Just like her and Potato Joe
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Just like her and Potato Joe
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SlAk_QMn...KIMEYm5Rnf3lsq
Yep. Biden's too old to serve another term. Some of us agree with that.
Food for thought
https://youtube.com/shorts/7Av6y-uVc...t87vBrAYNma8Gj
Ready for another round?
https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=64ef...247075b9ea3b1b
The New York Fed's inflation gauge that attempts to capture the underlying trend of inflation, called the "multivariate core trend," fell to less than 2.8% in July (June was revised down to 2.8% from 2.9%) This is the lowest reading since January 2021
https://twitter.com/NickTimiraos/sta...36065292914969
This is close to the Fed's two percent target. Central banks all target two percent inflation as it allows stable economic growth at that level. Since the 2000s it's been stuck at one point something or less. Not even huge increased government spending coupled with tax cuts coupled with super low interest rates during the Trump years managed to get it above two percent. The pandemic changed that but it's subsided nicely since then.
It's a complete joke because they don't count food or rent, the two most important things to most regular people
It does in fact include rents which are down about one percent over the past year.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
What it doesn't include are food and energy prices which are volatile and governed by things that aren't affected by government policy, monetary policy and interest rates so they're left out and they're left out under every president or administration to give the financial industry and the Fed and the Treasury, the people who really matter, accurate information on inflation and its sources.
What do you think might happen to inflation in America should an authoritarian government take power? These kind of right wing governments don't have the best track record as far as inflation goes. Triple digits is actually on the good side of average outcomes. Add on there's never been an economy in the world ever that is so geared to rule of law, limited government interference, freedom of movement and so on and all of these things would be swept away by such a government causing significant inflationary pressures. What do you see as the positives from such a government that would outweigh the various negative effects it would have?
I'm not into the Prediction Thread, but I'll make one here.
Hunter Biden will help get Trump re-elected in 2024.
Hunter FUCKING Biden.
Yes... bring on all the graphs that show why I'm wrong. Fact of the matter is Hunter has LONG been a HUGE liability to Joe, whether people want to accept it or not.
From the strictly human standpoint, you gotta feel for Joe Biden. He's had a tragic personal life, which included the fatal accident that killed his first wife and his daughter. His oldest son died in 2015 from brain cancer. No one should have to go through such tragedies.
But Hunter has done his father no favors. If nothing else, be considerate of your father's positions in politics, damn it. Hunter has... to put it mega-mildly, placed his father between a rock and a hard place. He's Joe's lone surviving son... and realistically it must be difficult navigating Hunter's wrongdoings while campaigning for re-election. All of us can say how we would handle it... but none of us has ever had to walk in Joe's shoes.
Still, reality is what it is. Joe Biden has two huge liabilities. His fucking son... and his age.
Meanwhile... in the GOP circus tent full of wannabes and spineless flip-floppers... there is NO ONE who will realistically challenge Trump.
So we're fucked.
The only thing that can stop a Trump re-election in 2024 is jail... and so far I'm less than optimistic that is actually going to happen.
And once Trump is re-elected you can only guess what's gonna happen to free elections, right? ;)
I hope you are wrong but you are saying Hunter is the new Hillary to get Trump in. :o
In a way, I guess. Hillary was such an unlikable and untrustworthy candidate that people just went with (what they thought was) the lesser evil. Had Trump had a decent opponent in front of him, he would've never been President.
Hunter, I believe, is Biden's main Achilles heel in 2024. If Trump doesn't go to prison, Hunter may well be Joe's undoing.
It won't be Hunter Biden that causes Biden to lose, it'll be the media's coverage of Biden and his various issues versus how they cover Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
It's all down to context. The vast majority of Americans don't pay nearly as much attention to politics as we do. They get a lot of their news from word of mouth and their freinds on social media or whatever. A lot of people only watch the news while they're doing something else, eating or whatever. I don't watch any media but whatever coverage the Hunter Biden issues are getting should be put in context. What happens is that the media show Trump's various issues and Biden's Hunter/age issues and give them fairly equal seriousness.
Even if every word they said about Joe Biden being involved with Hunter is true, and it isn't*, there's no comparison to Trump. I'm not talking about the coup attempt or the various other indictments, I'm talking about graft and grift while in office. Trump uniquely among presidents refused to divest himself of business interests when he became prez. He was running a business that suddenly for the first time went international and had loads of foreign governments and businesses paying him money. A short and incomplete list. Keep scrolling:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status...01835507060743
Half a dozen examples there id twitter isn't cooperating.
His daughter was given various business concessions by the Chinese governemt along with Trump who operated a Chinese back account while president. His son in law baled out having made the worst real estate deal in history and bankrupting his family business with hundreds of millions of dollars of Middle Eastern money while working in the White House. He has since been given a couple of billion dollars of Saudi money.
Trump operated a hotel a few blocks from the White House that was a huge source of income from various governments. Foreign governments would book entire floors of rooms at full price for weeks. Endless examples of documented graft just from the hotel.
The point is there was endless graft and corruption from Trump and his family while he was prez. The media should point out that comparing Biden's graft claims, even if true is ridiculous. But they don't so that, they're so constantly attacked for being the liberal media that in election runups they give equal time to the shit that both sides want to talk about. So the public ends up with the idea that both guys are corrupt.
It doesn't hurt as far as the media goes that Trump is a massive ratings machine and him and his people get a huge amount of free time to spout this bullshit because it makes the media money.
The media need to scrap this horserace even handed shot and point out that one party has completely abandoned the rule of law. Every candidate on the debate stage recently said they'd support a four time indicted nominee even if he's convicted of a felony. The election of Trump would be the end of democracy in America, a point what little establishment there is left in America is trying to make:
https://www.mediaite.com/uncategoriz...int-statement/
https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/...57958555820418
Twenty years ago a New York Times columnist pointed out how the GOP working the refs over perceived liberal bias meant they could now get away with endless bullshit. He said that if the Democrats said the earth was round and the GOP said it was flat the NYT headline would be Parties' Views On Shape Of Earth Differ. It's got a lot worse since then. If they're going to cover this election like it's relatively normal and not pooint out that one party is basically full on fascist we're probably going to end wp with a fascist government just over a year from now.
*The worst allegations about Biden are that he met with some of Hunter's business partners but didn't discuss any business. This is massively unethical and walks up the the line legally but isn't illegal. Still a bad look though but nothing at all compared to the previous guy. There's a lot more being said that is demonstrable bullshit but from the media clips I've seen on the internet they're not demonstrating that it is. Instead we're getting Republicans say this, the White House says this bothsides bullshit. They're terrified to tell people the shape of the earth because the GOP are so effective at working the refs and delegitimising them.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
If Hunter Biden was squeaky clean or at least reasonably guiltless... there would be no media coverage of him and his dad, now would there.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Only proves my point even further. The dumbing down of America on full display. People are only too happy to grab onto snippets of what they think is trustworthy news. Social media wannabes are the new journalists. Loudmouths like Trump get legions of Minions groveling after their every thickheaded word (just look at a few examples on this forum). So Hunter's indiscretions (and I claim no more inside knowledge of the details than anybody else can) are wonderful fodder for the Trumpeteers. Whereas Biden's age is not some social media construct. It's a reality. IMHO, being well into your 80's while President is just not good policy. You and I have certainly disagreed on what it takes to identify new candidates. But none of that changes the fact that Biden's quickly becoming too old to effectively hold onto the reins of what might still qualify as the most powerful nation in the world.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You know this. I know this. But the hordes of mindless Minions that follow Trump like the Pied Piper either don't know this... or know it but don't care. I don't know which is worse.
Trump finished off a process that was already occurring in U.S. society. The dumbing down, polarization, the need for instant information without the background, the importance placed on social media "experts", etc, etc, etc. All of these became incredibly and instantly magnified under Trump. Trump brought out the worst in people... and laughed all the way to the bank. What to call a (cough) President who calls other nations "shithole countries"? What to call a President that generalizes a whole nation as being "rapists and criminals"? What to call a President that makes fun of a disabled person and then lies about it? What to call a President that claims to want to "drain the swamp" and then proceeds to hire nothing but "yes men"? What to call a President who claims to know more about (fill in the blank) than anyone else?
No MAGA fans give a shit about Trump's profiting off the Presidency (him or his family). They just embrace the "us vs. them" mentality that Trump has so gleefully put forth.
So what continues to piss me off is how easily many things about Biden have played into MAGA Minion hands.
Trump gets elected regardless of fuckwit hunter.
Regardless.
And these phony cringeworthy assholes disappear foreverQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
https://youtu.be/PoXxAsk8Qhw?si=5YJwO1RUKwxPjteP
How is this the same person
https://youtube.com/shorts/wrP_7_-X_...A05swIOoABKgYc
If Hunter was squeaky clean there'd be media coverage of whatever else Republicans were pushing to attack Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Biden is defnitely too old to run for prez. He should gracefully hand over to somebody else and walk away. But there's no way to gracefully do it. Kamala Harris probably still thinks the nation could see her as a commander in chief. Various other useless unelectable fuckers like the California governor would stand for the nomination. There'd be a contested primary of a bunch of second and third rate candidates because there's nobody good with any national profile at all on the Democratic bench. Looking at it it has all the makings of a horrific clusterfuck. The base would probably wish that Biden hadn't stood down and honestly that's probably the least worst option. I'm not going to say Biden is the best option, he's not good, but he's the least worst option available.
The media are going to do him no faavours though. The fucker he'll be running against is only three years younger and lives on junk food. As much as Biden's health could decide things there could easily be a KFC aortic occlusion on the other side but the health/age coverage will go only one way. I know Trump fans are going to support him no matter what but it's the few million and maybe only few hundred thousand swing voters in the mushy middle who need to hear the differencebetween Biden and Trump sleaze. Instead they're going to get Trump says this, the White House says this.
If they put it into context they'd be telling the truth but massively helping Biden and they're too scared to do that because they'd get hit with a GOP shitstorm about how biased they are and the corporations who own the media only make a small fraction of their profits from news and don't want to cause problems for their main businesses so they bothsides everything controversial. Just wait until they impeach Biden. Even some Republicans admit there's zero evidence on which to impreach Biden but they're going to do it anyway.
https://www.rawstory.com/freedom-cau...n-impeachment/
Will the media point this out to the public? No, they'll stay right out of it. Republicans say this, Democrats say this.
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Basically we agree on all points.
Biden's too old... but there's no electable substitute waiting in the wings. The thought of Kamala as Prez is enough to turn the strongest stomach into knots. "Horrific clusterfuck" is precisely the term that fits best to describe having to choose from other current candidates. I agree that Biden is the least worst option available.
Something interesting you brought up about age. Trump is no spring chicken himself... and yet no one seems to say a damn thing about it. Taking a "doomsday" point of view... I've thought about the prospect of Trump somehow being elected. The only silver lining in that scenario is that he HIMSELF would be too old to serve a third term. (Does the 2-term limit apply regardless of whether there was a gap in between?).
Shit. The most powerful nation in the world... and all we have to choose from are a couple of old geezers. One which is DEFINITELY too old to be President... and another one who should be in prison right now.
Politics in the U.S. was always a little dirty... but now it's in ruins... courtesy of frigging Trump. Republicans are caught between a rock and hard place. They either continue to service Trump's manhood at every available opportunity... or they get ostracized by the rest of the Party for the mortal sin of having a backbone and individual thought. Any newcomer who even thinks about being an alternative to Trump gets immediately ripped to shreds by the GOP machinery. The regular Joe Blow on the street who could at least halfway decently articulate elements from their Party platform, now walk around with glazed looks... wearing MAGA hats and not knowing a damn thing (or caring) about the issues.
Kamala is being unfairly demonised by the media and opposition. She would make a good president and did a decent job when Biden was in hospital.
There was no insurrection and the 20/20 elections were rigged and stolen
#facts
You are lucky you did not go otherwise you would have been in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
You may literally be the only human being who thinks thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I did go and I was in jailQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou are lucky you did not go otherwise you would have been in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Even the installed president realizes it
https://youtube.com/shorts/B82yu5W6i...sqMal5U8UzP4f1
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Originally Posted by Master
Oh wait... wha?
Back in 2019 when the Democratic runners and riders were getting ready and pundits were placing their bets almost none of them picked Biden. One of the few to do so was this guy who has quite a track record over the past few years. I agree with all of this:
Biden Should Pick A New Running Mate for 2024: Gretchen Whitmer
The president's advanced age and the closeness of the 2024 polls mean Joe Biden needs the partner who can best help him win, govern and lead. That's not Kamala Harris.
When he is renominated as the Democratic candidate for president, Joe Biden will need to choose a running mate. The polls are close and the stakes are high, so he needs a partner who will do as much as possible to help him win re-election. Given widespread public concern about his age, it is even more important than usual that his running mate be someone that a majority of the voting public is comfortable envisioning succeeding to the presidency. And his pick should be someone who is credible as the future leader of the Democratic Party. Part of the problem in the 2020 primary campaign was that none of the younger candidates had a credible forward-looking pitch that was broadly acceptable across the party’s coalition in the way Biden’s was; since whoever Biden picks as VP is highly likely to be the Democratic presidential candidate in 2028, he shouldpick someone who can pass that test in the same way he did. And let’s throw in one more bonus factor: It would be great if his running mate had a regional appeal that gave the Democratic ticket a leg up in one or more battleground states, such as, to choose a completely random example, Michigan.
Who’s the available person who stacks up best on those measures? Could it possibly be Kamala Harris?
Of course, the way I framed the question is not how people normally talk about this issue. Normally, the frame is that Harris has the spot on the ticket, and if she is to be replaced, it must be taken away from her. As such, the question people tend to argue about is whether Harris is performing so poorly that she ought to be fired from the ticket. But technically, there is no ticket yet to be fired from. The delegates to next year’s Democratic Convention will affirmatively choose a new candidate for Vice President, and if they choose Harris, it will be for the same reason they did in 2020: Joe Biden, who will again have won a majority of delegates in presidential nominating contests, will have asked them to do so. Biden should only make that ask if Harris is the very best option to help him win, govern and lead — that is, he should only pick her if she is excellent, rather than merely satisfactory.
Kamala Harris, unfortunately, is not an excellent candidate for the vice presidency. There are better options available and he should pick one of them — specifically, as I’ll discuss below, he should pick Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer......
https://www.joshbarro.com/p/biden-sh...utm_medium=ios
Bidenomics is a total failure
https://youtube.com/shorts/bsMtIcCw2...zl0CkP5UY-joLL
Now we have trans leaders losing F-35 jets under Biden
Biden being blamed for everything that happens in the USA now?
Didn't you know that DC Draino is currently one of the leading sources of news in the U.S.?
The man is a paragon of unbiased commentary, and his viewpoints are held in the highest regard throughout the country.
Geez, @Master
Am I going to have to keep you up to date on all this stuff?
You're right. I realize now that only the sources you use are leading and unbiased. And that also we should judge the sources by their username as well. 🙂Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Just like you would say when Trump was the commander-in-chief that everything happens under his watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I would not blame Trump for a military plane crashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellJust like you would say when Trump was the commander-in-chief that everything happens under his watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellYou're right. I realize now that only the sources you use are leading and unbiased. And that also we should judge the sources by their username as well. 🙂Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Au contraire. I think AP News should verify all its news with DC Draino first.
I think Walter Cronkite would shed a tear of joy, were he alive today to see the professionalism and objectivity of DC Draino.