Is Coronavirus a biological weapon?

[Memphis]

It's cool mate

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

[iwng100]

It's cool mate

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

[X]

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet 👍🏼

[Primo Carnera]

The Percentage of deaths in the UK compared to actual cases in actual fact will be way, way less. we don't know how many people have actually had it , as stated before because of a lack of tests. So conceivably , the figure could easily be 10, 20 times higher than reported.
however, we do know as a matter of fact how many have died from it. so that figure is right to use for percentage purposes, but if it used against a figure of 10 or 20 times more than the official figures , then the percentage will diminish drastically.

[iwng100]

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet ������������

I agree 100% with everything you said about the numbers, this is why I mentioned in the previous posts we can't make any statistic for those who are still sick and even for those who were sick (closed cases) the MR percentage presented by worldometers.info could be higher than the real one because there are probably more recovered, but my intervention in this thread was only a disagreement to ACDP to not classify the Covid -19 as an HCID because, according to them, it has a low mortality rate.
This kind of attitude and the numerous "anti-panic" talk-shows, make a lot of young people to think they are safe and to become careless.
One of my friends, a close one, he said to me he's not worried at all : " I'm 51 years old in a very good condition, at 3-4 % mortality rate I'm sure I 'll survive if I'll catch it " he didn't even take in consideration he'd put in danger his 82years old mother who lives in the same house.
And yes, I agree that 100% of coronavirus patients will eventually die .

[Beanz]

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet ������������

I agree 100% with everything you said about the numbers, this is why I mentioned in the previous posts we can't make any statistic for those who are still sick and even for those who were sick (closed cases) the MR percentage presented by worldometers.info could be higher than the real one because there are probably more recovered, but my intervention in this thread was only a disagreement to ACDP to not classify the Covid -19 as an HCID because, according to them, it has a low mortality rate.
This kind of attitude and the numerous "anti-panic" talk-shows, make a lot of young people to think they are safe and to become careless.
One of my friends, a close one, he said to me he's not worried at all : " I'm 51 years old in a very good condition, at 3-4 % mortality rate I'm sure I 'll survive if I'll catch it " he didn't even take in consideration he'd put in danger his 82years old mother who lives in the same house.
And yes, I agree that 100% of coronavirus patients will eventually die .

You are right there are a lot of clueless selfish people out there with an "I'm alright Jack" attitude.


Happy Birthday and stay safe.

[iwng100]

I don't know about other countries, but mass testing has not taken place on the UK. In fact, the only cases reported in the numbers are those people who HAVE been definitively tested as positive ..... and that is only some of those people who have actively presented in hospital or doctor surgeeries.

That means nobody really knows the total number of cases, yes?

The true number of cases is almost certainly higher, by many multiples. But nobody knows how many. Similarly, there will be cases who have fully recovered and aren't in these numbers.

How on earth is it possible to Calculate a % mortality rate (and compare it across countries) when we don't know the vital figure of total number of infections.?

Equally, you do know that different countries have different testing methods, different definitions of what 'infected' means and also different attitudes towards mass testing? Some countries will also simply lie about their numbers.

That chart is essentially meaningless as it is not comparing like for like. The numbers are not consistently arrived at so no comparison is possible.

Drawing any sort of conclusions from such flawed data is a castle built on sand.

Iwng100 ..... yes, this whole thing is disquieting buddy. Try not to fuel your (very understandable) anxiety by looking at idiots' so called science on the internet ������������

I agree 100% with everything you said about the numbers, this is why I mentioned in the previous posts we can't make any statistic for those who are still sick and even for those who were sick (closed cases) the MR percentage presented by worldometers.info could be higher than the real one because there are probably more recovered, but my intervention in this thread was only a disagreement to ACDP to not classify the Covid -19 as an HCID because, according to them, it has a low mortality rate.
This kind of attitude and the numerous "anti-panic" talk-shows, make a lot of young people to think they are safe and to become careless.
One of my friends, a close one, he said to me he's not worried at all : " I'm 51 years old in a very good condition, at 3-4 % mortality rate I'm sure I 'll survive if I'll catch it " he didn't even take in consideration he'd put in danger his 82years old mother who lives in the same house.
And yes, I agree that 100% of coronavirus patients will eventually die .

You are right there are a lot of clueless selfish people out there with an "I'm alright Jack" attitude.


Happy Birthday and stay safe.

Thanks mate, I appreciate, you too stay safe.

[smashup]

There's loads of these videos starting to surface now.

[Memphis]

It's cool mate

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

Absolutely. The overwhelming majority of cases wont even make it onto the radar I'd imagine. Come and go with mild discomfort.

Take care of yourself mate.

[iwng100]

It's cool mate

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

Absolutely. The overwhelming majority of cases wont even make it onto the radar I'd imagine. Come and go with mild discomfort.

Take care of yourself mate.

Thanks mate, Take care of yourself too.

[TitoFan]

It's cool mate

I wasn't questioning the formula or language, just why those numbers would actually be used and the end result.

I think these numbers will decrease in time, because I think there are more recovers who are not confirmed yet, but is still very disquieting for everybody, especially
for people like me, almost 60 with heart problems.

Not bad for English being your 3rd language.

The virus is disquieting for most of us, save the usual exceptions out there in the fringes.

As most here have said, it's tough getting a true handle on the mortality rate of this thing. All we can say for sure is that it seems to vary widely based on age, and apparently by country also.

It's definitely not a static number, as there are so many unknowns in the equation.

The number of people who get the virus changes dramatically daily. Those who recover and those who die are also rapidly changing numbers. Deaths must be carefully cataloged and attributed correctly, as victims may actually die from other pre-existing conditions.

The thing is the contagiousness of the disease. Which is why our adult kids are staying away from us... we're staying away from our own elderly parents... etc, etc. It seems like the responsible and caring thing to do.