Money & power....that is all those "environmental" groups are about.Originally Posted by Beanz
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Money & power....that is all those "environmental" groups are about.
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Ha! Unlike the fossil fuel companies and your masters Murdoch and Trump. You sound like this absolute melt. In fact you claimed the same rubbish and had to retract the claims you made and apologise for it.Money & power....that is all those "environmental" groups are about.
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What do the fossil fuel companies do to impact my individual life choices?
Windmills are bullshit
If they weren't bullshit why would the Kennedy's oppose them being placed near their compound?
Kennedy tries to halt windmills
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-124537-9804r/
A fight to block alternative fuel development that could replace oil-burning power plants for communities along the Nantucket Sound has created an unusual alliance on Capitol Hill, with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy backing the fight against the green proposal.
Mr. Kennedy, a staunch environmentalist, opposes the Cape Wind project, which will place windmills in the sound’s shallows to create electricity for customers in Cape Cod, Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket.
Critics say the Massachusetts Democrat doesn’t want the Cape Wind project in his own back yard along with 130 windmills that might clutter the water view of the Kennedy clan’s vacation home. Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts’ junior senator and another key green ally, called attempts to derail the project an “insult.”
Now Standard Oil's John D. Rockefeller, yeah he was the prototype of these Climate Change Alarmists we see today and yes he wanted total and complete control of the working man....I didn't much care for him either, but he's dead and big oil is now a lot more diverse and doesn't have the control over the populace as it did before. Rockefeller was one of the people who got Prohibition enacted, delayed/ruined Alcohol being used as a fuel (though it's still used in race cars to this day). No denying his evil just as there's no denying the evil of this "green" movement...it'll be bloodier than Mao's Great Leap, but hey you know best don't you.
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Engineers have in the past done a horseshit job of designing mechanisms to harness the wind and safely and efficiently convert it into electrical power. Yes... windmill failures are spectacularly visible for all to see, and provide perfect cannon fodder for those who oppose renewable energy sources. Videos of failing windmills are readily available, and I've seen others even more spectacular. It's an ongoing process. Maybe the perfect wind-harnessing mechanism is still in the future and just hasn't been envisioned yet. Maybe it's under development.
Still, the failure of one windmill has little long-term or widespread impact..... unlike these.
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If the technology isn't ready then why force it on people? Make it better and people will buy it. It's not efficient....NUCLEAR is hands down the most efficient why the GREEN opposition to it then? Take that and chew it over...what do the Greenies get from saying "no" to nuclear? What's the hangup they have on it?
Where did the oil come from? The Earth...mother nature is a big complex thing and this sort of thing is bound to have happened naturally before (meaning certainly oil has been released into nature in mass amounts before, it has to have) and what happened? Did the world end? Did the Oceans dry up? Did the fish vanish? NO if there's a natural mess, Mother Nature typically handles it and oftentimes comes out the better for it....forest fires (to an extent) are quite beneficial to nature, hurricanes are beneficial albeit a pain in property owners' asses, flooding can be beneficial...oil comes from the Earth and Mother Nature handles her own shit....might look bad for creatures in the direct vicinity but on the whole, not even a drop in the bucket. I'm not saying it's a brilliant thing, I'm just saying it's going to be handled regardless of what we as humans do.
https://response.restoration.noaa.go...crobes-do.html
Life finds a way
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Nuclear has had some spectacular failures. It's only natural for people to become gun-shy about it. Education however, goes a long way. It's a matter of continuing to educate the public about the more stringent standards adopted by the nuclear industry, because from every failure come learning opportunities.
Wind isn't being "forced". Numerous countries across the world have adopted the technology willingly and gratefully. They probably haven't had too many people getting squished by falling windmills, I guess.
Yeah.... Mother Nature can usually be counted on to clean up many of human beings' messes. But I hardly see that as good reasoning to continue pushing the envelope and our luck along with it.
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There have only been 15 events involving nuclear power that have been on the International Nuclear Event Scale and only 2 have reached the highest level. 1: Chernobyl (Communist cheapness and incompetence) and 2: Fukishima (a massive earthquake out at sea which caused a tsunami and also dropped the elevation of Fukishima it was that big of a plate movement) and only 42 people have been directly killed. The majority of those from Chernobyl. This is from 62 years of nuclear power by the way, things have only gotten safer.
Wind IS being forced, it's being subsidized out the wazoo, that's FORCE it's the force of our tax dollars backing a kind of energy which ain't all that wonderful.
Well I guess millions upon millions should look forward to death by the elements and starvation just like the old days.
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