinions as I am to mine. I do consider ER an extremist movement, because to me the very talk of extinction is sensationalist. We need more down-to-Earth, sensible conversations and action.... more than we need the running around like headless chickens seeking confrontation with anyone who doesn't share our views.

Trump is Trump, and I have a problem with 99.9999% of the things he says and thinks. It still doesn't change my views on 16-year old Swedish girls scolding professionals two or three times her age, and with a much more realistic view of the world and how it works. The female part of Greta I'll leave to those who actually do have a problem with that. I made clear in my previous post that I heartily applaud movements like those by young girls in India, fighting for the right not to be murdered, beaten and raped in record numbers.

The U.S. has a long way to go when it comes to renewable energy and the environment in general. It can certainly take the example of other countries, where technologies are being put to use in a vast number of ways..... all environmental-friendly. I have no issues with that. However, the white elephant in the room still remains those vast, powerful countries racing to catch up to the rest of the highly developed countries..... while putting the environment at the low end of the totem pole. Why it's a sin to address that is beyond me.

And @Dark Lord Al ....... I'm way ahead of you buddy.


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There's not a "one-size-fits-all" solution to climate issues or pollution. (I mention the two together because, whether or not one believes climate change is partly man-made, there's no denying the effect of totally man-made pollution on the planet).

By saying that, I'm saying that Greta's crusade may help in some aspects, but not necessarily others. If we can ignore sources, I believe the following article speaks to some of the fears some of us have.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...g-s-radicalism

The author is neither hating on, nor making fun of Greta. Yet he's making some valid points. For all her sudden fame, Greta remains a 16-year old, hardly a person with the capacity to understand all the nuances and complexity of demanding climate action in a world so diverse and complicated. He mentions Greta's backing and encouragement of extremist movements like Extinction Rebellion, whose handiwork we've already seen in the disruption of everyday life, much to the chagrin of everyday people just trying to get to work.

Not being a total Greta supporter does not necessarily translate into a hater of "anyone or anything that is unusual, unconventional, non traditional, foreign, etc." I recently read through a NG issue celebrating women, in which one of the highlighted issues is the struggle being faced in countries like India regarding the very safety of women. Many of these women, some very young in age, have taken matters into their own hands through demonstrations, civic actions, movements.... and have thrust themselves into the limelight. I totally applaud and support that. But I cannot hold a 16-year old Swedish girl from a fairly comfortable background in one of the world's least offensive countries (on environmental issues) in the same regard as I do these women who are practically and truly "fighting for their future." One smacks of sensationalism, stoked by behind the scene adults. The other is a true, desperate and personally-lived struggle. Not sure if I'm making myself understood here.

In the end, Greta's campaign may be helpful in some ways, and may be harmful in others. I still cringe at the thought of being in the shoes of a highly-educated climate professional... traveling to a summit to discuss climate change... and being subjected to a shrieking scolding by a 16-year old. But I will say this: At the very least it has put the environment at the forefront of conversations. Like her methods (or those behind the scenes) or not..... the unarguable fact is that by being controversial she has brought the conversation to the forefront.

Another complexity of climate change/pollution. While the U.S. may the worst offender in CO2 emissions, it would be globally foolish to ignore the countries rapidly catching up, like China. Not to mention the fact that CO2 emissions are but a portion of the whole climate change/pollution picture. Water pollution is a far more urgent matter, IMO, and an animated graph on that would probably look a bit different. Like any complex issue, it's simply not a matter of "either or". It will take a multi-pronged approach, and by that I mean that while countries like the U.S. are to be expected to do their part, the huge offenders on the other side of the globe cannot just be given a pass because..... well, because "we don't have any control over what they do." We share the same planet, and it's everyone's business.

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In many ways we are not just on opposite sides of the street but in entirely different universes. I don't consider Extinction Rebellion to be an extremist movement at all. The fact that absolute lying scumbags like Johnson and Trump feel threatened by Thunberg and ER is a ringing validation of everything they are doing. There are plenty of highly educated climate professionals backing every thing that Thunberg has said. She is not shreiking at them or scolding them, she is urging people to listen to them, whilst so many are acting as apologists for the inaction of the likes of Macron, Trump (two sides of the same coin) etc.

She cannot help her background and I think for many their issue really is with her because she is female, and because they cannot accept that young people are capable of achieving amazing things. Speaking from personal experience, working with young people ,many of whom have very difficult and complex , health and social issues, it never ceases to amaze me what they can achieve.

What i find sensationalist and frankly hilarious, is the idea of people like the United States leveling sanctions against other countries when their own environmental policies are so backwards and ignorant.

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Different universes indeed. You're obviously entitled to your opinions as I am to mine. I do consider ER an extremist movement, because to me the very talk of extinction is sensationalist. We need more down-to-Earth, sensible conversations and action.... more than we need the running around like headless chickens seeking confrontation with anyone who doesn't share our views.

Trump is Trump, and I have a problem with 99.9999% of the things he says and thinks. It still doesn't change my views on 16-year old Swedish girls scolding professionals two or three times her age, and with a much more realistic view of the world and how it works. The female part of Greta I'll leave to those who actually do have a problem with that. I made clear in my previous post that I heartily applaud movements like those by young girls in India, fighting for the right not to be murdered, beaten and raped in record numbers.

The U.S. has a long way to go when it comes to renewable energy and the environment in general. It can certainly take the example of other countries, where technologies are being put to use in a vast number of ways..... all environmental-friendly. I have no issues with that. However, the white elephant in the room still remains those vast, powerful countries racing to catch up to the rest of the highly developed countries..... while putting the environment at the low end of the totem pole. Why it's a sin to address that is beyond me.

And @Dark Lord Al ....... I'm way ahead of you buddy.


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Sweet deal Rey .

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I probably shot my first Rabbit before your tiny feet walked on this planet mate, but just go ahead and assume you are a unique little broflake from one of Petersons acceptable Disney fillums ;D

And it is not an insult to remark on the fact that you do spread bullshit on an industrial scale here on the forum, much like Trump and your country does with intensive farming which is not great for anyone. It is just a fact. Look at the Trump thread it is about 87.9% Fake news

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There's just no fucking use even attempting to discuss ANYTHING with you. I don't care what your issues are, but you're a a complete and utter asshole to the overwhelming majority of posters here. Blame it on everyone just misunderstanding you and reading anger into posts that totally aren't filled with it, I don't give a fuck....but I AM 100% done with your constant insult slinging.


The average American farmer today feeds 155 people, in 1960 a farmer only fed 26 people. Care to revisit that "which is not great for anyone" quote?


"Look at the Trump thread" .....where are we now? Are we in that thread? Want me to bring up other threads that you've gone bonkers in? You are here for the sole purpose of white knighting for some dumb ass dutch teenager who lives a life of privilege none of us here would ever know the first thing about. She's talking about political action which....and I can't stress this ENOUGH......would lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. ......yeah No beef, that's going to be a problem. No big farms, while I personally am not a fan of them, they feed MILLIONS of people and so putting the kibosh on those would see many a person starve....do you want that? Well either you want THAT or you like Greta believe in unicorns and maybe one day you'll live in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane.


"I shot my first rabbit".....oh you feed your family with the Skittles of the forest do ya?

No but darklord Al feeds his family on hen of the woods 🤭

6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
Professor Tol is not an anomaly. Dr. Richard Lindzen of MIT, Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner, and countless other former IPCC in-crowd climate experts were subjected to smear campaigns from their colleagues and the news media for the crime of throwing cold water on the outlandish predictions of the Climate Change movement.
This pattern is all too familiar to anyone who has studied what happens to individuals who leave the Church of Scientology, and clearly meets the sixth warning sign for unsafe groups.

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I probably shot my first Rabbit before your tiny feet walked on this planet mate, but just go ahead and assume you are a unique little broflake from one of Petersons acceptable Disney fillums ;D

And it is not an insult to remark on the fact that you do spread bullshit on an industrial scale here on the forum, much like Trump and your country does with intensive farming which is not great for anyone. It is just a fact. Look at the Trump thread it is about 87.9% Fake news

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There's just no fucking use even attempting to discuss ANYTHING with you. I don't care what your issues are, but you're a a complete and utter asshole to the overwhelming majority of posters here. Blame it on everyone just misunderstanding you and reading anger into posts that totally aren't filled with it, I don't give a fuck....but I AM 100% done with your constant insult slinging.


The average American farmer today feeds 155 people, in 1960 a farmer only fed 26 people. Care to revisit that "which is not great for anyone" quote?


"Look at the Trump thread" .....where are we now? Are we in that thread? Want me to bring up other threads that you've gone bonkers in? You are here for the sole purpose of white knighting for some dumb ass dutch teenager who lives a life of privilege none of us here would ever know the first thing about. She's talking about political action which....and I can't stress this ENOUGH......would lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. ......yeah No beef, that's going to be a problem. No big farms, while I personally am not a fan of them, they feed MILLIONS of people and so putting the kibosh on those would see many a person starve....do you want that? Well either you want THAT or you like Greta believe in unicorns and maybe one day you'll live in a gumdrop house on lollipop lane.


"I shot my first rabbit".....oh you feed your family with the Skittles of the forest do ya?

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You are way too easily triggered. I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it. You want to defend factory farms and hunting your own game in the same breath, go ahead but don't expect people to take you seriously because much of what you post is absolute tosh and nonsense.

And well done on proving that you really do factory farm bullshit, and spread it around on an industrial scale . If you think YOU speak for the vast majority of posters on here you are deluded. You do not even speak for the vast majority of American posters on here. You are an anomaly mate, not some kind of barometer for common sense. Quite the opposite. Still no need to lose your rag over it. It is just a FACT.

5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
Climate alarmists who leave, step back from, or even lightly criticize the movement are immediately subjected to vicious smear campaigns. Dutch professor Richard Tol experienced this phenomenon firsthand when he removed his name from an IPCC climate report and criticized the reports excessively apocalyptic predictions.
The smear campaign was led by Bob Ward, director of policy at the London School of Economics’ Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change ‘This has all the characteristics of a smear campaign”, Tol said. “It’s all about taking away my credibility as an expert.”
The treatment of Professor Tol is not uncommon, and clearly demonstrates that the Climate Change movement exhibits the fifth warning sign for unsafe groups.

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You are way too easily triggered. I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it. You want to defend factory farms and hunting your own game in the same breath, go ahead but don't expect people to take you seriously because much of what you post is absolute tosh and nonsense.

And well done on proving that you really do factory farm bullshit, and spread it around on an industrial scale . If you think YOU speak for the vast majority of posters on here you are deluded. You do not even speak for the vast majority of American posters on here. You are an anomaly mate, not some kind of barometer for common sense. Quite the opposite. Still no need to lose your rag over it. It is just a FACT.

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All I did was laugh at the insane idea that CO2 is going to destroy the Earth and ....hold on, allow me to let you explain how things happened "I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it."

I defend factory farms not for myself....again I DON'T DEFEND THEM FOR MYSELF I defend them because while yeah they do cause for a number of problems they also feed a lot of people which I must have missed this part Beanz....how will you and Greta feed those people reliant on cheap available sources of meat and vegetable? I'm only slightly curious as it's not like millions upon millions of people depend on food from these farms or anything.


Where again do you shop, what do you buy again? I don't believe you ever answered me...I know how difficult direct questions are for you. I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself It is just a FACT.

But don't let that stop you, you never have, just keep on AGAIN. Do the same old bullshit, time after time and expect different results.

All I did was laugh and then ask a few questions and here we are. And all you can do is rock in a fetal position and tout the policies of some robotic little dutch child who has done what? Been used as a puppet by her famous parents to garner attention for THEM? Her specific idiosyncrasies and personality make up (I'd say developmental troubles, but I digress, I'm putting the kid gloves on and being overly kind in this) have been exploited by her parents and the rabid fanatics who espouse this green bullshit....her having suicidal thoughts is only a positive for them, they may as well have said "Obey us or we'll shoot innocent puppies".....but YOU defend them doing this by white knighting for Greta.


She's been exploited but you don't care, you identify with her, you swallow whole HER view on the environment :rolleyes: which is 'the world isn't going to end in 12 years but we're going to pass irreversible tipping points' ..... rrrrrright, according to the same scientists who have been predicting doom and gloom since before Greta was a glimmer in her father's eye. But hey eventually they'll be right and won't we all feel sorry then.


Never you worry though Beanz, don't bother answering the direct questions put to you again...I know how you're not one to let go of a thing like that when you think I haven't addressed something to your standard.

Go solar and wind and ban fossil fuels...that costs money and will also cost a great many lives and you say what to that? Nothing? "Tough" "hate it for you" "sucks to be you" what is your response to that FACT. I know where I live if there's no AC, well a heap of old people, little babies, and the infirmed will more than likely die....and your take is?

Ban beef and air travel and factory farms.....according to Google "The world consumed 129.5 billion pounds of beef in 2016." so that's what a few million folks either starving or malnourished. No air travel so what is that replaced with? No factory farms so that means food is more expensive and there's a lot less of it....yeah only good can come from that.


Your solutions? I mean BESIDES calling me names and being not even angry. I'll wait for them....tell me brilliant one, what is YOUR plan? What is Greta the Great's plan?

This is getting rather nasty all around. But I really liked that verb "white-knighting" 🤭

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Get fucked Brock you bulb headed shit stirring cunt. Go back and read the first four posts of YOUR thread, and then tell me with a straight face there was nothing 'nasty' about four grown men attacking and slagging off a 16 yr old girl. Feeble as fuck. Your daughters must be so proud of you all. :rolleyes:

This is what I posted...

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Well you see India and China are where the selective mutism kicks in.

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I stand by it and see 0 wrong with it.



Hope that helps :thumb:

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You are way too easily triggered. I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it. You want to defend factory farms and hunting your own game in the same breath, go ahead but don't expect people to take you seriously because much of what you post is absolute tosh and nonsense.

And well done on proving that you really do factory farm bullshit, and spread it around on an industrial scale . If you think YOU speak for the vast majority of posters on here you are deluded. You do not even speak for the vast majority of American posters on here. You are an anomaly mate, not some kind of barometer for common sense. Quite the opposite. Still no need to lose your rag over it. It is just a FACT.

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All I did was laugh at the insane idea that CO2 is going to destroy the Earth and ....hold on, allow me to let you explain how things happened "I express a different opinion to you and YOU make it personal. You seem to thrive on it."

I defend factory farms not for myself....again I DON'T DEFEND THEM FOR MYSELF I defend them because while yeah they do cause for a number of problems they also feed a lot of people which I must have missed this part Beanz....how will you and Greta feed those people reliant on cheap available sources of meat and vegetable? I'm only slightly curious as it's not like millions upon millions of people depend on food from these farms or anything.


Where again do you shop, what do you buy again? I don't believe you ever answered me...I know how difficult direct questions are for you. I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself It is just a FACT.

But don't let that stop you, you never have, just keep on AGAIN. Do the same old bullshit, time after time and expect different results.

All I did was laugh and then ask a few questions and here we are. And all you can do is rock in a fetal position and tout the policies of some robotic little dutch child who has done what? Been used as a puppet by her famous parents to garner attention for THEM? Her specific idiosyncrasies and personality make up (I'd say developmental troubles, but I digress, I'm putting the kid gloves on and being overly kind in this) have been exploited by her parents and the rabid fanatics who espouse this green bullshit....her having suicidal thoughts is only a positive for them, they may as well have said "Obey us or we'll shoot innocent puppies".....but YOU defend them doing this by white knighting for Greta.


She's been exploited but you don't care, you identify with her, you swallow whole HER view on the environment :rolleyes: which is 'the world isn't going to end in 12 years but we're going to pass irreversible tipping points' ..... rrrrrright, according to the same scientists who have been predicting doom and gloom since before Greta was a glimmer in her father's eye. But hey eventually they'll be right and won't we all feel sorry then.


Never you worry though Beanz, don't bother answering the direct questions put to you again...I know how you're not one to let go of a thing like that when you think I haven't addressed something to your standard.

Go solar and wind and ban fossil fuels...that costs money and will also cost a great many lives and you say what to that? Nothing? "Tough" "hate it for you" "sucks to be you" what is your response to that FACT. I know where I live if there's no AC, well a heap of old people, little babies, and the infirmed will more than likely die....and your take is?

Ban beef and air travel and factory farms.....according to Google "The world consumed 129.5 billion pounds of beef in 2016." so that's what a few million folks either starving or malnourished. No air travel so what is that replaced with? No factory farms so that means food is more expensive and there's a lot less of it....yeah only good can come from that.


Your solutions? I mean BESIDES calling me names and being not even angry. I'll wait for them....tell me brilliant one, what is YOUR plan? What is Greta the Great's plan?

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Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

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This is getting rather nasty all around. But I really liked that verb "white-knighting" ������

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Get fucked Brock you bulb headed shit stirring cunt. Go back and read the first four posts of YOUR thread, and then tell me with a straight face there was nothing 'nasty' about four grown men attacking and slagging off a 16 yr old girl. Feeble as fuck. Your daughters must be so proud of you all. :rolleyes:

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Actually the first four posts have three "grown men attacking and slagging off a 16 yr old girl." ;)

Still.... many others have weighed in on one form or another basically to state their opinion which is basically not on the side of Greta. Not sure whether that constitutes "attacking and slagging off" or not.

Some have done so quietly and without risk of engaging in a heated exchange.

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Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

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Yeah Greta's ego is one of those things that's bigger than me. If I was asked questions I'd answer them. What am I deflecting? I'm stating how things work on planet Earth because you seem to genuinely not understand that the agenda these Greenies are calling for the entire world* (bar India and China) adopting has some very serious real consequences and you NOT addressing that seems short sighted and silly.



Ask nicely?




OK Beanz...dear poster, many blessings upon you, and thank you for taking your precious time to answer the questions I humbly ask:

1. how will you and others attempt to feed the population of Earth without factory farms and domestic cattle?

2. what will replace fossil fuels since wind and solar are simply not efficient enough to fully replace them?

3. is it morally right to utilize a child that is differently abled/has a developmental disorder in order to prove a point/champion a cause which she may have been brainwashed into believing?


....thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration, I await your response most humble gentle kind poster :bow:

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Get over YOURSELF. Some things are bigger than you. Nobody is asking you questions. You do not have some divine right to deflect by demanding answers to your questions when you behave like a five year old. Calm down and ask nicely and maybe just for once don't assume that you are required to fly off the handle and defend anything just because someone doesn't agree with the hyper capitalism you seem to think everyone should bow down and worship.

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Yeah Greta's ego is one of those things that's bigger than me. If I was asked questions I'd answer them. What am I deflecting? I'm stating how things work on planet Earth because you seem to genuinely not understand that the agenda these Greenies are calling for the entire world* (bar India and China) adopting has some very serious real consequences and you NOT addressing that seems short sighted and silly.



Ask nicely?




OK Beanz...dear poster, many blessings upon you, and thank you for taking your precious time to answer the questions I humbly ask:

1. how will you and others attempt to feed the population of Earth without factory farms and domestic cattle?

2. what will replace fossil fuels since wind and solar are simply not efficient enough to fully replace them?

3. is it morally right to utilize a child that is differently abled/has a developmental disorder in order to prove a point/champion a cause which she may have been brainwashed into believing?


....thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration, I await your response most humble gentle kind poster :bow:

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Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? ;D In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

Beanz's nastiness is off the charts. Cursing, demeaning, name calling, insulting, what a gentleman. You feel sorry for our daughters? I feel sorry for your daughter.

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How do you even know I have a daughter Brock you fucking eggplant headed fucktard? I am not the one taking pot shots at a 16yr old for having the temerity to leave her room and exercise her right to free speech and protest.

What a sad excuse for a man

That made no sense. But do continue. It's getting rich.

7. . There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
The abuses of the Climate Change movement are loud and proud. They vociferously attack their perceived enemies for public consumption, and are cheered on by fellow travelers in the journalism class. Most recently they brainwashed a bunch of kids and marched them into an octogenarian Democrat Senator’s office to beg not to be murdered by a ‘No’ vote on impossible legislation. Have you seen those kids in Diane Feinstein’s office? You should, it’s creepy, here they are:
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/st...76130089459712
These tantrums and protests aren’t only meant to rally supporters of the Climate Change movement. They are a form of intimidation, a tactic used to silence those who question the gospel. There is ample evidence that the Climate Change movement meets the seventh warning sign of an unsafe group.

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I wouldn't worry about India, you were choking and gagging on Als cock as soon as he called a 16yr old a 'media cunt' so you are fooling nobody with your phoney outrage at me not being a gentleman.

What a fucking rotter.

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Not a very cool story Bro.

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Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? ;D In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

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What would you like me to call these extremists? I would guess that you'd find me very weird as I'm not very much like you. Sorry that you see it like that when my rights and productivity are under attack from an actual trustifarian like Greta.

Oh I can feed my family quite ok factory farms aside, but what of the less fortunate? Do you not think that a dramatic price increase for food would impact them at all? Or do you just not care about them? Surely you can transition from factory farms to something else but that would take a lot more than 12 years so I can tell you that much.


You answered your own question is not an answer to my question from you. But if that's how you want to leave it I am more than pleased to leave it that way because it shows you've got no answer you've got no solution and that's the point all you have is this is wrong with Society that's wrong with Society this is wrong with how things are that's wrong with how things are and you never ever ever have answers.

Please blindly naively childishly follow this to your own end you will have no one to blame but yourself. I can look after myself and I can look after my family and I'm not calling for the World to Change to suit my little pet projects that spring from not having any real work or challenge in life.

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8. Followers feel they can never be “good enough”.
The atonement process for Climate warriors always demands more. It started with using a recycling bin and grocery bags. Now, in 2019, being a good follower means imposing veganism on the masses and issuing fatwahs against innocuous objects such as plastic straws and grocery bags. Despite all the efforts of the faithful, Climate minions maintain a constant state of dread and despair, knowing they can never truly do enough to stop the coming doom.
Clearly, the eighth warning sign for unsafe groups applies to the Climate Change movement.

9. The group/leader is always right.
When have the climate leaders been called wrong for their failed predictions? Regardless of the weather, they are always intrinsically correct.
Flood? Climate Change. Drought? Climate Change.
No Snow? Climate Change. Too much snow? Climate Change.
Tornado? Climate Change. Hurricane? Climate Change. Lack of hurricanes? Climate Change.
See how this works?
One of the best aspects of the movement is “weather is climate until it isn’t”. The acolytes of Climate Change will point out the window in a heat wave and say, “See? We’re right!”
If a skeptic points out the window during a blizzard, the same acolytes will simply cry “Weather isn’t climate!” It’s a game they can never lose, one in which they are never wrong and always right.
Thus, the ninth warning sign for unsafe groups clearly applies.

. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
The path to discovery for the Climate Change movement is an intentionally vague discipline referred to as “climate science”.
Did you carry out a study on gender and glaciers? Climate Science.
Did you think up the worst possible scenarios that have no actual chance of happening (actual portion of latest National Climate Assessment)? Climate Science.
https://twitter.com/Oil_Guns_Merica/...97180428279809
Any “science” that confirms the tenets of the Climate Change movement is deemed “climate science”, while actual scientific research that disputes their conclusions is derided as “denialism”.
The tenth warning sign for unsafe groups is clearly met.

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The Verdict: It’s a cult
According to the established, scientific guidelines developed by cult experts, the Climate Change movement fits the bill for a potentially unsafe group.
When I looked up these established warning signs, I honestly expected Climate Changeists to meet two or three of them, NOT TEN! The disturbingly religious nature of this supposedly “scientific” movement should alarm any thinking human being, especially since the movement now openly seeks to nationalize the entire economy.
It’s time for conservatives to realize what they are dealing with, and act accordingly. Rather than debating Climate Change activists, it may be time to start staging interventions.
If someone you know is a member of the Climate Change Movement, and you are interested in intervention strategies, please visit https://culteducation.com/prep_faq.html.

Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Nobody takes any note of you now

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Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Nobody takes any note of you now

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Do you speak for the whole forum? I'm asking for a friend

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Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Nobody takes any note of you now

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He's the nastiest person ever, my friend said. And can't see how countless people here despise his bullying nastiness and despicable personal insults.

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Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Nobody takes any note of you now

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Darn nobody told me that. Did anyone else know we don’t take note of dia

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Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Nobody takes any note of you now

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Which friend is that? The mentally challenged one or the schizophrenic one who has one personality in India, one in France, one in America and the other up the arse of anyone who will indulge him in his sicko games?

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Are you seriously calling people ' These Greenies ' and not expecting me to find you to be the weird freaky oddball in all this? ;D In your little 'Us and Them' world I am most definitely not part of your 'US' and very happy to be one of 'Them'.


1. If you think the only way to feed people is factory farms then you know jackshit about farming.

2. you answered your own question

3. Again you answered your own question. You are beyond brainwashed and deranged

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What would you like me to call these extremists? I would guess that you'd find me very weird as I'm not very much like you. Sorry that you see it like that when my rights and productivity are under attack from an actual trustifarian like Greta.

Oh I can feed my family quite ok factory farms aside, but what of the less fortunate? Do you not think that a dramatic price increase for food would impact them at all? Or do you just not care about them? Surely you can transition from factory farms to something else but that would take a lot more than 12 years so I can tell you that much.


You answered your own question is not an answer to my question from you. But if that's how you want to leave it I am more than pleased to leave it that way because it shows you've got no answer you've got no solution and that's the point all you have is this is wrong with Society that's wrong with Society this is wrong with how things are that's wrong with how things are and you never ever ever have answers.

Please blindly naively childishly follow this to your own end you will have no one to blame but yourself. I can look after myself and I can look after my family and I'm not calling for the World to Change to suit my little pet projects that spring from not having any real work or challenge in life.

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I will indulge you. You will still be mightily offended that there are millions of people in the world who are nothing like you but hey ho, at least you will maybe drop the attitude and alpha male bullshit for once and realise that not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy that threatens YOU.


What would you like me to call these extremists?

You can anyone anything you like. You don't then get the right to no reply though, it is as simple as that. They are just people. People from all professions, backgrounds and walks of life but all sharing in common the fact that they are concerned that massive corporations and governments are destroying the only planet we all have. You have put your shoulder behind extremists. That is the over riding narrative that 'Conservatives' like yourself have espoused for decades now. Protest and challenge of the status quo is mocked by you. You have NEVER come up with alternatives only mocked anything that challenged the same old, same old. The American led version of hyper capitalism is fucked and you as an extremist continue to live in denial, defending a Globalist figure head of that celebrity vacuous debased billionaire culture, in your Reality TV show President, who is personally responsible for demanding that the science be banned and buried so that you can all continue to indulge your extremist dream. Wake up.


I would guess that you'd find me very weird as I'm not very much like you.

Not at all. Few people I meet or work with are very much like me. I don't think that makes them weird. I am not the one who has spent the last 14yrs on a forum grimacing and screaming about how weird and frightening I find so many people. The weird lefties and feminazis and trans rights and actors and academics etc that keep you awake at night could fill a Yellow Pages. So no, not weird just incredibly narrow minded and belligerent to the point of being paranoid simply because others do not agree with your rather childlike world view.


Sorry that you see it like that when my rights and productivity are under attack from an actual trustifarian like Greta.

Now that is a bit of a weird attitude. She is a 16 year old. If you think your rights and productivity as a fucking insurance salesman ffs are 'under attack' ;D from somebody urging others to hold politicians and people in power to account you need to work you way up the ladder a bit and try to aim for being a snowflake. It will no doubt improve your fragile resilience.

Trustafarian ? You sound like the twats who when all the schoolkids came out on the international climate strike were screaming 'Get a job' at 12 yr olds :-\ ;D. Like you i bet most of them subscribed to Carl Benjamin and PJW. Amazing how bitter somebody who is such a painfully embarrassing wannabe sophisticate hipster like you should have such an issue with her parents being successful. An opera singer and an actor are now being described as though they are both sponging wasters and the elite in the same breath. The jealousy and reverse snobbery that abounds about careers like theirs is frankly very weird and illuminating of those who castigate them.

Oh I can feed my family quite ok factory farms aside, but what of the less fortunate?


The less fortunate? I thought you were both a wild hunstman of the woods and a friend of astronauts ? There is no argument for factory farming on the industrial scale that is common in America. In Europe and especially in the UK it would be illegal to use those kinds of methods, so don't bullshit us all with the idea that is progress. Fuck your virtue signalling on behalf of the 'less fortunate' ha! People are kept poor as a result of the politics you have been advocating for years, so get the fuck out of here with the false concern. Everyone eats too much meat. It is not expensive to eat more veg and I am not a vegan or vegetarian either. I am though surrounded by farms. Have family and friends working on those farms and have never had any of those farmers suggest that they could not feed people despite not adopting the factory farming model you lie about being inevitable.


Do you not think that a dramatic price increase for food would impact them at all? Or do you just not care about them? Surely you can transition from factory farms to something else but that would take a lot more than 12 years so I can tell you that much.


Fuck me you have a lot of time to waste. I will come back and answer the rest after this one.


It is hilarious. Like the nose on your face you cannot even see it can you?

You are a massive fucking shouty lecturing, hectoring proponent of Brexit. Of a no deal hard Brexit. Of a imposition of an immediate crash of the British Economy on which food prices will not only rocket but availability to fresh produce will be hammered to satisfy your own phobia of Europe. And you are not even British. ;D

You don't give a shit about people dying mate you boast about it. Now you are trying to suggest that i don't care? Make your mind up am I a SJW or am i a hyper capitalist heartless cunt like you? ;D

My Mrs with one hand in a wheelchair make Lasagne for the homeless or her Dad when he is in Hospital, so I would be a pretty shitty hypocrite if I did not help and put my money where my mouth is. If i do a charity contract I will always give at least a 25% discount on the quote if not do it as a freebie. So yeah I kind of do care and i would assume most people do.

Even you ;D

You always assume the worst of people. Too much weed mate.

I will address the next questions you raise in the nest post when i get five minutes but who is this bit addressed to?

I can look after myself and I can look after my family and I'm not calling for the World to Change to suit my little pet projects that spring from not having any real work or challenge in life.


Me? or a 16yr old girl on a gap year?
I mean I have no wish to disavow you of your misplaced notions but if you are genuinely interested in real work, challenges and little pet projects (lol) i can maybe help you understand.

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Greta god bless is mentally challenged a 16 kid did anybody take note of myself when I was 16 no.
In truth the lovely people and snowflakes among us she is god.
I just say O God one more nut job carbon neutral come on kids no more takeaways no more electronics.
Reality the youth are a wasteful intitled bunch I want I must have remember Greta was travelling on a state of the art carbon fibre yacht now that's a carbon footprint.

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Which friend is that? The mentally challenged one or the schizophrenic one who has one personality in India, one in France, one in America and the other up the arse of anyone who will indulge him in his sicko games?

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It's the mentally challenged one I believe he lives in Plymouth and he demanded that I understand that I don't speak for the entire forum...so I'm wondering if the same rules apply or is my special friend just special?

Be as snarky as you like I really don't care it's not like there's not a multibillion-dollar industry behind little Greta so be dismissive all you like. Act like politicians aren't making use of lil Greta all you want but that either means you're naive or you're a liar.

"Everyone eats too much meat"....according to who?