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Denilson-The-Comeback
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Fatboxingfan
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Denilson-The-Comeback
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Fatboxingfan
Below are the Top 10 emitters of carbon dioxide from 2018, along with the global share and the change each country has experienced since the 2005 Kyoto Protocol.
China (up 55%}
India {up 106%}
Russia
USA (down 12% since Kyoto protocol)
Japan
South Korea (up 38% @
Gandalf )
Germany
Iran
Canada
Saudi Arabia
Of the Top 3 emitters, China and India have both experienced massive increases since 2005. The U.S. has experienced double-digit declines, as have Germany and Japan.
Large changes in coal consumption are the primary driver behind most of the countries mentioned above. China and India have greatly expanded their usage of coal, while the U.S. and Germany have seen sharp declines in coal consumption.
A key driver in the U.S. and Germany was legislation aimed at limiting carbon dioxide emissions. This helped spur rapid growth in renewable energy usage in both countries, which helped lower demand for coal.
But in the U.S., an even larger driver in reducing coal consumption was the shale gas boom, which created enormous supplies of cheap natural gas. Over the past decade, consumption of renewable power in the U.S. rose by 349 terawatt-hours (TWh). Over that same span, power from natural gas increased by 696 TWh — nearly double the renewable energy contribution.
Related: OPEC+ Agrees To Deeper Output Cuts
The U.S., in fact has reduced carbon dioxide emissions by more than any other country @
Beanz since the Kyoto Protocol, while China has increased emissions by more than any other country.
It should be noted that the U.S. is first among countries when it comes to responsibility for historical carbon dioxide emitted into the atmosphere. However, given China’s current emissions and the trends, they will pass the U.S. in the overall CO2 contribution to the atmosphere in a little more than a decade.
It also remains true that China’s per capita carbon dioxide emissions are much lower than those in the U.S. @
walrus In 2018, annual emissions in the U.S. stood at 16 metric tons per person, while those in China were 8 metric tons per person. However, since 1980 per capita emissions in the U.S. have fallen by 20%, while they have more than quintupled in China.
All majority white and asian nations.
Not one majority black nation on that list.
Not one.
no offense but I can't think of many black Nations that had heavy industry to cause any pollution
So I'm right then ? There is not a majority blk country fking up the enviroment.
Even though that's a fact. Its black ppl who suffer the most over the shit whites put out there.
Blk people are more likely than whites to live in the congested communities that experience the most smog and toxic concentration thanks to fossil fuel use.
Heat waves connected to climate change kill blk people more than whites
The agricultural is fked up, disruptions due to warming cost African nations billions.
The air is fked up. Thanks to what ppl?
The water n oceans are fked up. Thanks to what ppl?
The ice cap is fked up. Thanks to what ppl?
The animals r fked up n dying out. Thanks to what ppl ?
Yet these are the same ppl running around telling everyone how smart they are. How high their iq is.
This is crucial bcoz u need air n water to survive.
Unless your gonna talk about white supremacy and it's mentality your never gonna get to the root of how fked up the enviroment is.
Without the wrong doing of slavery you wouldn't have this platform to post on here, slavery was the worst thing ever , but you were not a slave and I wasn't a slave trader so get over it .
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El Kabong
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walrus
Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.
Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out :dontknow: ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.
Well yes of course panels on the roof and you are still on the grid. Battery storage is a different issue. I’d love one of those Tesla solar batteries at my house but they are very costly and although when we do lose power we have lost it for 4-7 days but it’s not a regular occurrence to justify the expense but I do get concerned about some attack on the grid.
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Re: 10 Biggest Polluters on Earth
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Originally Posted by
Denilson-The-Comeback
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Originally Posted by
Fatboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
Denilson-The-Comeback
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Originally Posted by
Fatboxingfan
Below are the Top 10 emitters of carbon dioxide from 2018, along with the global share and the change each country has experienced since the 2005 Kyoto Protocol.
China (up 55%}
India {up 106%}
Russia
USA (down 12% since Kyoto protocol)
Japan
South Korea (up 38% @
Gandalf )
Germany
Iran
Canada
Saudi Arabia
Of the Top 3 emitters, China and India have both experienced massive increases since 2005. The U.S. has experienced double-digit declines, as have Germany and Japan.
Large changes in coal consumption are the primary driver behind most of the countries mentioned above. China and India have greatly expanded their usage of coal, while the U.S. and Germany have seen sharp declines in coal consumption.
A key driver in the U.S. and Germany was legislation aimed at limiting carbon dioxide emissions. This helped spur rapid growth in renewable energy usage in both countries, which helped lower demand for coal.
But in the U.S., an even larger driver in reducing coal consumption was the shale gas boom, which created enormous supplies of cheap natural gas. Over the past decade, consumption of renewable power in the U.S. rose by 349 terawatt-hours (TWh). Over that same span, power from natural gas increased by 696 TWh — nearly double the renewable energy contribution.
Related: OPEC+ Agrees To Deeper Output Cuts
The U.S., in fact has reduced carbon dioxide emissions by more than any other country @
Beanz since the Kyoto Protocol, while China has increased emissions by more than any other country.
It should be noted that the U.S. is first among countries when it comes to responsibility for historical carbon dioxide emitted into the atmosphere. However, given China’s current emissions and the trends, they will pass the U.S. in the overall CO2 contribution to the atmosphere in a little more than a decade.
It also remains true that China’s per capita carbon dioxide emissions are much lower than those in the U.S. @
walrus In 2018, annual emissions in the U.S. stood at 16 metric tons per person, while those in China were 8 metric tons per person. However, since 1980 per capita emissions in the U.S. have fallen by 20%, while they have more than quintupled in China.
All majority white and asian nations.
Not one majority black nation on that list.
Not one.
no offense but I can't think of many black Nations that had heavy industry to cause any pollution
So I'm right then ? There is not a majority blk country fking up the enviroment.
Even though that's a fact. Its black ppl who suffer the most over the shit whites put out there.
Blk people are more likely than whites to live in the congested communities that experience the most smog and toxic concentration thanks to fossil fuel use.
Heat waves connected to climate change kill blk people more than whites
The agricultural is fked up, disruptions due to warming cost African nations billions.
The air is fked up. Thanks to what ppl?
The water n oceans are fked up. Thanks to what ppl?
The ice cap is fked up. Thanks to what ppl?
The animals r fked up n dying out. Thanks to what ppl ?
Yet these are the same ppl running around telling everyone how smart they are. How high their iq is.
This is crucial bcoz u need air n water to survive.
Unless your gonna talk about white supremacy and it's mentality your never gonna get to the root of how fked up the enviroment is.
Sure big D just poach every animal in Africa to sell to the Chinese but put up a pic of a white dude who paid to shoot one lion. If it weren’t for white people you wouldn’t have all the humanitarian aid to keep the continent together. Do you consider Asians white? They are a different race but managed to thrive. Why not blacks? It’s all the white mans fault? Why don’t African nations get together and overthrow all the whites in Africa. Oh yeah you are in England. I keep forgetting.
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Big D is in England? Did he vote Tory?
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Fatboxingfan
Big D is in England? Did he vote Tory?
Liverpool = Labour.
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Gandalf
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Fatboxingfan
Big D is in England? Did he vote Tory?
Liverpool = Labour.
Liverpool New York
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Is it still cool to visit Liverpool? I want to see the cavern, aunt Mimi’s house and other Beatle landmarks.
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walrus
Is it still cool to visit Liverpool? I want to see the cavern, aunt Mimi’s house and other Beatle landmarks.
Excellent place to visit, also go to the football club.
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walrus
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El Kabong
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walrus
Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.
Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out :dontknow: ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.
Well yes of course panels on the roof and you are still on the grid. Battery storage is a different issue. I’d love one of those Tesla solar batteries at my house but they are very costly and although when we do lose power we have lost it for 4-7 days but it’s not a regular occurrence to justify the expense but I do get concerned about some attack on the grid.
My sister has the panels and they have a process where she sells the electricity back to the grid that she does not use and it is deducted from her bill.
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Master
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walrus
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El Kabong
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walrus
Why are you saying solar for houses doesn’t work? I’m seeing more and more of them popping up and my neighbors got one. I believe they said it’s working out ok. Granted today the panels are covered in ice. I’m just curious of your statement as I’m considering solar on one of my houses. I am trying to weigh the pros and cons. If I can get them installed for free and give the company the right to sell excess power to the grid I’m thinking why not.
Be sure to get a battery to store power from those panels otherwise when the power is out, the power is out :dontknow: ...as many folks in California found out much to their surprise.
Well yes of course panels on the roof and you are still on the grid. Battery storage is a different issue. I’d love one of those Tesla solar batteries at my house but they are very costly and although when we do lose power we have lost it for 4-7 days but it’s not a regular occurrence to justify the expense but I do get concerned about some attack on the grid.
My sister has the panels and they have a process where she sells the electricity back to the grid that she does not use and it is deducted from her bill.
Ya I’m thinking of something along that route. My rental place is all electric heat which makes people nervous as it can be expensive so I’m thinking of adding solar.
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TitoFan
I'll say it again. We should be focusing on something that no one can debate. That's pollution. After all... if man-made climate change is in fact real..... what causes it? Pollution, right?
Attack the source of the problem, and there will be little need to haggle over the consequential effects (or not).
Seems so simple to me... but then humanity has taken a liking to finding something to constantly bicker about. :rolleyes:
Since pollution is the main topic of this thread, I figured this would be a good place for this.
https://phys.org/news/2019-02-plasti...n-animals.html
"Plastic found in deepest ocean animals"
Article's almost a year old, but it's still alarming.
Pollution remains probably the most vile of activities by mankind.
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Besides child porn yes, pollution is at the top of the list. I remember George Carlin one-time said that God only created human beings so that we could invent plastic. And that once plastic was invented God would wipe out human beings. It makes me sick to think of plastic in deep sea life you know what else is sickening Tito fan? There are literally hundreds of thousands now of Earth orbiting satellites some the size of a shoe box and others the size of a truck. There is no way for anyone to keep track of all this space metal probably 33% of which they are now saying is defunct or just dead and inoperable. It is already causing problems. It doesn't matter if it's under water or in the ground or in the air or now in outer space mankind is polluting and destroying everything like a bunch of bacteria in a petri dish shiting and pissing and shiting and pissing mountains of s*** and mountains of piss until it chokes itself out in a cesspool type of suicide
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Remember that scene in The Matrix where an agent is talking to a handcuffed Morpheus? I find myself bringing that up every now and then. It's an old movie... and many may not have liked that part.... but it always stuck with me. It's where agent (Johnson?) is comparing the human race to a virus.
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"For US industrial lobbies, this deal is the long-awaited chance to get rid of the rules banning things like chlorinated chicken and hormone-grown beef from our shelves, while leaving our climate and energy policies at the mercy of trade disputes.”
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Beanz
Money & power....that is all those "environmental" groups are about.
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El Kabong
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Beanz
Money & power....that is all those "environmental" groups are about.
Ha! Unlike the fossil fuel companies and your masters Murdoch and Trump. You sound like this absolute melt. In fact you claimed the same rubbish and had to retract the claims you made and apologise for it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...P=share_btn_fb
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Beanz
What do the fossil fuel companies do to impact my individual life choices?
Windmills are bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Ln6DC1PdU
If they weren't bullshit why would the Kennedy's oppose them being placed near their compound?
Kennedy tries to halt windmills
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-124537-9804r/
A fight to block alternative fuel development that could replace oil-burning power plants for communities along the Nantucket Sound has created an unusual alliance on Capitol Hill, with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy backing the fight against the green proposal.
Mr. Kennedy, a staunch environmentalist, opposes the Cape Wind project, which will place windmills in the sound’s shallows to create electricity for customers in Cape Cod, Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket.
Critics say the Massachusetts Democrat doesn’t want the Cape Wind project in his own back yard along with 130 windmills that might clutter the water view of the Kennedy clan’s vacation home. Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts’ junior senator and another key green ally, called attempts to derail the project an “insult.”
Now Standard Oil's John D. Rockefeller, yeah he was the prototype of these Climate Change Alarmists we see today and yes he wanted total and complete control of the working man....I didn't much care for him either, but he's dead and big oil is now a lot more diverse and doesn't have the control over the populace as it did before. Rockefeller was one of the people who got Prohibition enacted, delayed/ruined Alcohol being used as a fuel (though it's still used in race cars to this day). No denying his evil just as there's no denying the evil of this "green" movement...it'll be bloodier than Mao's Great Leap, but hey you know best don't you.
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Engineers have in the past done a horseshit job of designing mechanisms to harness the wind and safely and efficiently convert it into electrical power. Yes... windmill failures are spectacularly visible for all to see, and provide perfect cannon fodder for those who oppose renewable energy sources. Videos of failing windmills are readily available, and I've seen others even more spectacular. It's an ongoing process. Maybe the perfect wind-harnessing mechanism is still in the future and just hasn't been envisioned yet. Maybe it's under development.
Still, the failure of one windmill has little long-term or widespread impact..... unlike these.
http://www.oceanfutures.org/news/blo...erican-history
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TitoFan
Engineers have in the past done a horseshit job of designing mechanisms to harness the wind and safely and efficiently convert it into electrical power. Yes... windmill failures are spectacularly visible for all to see, and provide perfect cannon fodder for those who oppose renewable energy sources. Videos of failing windmills are readily available, and I've seen others even more spectacular. It's an ongoing process. Maybe the perfect wind-harnessing mechanism is still in the future and just hasn't been envisioned yet. Maybe it's under development.
Still, the failure of one windmill has little long-term or widespread impact..... unlike these.
http://www.oceanfutures.org/news/blo...erican-history
If the technology isn't ready then why force it on people? Make it better and people will buy it. It's not efficient....NUCLEAR is hands down the most efficient why the GREEN opposition to it then? Take that and chew it over...what do the Greenies get from saying "no" to nuclear? What's the hangup they have on it?
Where did the oil come from? The Earth...mother nature is a big complex thing and this sort of thing is bound to have happened naturally before (meaning certainly oil has been released into nature in mass amounts before, it has to have) and what happened? Did the world end? Did the Oceans dry up? Did the fish vanish? NO if there's a natural mess, Mother Nature typically handles it and oftentimes comes out the better for it....forest fires (to an extent) are quite beneficial to nature, hurricanes are beneficial albeit a pain in property owners' asses, flooding can be beneficial...oil comes from the Earth and Mother Nature handles her own shit....might look bad for creatures in the direct vicinity but on the whole, not even a drop in the bucket. I'm not saying it's a brilliant thing, I'm just saying it's going to be handled regardless of what we as humans do.
https://response.restoration.noaa.go...crobes-do.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiVVzxoPTtg
Life finds a way
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Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
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Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.
Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.
Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.
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Listen mankind is not going to save itself. No matter what technologies or safety measures are put in mankind is going to destroy itself just like every other creature on earth destroyed itself. We think we are too big for our britches but all we are are an evolved primate with a slightly bigger forebrain bundle who launched a few satellites and landed a couple of times on the moon
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El Kabong
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TitoFan
Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.
Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.
Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.
Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.
At least we seem to agree on nuclear.
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TitoFan
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.
Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.
Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.
Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.
At least we seem to agree on nuclear.
Wait,..... Did he just say "MAYBE" Trump will get reelected?
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Fatboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.
Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.
Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.
Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.
At least we seem to agree on nuclear.
Wait,..... Did he just say "MAYBE" Trump will get reelected?
Yes I did, Broc..... er..... Fats. Only sure things in life are death and taxes.
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fatboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.
Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.
Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.
Maybe Trump will get re-elected and opt out of wind altogether. You know... some kind of decree or something. Meanwhile, other countries will continue to R&D the shit out of renewables and the U.S. can be left in the dust.
Coal dust, to be specific.
At least we seem to agree on nuclear.
Wait,..... Did he just say "MAYBE" Trump will get reelected?
Yes I did, Broc..... er..... Fats. Only sure things in life are death and taxes.
True Tito. And don't take what I said about radiation spawning hurricanes the wrong way on the climate thread. But I did just read there is a correlation in a science journal of Hungary.
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“I never understood wind,” Trump said, according to Mediaite. “I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?”
“So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air,” the president added.
Normally the National Medal of Science is awarded by the President. Rumor has it based on this speech alone, serious consideration is being given to Trump being the recipient instead. :D
Seriously...... I think Trump keeps talking while his brain is stripping its gears. It's the only explanation for the pure garbage that spews out of his mouth.
He does get a good laugh, though. :D
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for the past three and a half years I have listened to practically every speech and rally that President Trump has given and I have never heard him say anything like this. This must be one isolated and out of context excerpt just tried to make him look bad. Just like the one of Obama saying hold up hold up hold up hold up. it was just an excerpt which tried to make him look like he was speaking some ghetto nonsense when in fact he was a very good speaker albeit with a teleprompter. so yeah I'm sure you can find some excerpts like that of trump or anybody else for that matter.
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Re: 10 Biggest Polluters on Earth
I've got your "out of context excerpt" right here, Fats. (TitoFan grabs crotch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9P3C1OXqE
Anything ELSE you care to be proven wrong about? :D :cool:
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Re: 10 Biggest Polluters on Earth
You get a DQ, crotch grab violates House rules (Pelosi, October 2017)
#fact
Anyway thanks for the video. Doesn't change anything for me tho.
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Watched it again. What's the problem? Seriously
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You said it was an "out of context excerpt". I showed you it wasn't. Is video evidence not enough for you? Or are you going to break out into bad English again to prove your point, Brock?
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Trump is a clown and talks like a clown. But he's a fellow New Yorker like yourself, so you'll excuse him even if he shoots someone in the middle of 5th Avenue.
It's all sooo painfully clear to the rest of humanity. But keep on drinking the Kool-Aid. Even when presented with physical evidence, you deny shit. How Trumpian of you.
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Tito no reason to get angry. Out of context means you are using the quote about the windmills to show that he was an idiot. But if you listen to the entire three minute clip I understand what he's trying to say don't you? I didn't say that he never said those exact words verbatim but what I said was that .... Umm, what is your point about it? I believe if you see the words he said in the entire context of the whole video or the whole speech or whatever the theme was that day that would be pretty clear what he was trying to say
And just for your information Tito if he shot somebody with a gun on 5th avenue or any avenue for that matter I would advocate him to be arrested and jailed for manslaughter. I know that won't make you feel any better Tito but that's the truth.
It's not because he's from New York. I think he's a genius.
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The first minute of his monologue is the rantings of a man with nothing to say, yet the mouth keeps on spitting out nonsense. When he starts repeating words ("tremendous, tremendous"), you KNOW he's lost. And yet you call him a genius. :rolleyes:
But then I've known you've been brainwashed since he first got elected and you went on about how his shit didn't stink.
"... tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere..." What the FUCK is he even talking about? Windmills?
The guy can't make a coherent sentence to save his life, so he resorts to cheap stand-up comedy to get a few laughs.
Hey, if that's your definition of a genius..... all the more power to you. Good to know some people set the bar so incredibly low.
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TitoFan
The first minute of his monologue is the rantings of a man with nothing to say,
***True he sounds like he is just Making stuff up as he goes along there a little bit but he has the general point in his mind that he is getting too. What's the big deal about that? Many of us sometimes I'm not quite sure if you have something to say but after a few sentences that all comes together. I think you are holding this man to some kind of superhuman standard. Big deal if he has nothing to say for the first moment or two before the first minute or two. I don't see any big deal with that. Some people take longer to get to the point depending on their mood or how long they want the speech to be. This sounds like a big nothing Burger to me but that's just my opinion***
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But then I've known you've been brainwashed
****Nobody brainwash me and my friend. I don't think anybody could possibly.*****
[I]"... tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere..."[/I
***he's talking about the production process of making windmills. That is kind of self-defeating because it is an item which is causing a lot of pollution during the production process.****
Hey, if that's your definition of a genius..... all the more power to you. Good to know some people set the bar so incredibly low.
See above. And I'm telling you get rid of some of that anger. If you dislike Trump this much it's certainly wouldn't be worth it for you to get so upset over a "clown" that it stresses you out or makes you sick.
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I would much rather save a thousand birds than concede to Greta. ;D
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Gandalf
I would much rather save a thousand birds than concede to Greta. ;D
you have not conceded to Greta and you will not concede to Greta because Greta is an illusion of the highest magnitude. I do believe that Greta is the DAJJAL that the Muslims are awaiting.
Does anybody know what the DAJJAL is?
She may be it
