Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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03-26-2020, 02:51 PM
Memphis

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by iwng100

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Originally Posted by Memphis

It's cool mate ;D

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

Absolutely. The overwhelming majority of cases wont even make it onto the radar I'd imagine. Come and go with mild discomfort.

Take care of yourself mate.
03-26-2020, 02:52 PM
Primo Carnera

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

The Percentage of deaths in the UK compared to actual cases in actual fact will be way, way less. we don't know how many people have actually had it , as stated before because of a lack of tests. So conceivably , the figure could easily be 10, 20 times higher than reported.
however, we do know as a matter of fact how many have died from it. so that figure is right to use for percentage purposes, but if it used against a figure of 10 or 20 times more than the official figures , then the percentage will diminish drastically.
03-26-2020, 03:22 PM
TitoFan

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by iwng100

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Originally Posted by Memphis

It's cool mate ;D

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

Not bad for English being your 3rd language. :)

The virus is disquieting for most of us, save the usual exceptions out there in the fringes.

As most here have said, it's tough getting a true handle on the mortality rate of this thing. All we can say for sure is that it seems to vary widely based on age, and apparently by country also.

It's definitely not a static number, as there are so many unknowns in the equation.

The number of people who get the virus changes dramatically daily. Those who recover and those who die are also rapidly changing numbers. Deaths must be carefully cataloged and attributed correctly, as victims may actually die from other pre-existing conditions.

The thing is the contagiousness of the disease. Which is why our adult kids are staying away from us... we're staying away from our own elderly parents... etc, etc. It seems like the responsible and caring thing to do.
03-26-2020, 05:02 PM
iwng100

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by iwng100

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Originally Posted by Memphis

It's cool mate ;D

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

Absolutely. The overwhelming majority of cases wont even make it onto the radar I'd imagine. Come and go with mild discomfort.

Take care of yourself mate.

Thanks mate, Take care of yourself too.
03-26-2020, 06:12 PM
iwng100

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by X

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet ��

I agree 100% with everything you said about the numbers, this is why I mentioned in the previous posts we can't make any statistic for those who are still sick and even for those who were sick (closed cases) the MR percentage presented by worldometers.info could be higher than the real one because there are probably more recovered, but my intervention in this thread was only a disagreement to ACDP to not classify the Covid -19 as an HCID because, according to them, it has a low mortality rate.
This kind of attitude and the numerous "anti-panic" talk-shows, make a lot of young people to think they are safe and to become careless.
One of my friends, a close one, he said to me he's not worried at all : " I'm 51 years old in a very good condition, at 3-4 % mortality rate I'm sure I 'll survive if I'll catch it " he didn't even take in consideration he'd put in danger his 82years old mother who lives in the same house.
And yes, I agree that 100% of coronavirus patients will eventually die ;).
03-26-2020, 10:41 PM
Alpha

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by Memphis

For what it's worth I don't see the value in what Alpha posted either. No one has ever claimed that corona virus = death.

I'm not saying they claimed that. But by classifying it as a HCID under their own definition it states:

Typically has a high case-fatality rate.

Some more information:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...e-2018-to-2019

https://mainlyboxing.files.wordpress...020/03/ams.jpg

From the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

https://mainlyboxing.files.wordpress...020/03/cdc.jpg
03-27-2020, 12:10 AM
Memphis

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

I'm not quite sure what those images and figures are supposed to show? UK all cause mortality shows no excess. We've got 500 deaths in the UK. Stick 500 deaths on the expected and that might mean something, maybe, possibly? Also factor in no one is going anywhere or doing anything so being robbed of the opportunity of getting killed in much cooler ways. I'm guessing the general gist is nothing doing here, no one is dying to excess? I'm not sure if that's the case or if it matters.

The CDC one. I'm no statistician or mathematician but US figures

Flu (lowest number) 23000 deaths, 38000000 cases = 0.06 mortality rate. The 38000000 is estimated.

Corona 1177 deaths, 82177 cases = 1.43 mortality rate. The 82177 are confirmed cases.

The mortality rate for Corona Virus is significantly higher.

Is the argument here that more people get flu therefor more people die? True, over all. I'll be honest, I've only looked at a dozen or so weekly reports so I'm probably off base. The number I was seeing was around 11-12000 confirmed cases of flu per week nationwide. When was the first case of corona Virus in the US? Start of March? lets say 4 weeks ago? And now 82000 confirmed cases, 20000 per week.

P4P, corona kicks flu's ass.

Again I'm no stato, probably got all that wrong but meh, we're all board, killed a bit of time. I said the same thing early doors, Pah!! it's interim flu.
03-27-2020, 03:28 AM
TitoFan

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by Memphis

P4P, corona kicks flu's ass.

Kudos for putting the boxing stamp on it. ;D
03-27-2020, 01:28 PM
Beanz

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by iwng100

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Originally Posted by X

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet ��

I agree 100% with everything you said about the numbers, this is why I mentioned in the previous posts we can't make any statistic for those who are still sick and even for those who were sick (closed cases) the MR percentage presented by worldometers.info could be higher than the real one because there are probably more recovered, but my intervention in this thread was only a disagreement to ACDP to not classify the Covid -19 as an HCID because, according to them, it has a low mortality rate.
This kind of attitude and the numerous "anti-panic" talk-shows, make a lot of young people to think they are safe and to become careless.
One of my friends, a close one, he said to me he's not worried at all : " I'm 51 years old in a very good condition, at 3-4 % mortality rate I'm sure I 'll survive if I'll catch it " he didn't even take in consideration he'd put in danger his 82years old mother who lives in the same house.
And yes, I agree that 100% of coronavirus patients will eventually die ;).

You are right there are a lot of clueless selfish people out there with an "I'm alright Jack" attitude.

Happy Birthday and stay safe.
03-27-2020, 05:55 PM
iwng100

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by Beanz

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Originally Posted by iwng100

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Originally Posted by X

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet ��

I agree 100% with everything you said about the numbers, this is why I mentioned in the previous posts we can't make any statistic for those who are still sick and even for those who were sick (closed cases) the MR percentage presented by worldometers.info could be higher than the real one because there are probably more recovered, but my intervention in this thread was only a disagreement to ACDP to not classify the Covid -19 as an HCID because, according to them, it has a low mortality rate.
This kind of attitude and the numerous "anti-panic" talk-shows, make a lot of young people to think they are safe and to become careless.
One of my friends, a close one, he said to me he's not worried at all : " I'm 51 years old in a very good condition, at 3-4 % mortality rate I'm sure I 'll survive if I'll catch it " he didn't even take in consideration he'd put in danger his 82years old mother who lives in the same house.
And yes, I agree that 100% of coronavirus patients will eventually die ;).

You are right there are a lot of clueless selfish people out there with an "I'm alright Jack" attitude.

Happy Birthday and stay safe.

Thanks mate, I appreciate, you too stay safe.
03-29-2020, 02:34 PM
smashup

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

There's loads of these videos starting to surface now.

https://youtu.be/k7qxMBqRNZs
03-29-2020, 09:59 PM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

moronavirus is real
03-30-2020, 04:00 AM
walrus

The corona wuhan virus is a conspiracy explanation thread

I notice @TIC and one or two other people seem to imply there is something different with this virus. I’m always interested in hearing what may actually be happening. Would anyone who feels that way care to tell us what is really happening. And tic not trying to stick you out but you have made several comments I assume you have a complete thought about it in your head.
03-30-2020, 04:08 AM
TitoFan

Re: The corona wuhan virus is a conspiracy explanation thread

And please..... when you have something.... please share it with the conspiracy theory thread. We need to get all these theories together so we can put together a Saddo task force and get some real intel.
03-30-2020, 04:44 AM
walrus

Re: The corona wuhan virus is a conspiracy explanation thread

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

And please..... when you have something.... please share it with the conspiracy theory thread. We need to get all these theories together so we can put together a Saddo task force and get some real intel.

Oh shit has it been mentioned in that thread I forgot about it. These comments some people make about the virus really make me want to know what they are thinking.
03-30-2020, 10:46 PM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

i have the idea that it's bullshit
03-30-2020, 10:52 PM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.
03-30-2020, 10:59 PM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test
03-30-2020, 11:23 PM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.
03-30-2020, 11:28 PM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with
03-30-2020, 11:46 PM
Gandalf

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

CNN has 2923 deaths on the screen. Why not tell us that 7500 people die daily and that in the time to accumulate those 2923 deaths another several hundred thousand others have died too? Many more have died from other causes than even been infected.

It is somewhat fear porn and normies are terrified. They will give up a lot to have Daddy hold their hand. If you don't want Granddad to get sick then keep him in a room, but everyone else? Stop eating auto inmune inducing foods and look after yourself. Get on with life. You will die sooner than you think anyway.

Bloody jounalists writing crap about how staying home and reading a book induces anxiety and articles about how staying at home is so difficult. Even staying home is to feared. What planet is everyone on? Grow up. Man up.
03-31-2020, 12:04 AM
Gandalf

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

If you are concerned about yourself and others then wear a mask, gloves, and be hygienic. Lock up grandma. You did your part. Enjoy the book, do some work, enjoy life, maybe turn off the TV.
03-31-2020, 12:25 AM
TitoFan

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif
03-31-2020, 01:32 AM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif

Thanks tits it’s like pulling teeth
03-31-2020, 03:46 AM
TitoFan

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif

Thanks tits it’s like pulling teeth

i know... the suspense is killing me
03-31-2020, 06:05 PM
ykdadamaja

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

What if the USA created it to hurt China and it backfired on them?
:o
04-01-2020, 08:53 AM
smashup

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

I said right at the start of this thread that theres way more to this than meets the eye.
Lòok how many places across the world that are now completely out of control.
People are waking up to the fact that China has massively covered the real death toll up, as for how this started I still don't believe for a second this came from bat soup.
04-01-2020, 09:57 AM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by smashup

I said right at the start of this thread that theres way more to this than meets the eye.
Lòok how many places across the world that are now completely out of control.
People are waking up to the fact that China has massively covered the real death toll up, as for how this started I still don't believe for a second this came from bat soup.

I heard it could be 250,000 dead in wuhan. I have family in China and they don’t believe what their government tells them. Fortunately most Chinese civilians dismissed the idea when the Chinese government said the US created the virus to attack China. I think we get shit like that from the hardcore faction of the Chinese politburo or whatever they call it. If China would be honest and give us accurate numbers it would help determine what may be in store for others. I don’t think they give a shit about such things.
04-01-2020, 10:57 AM
Master

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by smashup

I said right at the start of this thread that theres way more to this than meets the eye.
Lòok how many places across the world that are now completely out of control.
People are waking up to the fact that China has massively covered the real death toll up, as for how this started I still don't believe for a second this came from bat soup.

I heard it could be 250,000 dead in wuhan. I have family in China and they don’t believe what their government tells them. Fortunately most Chinese civilians dismissed the idea when the Chinese government said the US created the virus to attack China. I think we get shit like that from the hardcore faction of the Chinese politburo or whatever they call it. If China would be honest and give us accurate numbers it would help determine what may be in store for others. I don’t think they give a shit about such things.

I read Chinese scientists have gone to Italy to help share their experience of how to control the spread of the virus which seems to be slowly working.
04-01-2020, 11:02 AM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by smashup

I said right at the start of this thread that theres way more to this than meets the eye.
Lòok how many places across the world that are now completely out of control.
People are waking up to the fact that China has massively covered the real death toll up, as for how this started I still don't believe for a second this came from bat soup.

I heard it could be 250,000 dead in wuhan. I have family in China and they don’t believe what their government tells them. Fortunately most Chinese civilians dismissed the idea when the Chinese government said the US created the virus to attack China. I think we get shit like that from the hardcore faction of the Chinese politburo or whatever they call it. If China would be honest and give us accurate numbers it would help determine what may be in store for others. I don’t think they give a shit about such things.

I read Chinese scientists have gone to Italy to help share their experience of how to control the spread of the virus which seems to be slowly working.

And the US and China have been helping each other lately. It seems like a very strange nation politically but Xi knows what the world is thinking about China and the wuhan virus so I would think he should encourage more outreach. The truth, maybe not.
04-01-2020, 02:09 PM
iwng100

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

What if the USA created it to hurt China and it backfired on them?
:o

More likely the other way around.
04-02-2020, 12:37 AM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif

the creatures in control that have placed you into a deep state of dis ease. the world has been shut down by words
04-02-2020, 12:51 AM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

these videos are popping up all over the world, check your hospitals to verify for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJHp6SSmAOw&t=7s
#FilmYourHospital #EmptyHospital
04-02-2020, 03:07 AM
TitoFan

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif

the creatures in control that have placed you into a deep state of dis ease. the world has been shut down by words

https://r11.fodey.com/2622/a8383e22a...c7def06f.0.jpg
04-02-2020, 05:59 AM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif

the creatures in control that have placed you into a deep state of dis ease. the world has been shut down by words

https://r11.fodey.com/2622/a8383e22a...c7def06f.0.jpg

Classic
04-02-2020, 06:43 AM
palmerq

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

I'm waiting for the pictures to be leaked....
04-02-2020, 09:17 AM
TIC

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by TIC

i have the idea that it's bullshit

Not much of an answer. What is it.

a test

Of what.

of how much they can get away with

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TGi51...4ut9/giphy.gif

the creatures in control that have placed you into a deep state of dis ease. the world has been shut down by words

https://r11.fodey.com/2622/a8383e22a...c7def06f.0.jpg

almost as good as cnn & abc fake news. only thing canelo needs my help with is spit roasting gatas
04-02-2020, 11:04 AM
TitoFan

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

Thanks in no small part to my own personal recommendations.... it seems our resident conspiracy theory expert TIC has found a new gig

https://i.imgflip.com/3v22sc.jpg

Join me in congratulating our fellow Saddo member :appl:

Keep up the good work. :thumb:
04-02-2020, 11:51 AM
Beanz

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04-02-2020, 07:13 PM
walrus

Re: Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They sequenced the DNA for this virus. It's not man made. It likely came from bats. A bat bit some animal that transferred the virus to a human somehow. Probably at that meat market in Wuhan. Why does everybody on this board believe all the crazy shit out there?

Wait Kirk you said it didn’t start in China remember? It started in the US you said, and you believed it

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