What combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
Damn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
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What combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXT1gVtK8b0
Geez.....what did the mainstream media ever do to deserve.....
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Nevermind
The FISA court was told that the Steele dossier, which represented five paragraphs of evidence in over fifty pages of evidence in the FISA application, came from somebody looking to damage Trump's candidacy so the article is misleading. I posted the entire part of the application a few pages back but it's fallen off your shelf already. So it wasn't the bulk of the evidence like the article says. And Page wasn't a member of Trump's campaign (like the article says) when the application was made, he'd left months previously. And the article says there were over four hundred pages of evidence presented to the court over the course of multiple applications but the dossier was just five paragraphs. Five paragraphs is not the bulk of four hundred pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
And something else I just read recently; Carter Page, the subject of the FISA warrant, also had a FISA warrant granted to wiretap him in 2012, four years before Trump ran for election. And don't forget the FISA warrant the article is referring to was renewed three times after the initial application. Each renewal meant that in the previous six months the FBI had picked up evidence to warrant extending the warrant, otherwise the warrant would have expired after the first six month period was up.
Another thing Lyle. This campaign to get Rosenstein to release a bunch of documents is just theatre to fool the rubes, to give Fox News and the rest of conservative media something to talk about instead of having to deal with the Mueller investigation. You know why? Trump can declassify any socument he wants to with the stroke of a pen. If there was evidence that Trump was being set up by the deep state Trump could release all of it today with an executive order. But there isn't any so we're going through this ridiculous charade.
Also Lyle. As far as I'm aware the Qanon nonsense posits that Trump has a whole load of classified and other information that he's just waiting to release and then there's going to be mass arrests and so on. When this whole thing plays out and Trump doesn't release all this stuff, even though he can do it any time he wants to, will you admit you were fooled and the conspiracy theory is a load of bullshit? Is there any scenario in which you'll admit you were fooled?
He's charged the secret service more for using his golf carts to follow him round his various golf clubs than he earns being prez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/06/2...g-machine.html
When was he charged and exonerated?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Rasmussen is basically the GOP polling department. Gallup is the gold standard for presidential approval. Same methodology for nearly seventy years.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/...al-weekly.aspx
As North Korea’s vague, timetable-free promises to one day denuclearize the Korean peninsula have melted away, President Trump has emphasized his shrewd bargaining for the remains of American soldiers killed in the Korean War. “We got back our great fallen heroes, the remains sent back today, already 200 got sent back,” boasted Donald Trump earlier this summer.
Unsurprisingly, this is false. North Korea has almost certainly not sent back anything close to 200 bodies. In the past, the regime has promised to return the remains of servicemen, but actually handed over unidentifiable bones of many people and some animals.
The latest batch of 55 boxes of remains from North Korea has just been received, and appears to fit the historic pattern. According to the Associated Press, the boxes contain “a single military dog tag but no other information that could help U.S. forensics experts determine their individual identities.”
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ollapsing.html
I posted that July 28th. https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1024631858045313024 Lovely hearing the Specials again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
But they weren't informed that "somebody" was Hillary Clinton nor were they informed that Fusion GPS had hired scholar and professor Nellie Ohr as a “paid Russian expert.” Nellie Ohr happens to be married to Bruce Ohr, deputy attorney general in the Justice Department. Bruce Ohr is alleged to have passed his wife’s anti-Trump research to the FBI. He was demoted for failing to disclose not only his wife’s employment with Fusion GPS, but also his own meetings with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Unless of course you'd care to point out where the FISA judge was told exactly those things...."It was from a candidate looking to harm Trump"....oh Bernie? McMullen? Jill Stein? One of them? Nah just you know "A Candidate"......doesn't really matter who....fucking hell man.
And you ASSume that this was all on the up and up...I question whether or not those warrant extensions were kosher and I'd like to see the evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
We'll see what happens when the smoke clears...you and me and everyone else...what is so difficult to understand about that? Why so fucking worried about what I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Is Q a LARP? :dontknow: but I'm skeptical of that because at the very least given information that Q has provided it pretty much has to be somebody very close to Trump.
Is Q Trump? :dontknow: but I'm fairly certain if Q isn't Trump at the very least Trump knows of Q.
Is Q Trump using the internet to spread his own propaganda? :dontknow: That could be very possible and I haven't ruled that out.
Is Q a member/members of Trump's staff? :dontknow: My best guess is members + Trump
The big question is "Why isn't the media attempting to figure out who Q is and if Q is in fact real or Trump playing games?".....the recent articles call Q a "conspiracy theory"...it's not a "conspiracy theory" it's messages on 8chan and those messages are really happening it's not a hallucination.
One would think some intrepid reporter would do their fucking homework and delve a little deeper into Q if it's so "crazy" or so "important"...it's certainly a way of delivering messages to Trump's base which bypasses the media altogether.....funny the media isn't as concerned or intrigued by that as you'd think they'd be.
We'll see what happens once the smoke clears. Trump is very good as a marketer, could very well be Q is Trump marketing to his base but Q wouldn't be as possible or as popular if the mainstream media had not burned the public one too many times.
Just look at Republican Presidential candidates of the past...PRE election "Bob Dole/John McCain/Mitt Romney is wonderful, we love Bob Dole/John McCain/Mitt Romney is great acceptable Republican candidate" ....election nears "Bob Dole/John McCain/Mitt Romney is the devil!" every fucking time, every time....now the media SHOULDN'T be choosing sides, but they did, they have, and they're paying the price....do some real reporting and maybe folks will come back, but the partisan shit, that's going to have a reaction and you're seeing it play out right now before your very eyes.
When is a journalist with some balls going to ask Donald Trump "What about Q Mr. President?"
Wouldn't that end the entire thing @Kirkland Laing ?
Put politics aside and pretty sure getting shot out of the sky counts. The man stood there and opined that one side of Congress had to be 'treasonous' because he got his feelings hurt that they didn't applaud for him :-X. Believe it or not...many democrats AND republicans fill those halls and some left limbs and youth on the battlefield. Is there nothing that unifies anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Yes being a vet I can go to a private dr now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPut politics aside and pretty sure getting shot out of the sky counts. The man stood there and opined that one side of Congress had to be 'treasonous' because he got his feelings hurt that they didn't applaud for him :-X. Believe it or not...many democrats AND republicans fill those halls and some left limbs and youth on the battlefield. Is there nothing that unifies anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Still waiting on my 1k and full 'repeal' ;D. Seriously though, thank you for what you've given. People should be able to go to any Dr they want and not be tied up in red tape and bureaucratic crapQuote:
Originally Posted by walrusYes being a vet I can go to a private dr now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPut politics aside and pretty sure getting shot out of the sky counts. The man stood there and opined that one side of Congress had to be 'treasonous' because he got his feelings hurt that they didn't applaud for him :-X. Believe it or not...many democrats AND republicans fill those halls and some left limbs and youth on the battlefield. Is there nothing that unifies anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
John McCain, who I did indeed vote for when he ran for President....he's worn out his welcome with me as a politician. Too many lies, too many undelivered promises, too many outright lies....what did McCain accomplish as a politician? He's tough on the border during election season and what else?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPut politics aside and pretty sure getting shot out of the sky counts. The man stood there and opined that one side of Congress had to be 'treasonous' because he got his feelings hurt that they didn't applaud for him :-X. Believe it or not...many democrats AND republicans fill those halls and some left limbs and youth on the battlefield. Is there nothing that unifies anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
BOOM! Trump Approval at 50% — 5 POINTS HIGHER THAN OBAMA at Same Point in His Presidency
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...is-presidency/
Despite the continued media anti-Trump hysterics over the past several months including the meltdown after President Trump said kind words to Vlad Putin — the US president’s approval rating continues to rise.
President Trump’s approval rating is currently at 50% on Rasmussen Reports.
Media darling Barack Obama had an approval rating of 45% on August 2, 2010.
President Trump is now 5 points ahead of Barack Obama at a similar point in his presidency.
And this is while 90% of network media coverage has been negative of President Trump.
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They weren't told that Hillary had funded the dossier because it wasn't accurate and didn't matter anyway. They were told the dossier was funded by people looking to damage Trump's candidacy and also told that every point in the five sentences of evidence the FBI took from the dossier and put in the warrant application had been corroborated by the FBI from other sources! The reason saying Hillary funded the dossier wasn't accurate is that the dossier was originally funded by a Republican billionaire called Paul Singer who owns a couple of conservative media things, the Dailly Caller I think is one. Singer didn't want Trump to get the GOP nomination but by the summer had realised it was going to happen and stopped paying Fusion. Fusion shopped the dossier round to other parties and Hillary's campaign stepped in or at least lawyers representing them did. But by then Steele had already written nearly the whole thing -- the dossier is just a collection of about twenty memos and he'd already produced almost all of them when the funding changed hands. The crucial stuff about Trump being helped by Moscow and working with the Russians was the first stuff Steele found out, the rest was just additions to the main story. The whole time Steele was collecting the info he never knew who he was working for. The "Russia expert" Fusion were paying was an actual Russian expert and was a way for Steele to try to get the message out to the Americans about Trump's treachery when he thought the FBI and the intelligence people were in the tank for the GOP and ignoring the whole thing. You can read the entire story here although this is more reading that you do in a month:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-trump-dossier
I do think those warrant renewals were fine. That's because this guy had been the subject of a FISA warrant back in 2012 and so they'd found probable cause long before Trump was running for office. They also had to be renewed by a panel of four judges, all of whom were Republican appointed judges. If there hadn't been evidence to renew them then they wouldn't have been renewed, unless of course the entire FISA court is part of the deep state too. And once against the guy the warrant was for had left the Trump campaign a couple of months before they first applied for the warrant. Why not wiretap somebody on the campaign if you were trying to surveill the Trump campaign? Why even go to the bother of applying for a warrant if you're the all powerful deep state?
Ah, now we're getting somewhere. I'm "worried about what you think" because you're believing this complete fucking lunatic conspiracy theory which unfortunately for you will be proved beyond doubt to be completely nuts. Until this happy day there'll be a bunch of events that make it less and less likely and when these events happen you will double, triple, quadruple etc down on the whole thing and it'll be spectacular when it all blows up in your face.
And finally you come out with what you actually believe about this. I need to bookmark this post.
So it's basically Trump and people who work for him "getting his message out" because somehow it wouldn't get out through the hated mainstream media. I mean it's not like he can call a press conference and be on every TV channel and he can't declassify any document he wants and hand them all out to the press. It's not like he has a press office that can put everything out (three press short press briefings in the last month where every other prez had one a day) or a website with a bunch of staff who can publish everything directly onto the internet, or a twitter account that the media report on daily or anything like that. Obviously the way he's going to choose to tell the world the real story is by posting a bunch of cryptic posts on an anime porn messageboard, you fucking nutcase.
Mainstream media can't wait to cover all this lunacy. Yesterday the Post and the Times both had stories about it. I'm sure it's all over the cable networks. A bunch of mockable crazy fuckers is perfect tv fodder for them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/u...-is-qanon.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.b69d463249bb
It's Rasmussen, the polling arm of the GOP. Elsewhere he's at historic lows despite inheriting an economy he was calling the best ever within two months of taking office. And Obama took office at a point when the economy was losing a million jobs a month and the biggest fall in GDP since the Depression and quickly was given the blame for that when the previous eight years fell off the electorates' little shelf.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
He's off to a rally in Ohio soon to try and hold a district he won by twelve points in 2016 and now could flip. The GOP lost a special election a hundred and odd miles away last year in a district Trump won by twenty points in 2016.
It's only going to get worse too. Twenty years from now seventy percent of Americans will live in big cities and be represented by thirty percent of national politicians. Thirty percent of almost all white, mainly rural people will be represented by seventy percent of national elected officials. Look what the GOP are doing now with corporate lawyers on the Supreme Court, tax cuts for the top one percent by executive fiat and blocking any attempts to spend money to improve election/voting security. This is not a recipe for bipartisan comity. When the people funding the GOP can't win anymore by democratic means they're going to give up on democracy. I'm going to hate to be right about this but you just watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPut politics aside and pretty sure getting shot out of the sky counts. The man stood there and opined that one side of Congress had to be 'treasonous' because he got his feelings hurt that they didn't applaud for him :-X. Believe it or not...many democrats AND republicans fill those halls and some left limbs and youth on the battlefield. Is there nothing that unifies anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat combat veterans in elected office? McCain???Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusDamn we can’t even say it was a nice thing that was little reported on. Trump can do no right I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Oh for fucks sakes....Kirkland whatever YOU say man I am not attempting to convert you to my side at all...read your press, pay no attention to Rasmussen, I don't care anymore.
Yeah mock the idea that Trump is circumventing the media I mean it's not like they hammer him regardless of what he does all day every day 24/7/365
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Yup, fair fair fair all across the board :shakehead:
Pay attention to Q don't pay attention to Q, I don't care
OH NO the country isn't going to be under the boot of the city folk anymore?!?!?!?! Why whatever will we do??? Oh heavens, mercy me.
The New Yorker? The New York Times?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D00M2KZH1J0
Fox news love Trump.
And everyone else ABHORS him....regardless of what he does, good, bad, indifferent...which really comes back to hurt the media when they want to be taken seriously and it also hurts them when they cry about people "saying mean things" :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: ....the people wouldn't attack the MSM if they didn't know the game is rigged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You want non-Democrats to blindfold themselves to the truth and pretend we live in a world where reporters are fair and honest? That's shockingly naive!
The Media is 100% on the side of the Left it's undeniable
If Fox news in with Trump then it could not be 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAnd everyone else ABHORS him....regardless of what he does, good, bad, indifferent...which really comes back to hurt the media when they want to be taken seriously and it also hurts them when they cry about people "saying mean things" :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: ....the people wouldn't attack the MSM if they didn't know the game is rigged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You want non-Democrats to blindfold themselves to the truth and pretend we live in a world where reporters are fair and honest? That's shockingly naive!
The Media is 100% on the side of the Left it's undeniable
99% then...feel better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I think it it is far less than that and many are independent and neutral.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong99% then...feel better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Master I don’t think u ever watch Fox News so how would you know, just cause others say it. They criticize him on several things that happenQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think it it is far less than that and many are independent and neutral.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong99% then...feel better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
From the clips that are put on here they love Trump and do not pretend about it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusMaster I don’t think u ever watch Fox News so how would you know, just cause others say it. They criticize him on several things that happenQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think it it is far less than that and many are independent and neutral.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong99% then...feel better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Is it not a weird coincidence that Trump is wittering on about the 'disgusting Fake news' telling everyone how he was late to see the Queen and tried to trip her up (Which was weeks ago now) in a week in which his mates have been boasting about colluding with Russia?
I really don't get this obsession with Russia. Didn't Obama tell Brits to stay in the EU? People meddle all the time. The reality is Sanders would be President had the Democrats not been so corrupt. Let it go, move on, and build up a new alternative to Trump if that is what is wanted. Seeing Trump bashed like he is over things that seem kind of silly makes me want to see him endure. Obama didn't get any of this stick. Except from WWE man.
Kirkland just unbuckled his pants pull them down around his ankles and squatted his fat pink old ass above the toilet bowl and ripped out several dozen really hard and tightly packed pieces of feces because he does not eat enough vegetablesQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingAnother fantastic contribution from the forum's resident window licker.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Details Surface About Chinese Spy Who Worked For Sen. Feinstein
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...YMGo_U.twitter
SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) – New details emerged Wednesday about how a mole for the government of communist China managed to stay by Senator Dianne Feinstein’s side for nearly 20 years.
But muh Russia collusion?!?!?!
So it can happen. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
To a Democrat Senator...yes, yes it can...and for 20 years and then when it's uncovered it's just all "OH that thing? Yeah yeah we totally I mean....it's fixed, we're sure, no problems, no worries, we're good"Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSo it can happen. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
US counter-intelligence investigators discovered a suspected Russian spy had been working undetected in the heart of the American embassy in Moscow for more than a decade, the Guardian has learned.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongTo a Democrat Senator...yes, yes it can...and for 20 years and then when it's uncovered it's just all "OH that thing? Yeah yeah we totally I mean....it's fixed, we're sure, no problems, no worries, we're good"Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSo it can happen. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The Russian national had been hired by the US Secret Service and is understood to have had access to the agency’s intranet and email systems, which gave her a potential window into highly confidential material including the schedules of the president and vice-president.
[...]
The Guardian has been told the RSO sounded the alarm in January 2017, but the Secret Service did not launch a full-scale inquiry of its own. Instead it decided to let her go quietly months later, possibly to contain any potential embarrassment.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...secret-service
That was yesterday. That didn't make a splash in the American media either. Spies get discovered on a regular basis Lyle. What's unusual in the Trump case is that Americans generally don't work with the spies to further the aims of a hostile foreign nation. Of course Feinstein might have been colluding with this Chinese spy somehow. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before some nut on the internet claims she did and you're off down another rabbit hole.
Is Feinstein one of the Democrats wearing an ankle monitor by the way? Maybe Trump and Mueller already have the evidence against her and it's just a matter of time till she's off to Guantanamo?
There are actual straight newspeople at Fox reporting the facts. It's just they're on at low viewing times. The people in primetime are all a bunch of propagandists. It's entertainment TV, not news. A bunch of guys who don't even claim to be journalists spouting outright lies to a bunch of morons yelling back at their tellies. It's all just made up crazy stuff designed to rouse the rabble. Here is the difference between the truth and the crazy at Fox all in a nutshell:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrom the clips that are put on here they love Trump and do not pretend about it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusMaster I don’t think u ever watch Fox News so how would you know, just cause others say it. They criticize him on several things that happenQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think it it is far less than that and many are independent and neutral.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong99% then...feel better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
https://twitter.com/LeanneNaramore/s...62955992469505
Yeah listen to Media Matters for America...they're a NEWS source, they AREN'T biased ;)
Yeah, I mean of course, everything you say is 100% right Kirkland....don't even know why I try oh and boy let me tell you how horrible the economy me is right now, gee it is like Venezuela here people are eating dog food and when that runs out they'll eat the dogs I'm sure. And you're certainly not putting words in my mouth because I totally said all of that about Feinstein as did Q, I mean it's like you read my mindQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Media Matters For America.....YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!! So you watch videos now do you Kirk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
OK here's Shep's horseshit rebutted
1. "And now indictments against Russian organizations and persons have been handed up"....and both Mueller and Rosenstein have said 0 Americans are involved in election meddling AND that Donald Trump isn't a criminal target of their probes.
2. "While the US criminal code does NOT criminalize colluding per say, it IS a crime to conspire with a foreign adversary to influence or undermine our election or any other government action"....0 votes changed, election results unchanged, where's the beef? Indictments of Russians yes yes aaaand? Oh a couple Americans got nabbed for unrelated issues like Gen. Flynn who was hounded by the feds until he had to file bankruptcy so then he pleaded guilty to something he didn't do and has now been released.
3. "The FBI did not place a spy in the Trump campaign" ...ok then even if a spy/plant hadn't be placed in the Trump campaign is everythign still on the up and up? I don't think so and for many reasons A#1 is Peter Stzrok and his texts, 100% absolutely biased.
4. "Fox News at this time knows of no evidence that the now President was surveilled at any time in any way fullstop".....Sooooo why the need for FISA warrants if no surveillance???
5. "they're attacking the troops they're attacking the flag, none of which they're doing, they're not doing any of that, they're upset about racial injustice in the country and what the President has said".....If you're not respecting the National Anthem and the flag (some of the few things which bind us together as citizens of the same nation) then yeah you ARE disrespecting the troops and the flag and there are a plethora of different ways to show how upset you are about racial injustice which don't involve taking a knee during the Anthem...FACT
6. "Waterboarding is torture and is not permitted under Army field manual guidelines, torture is illegal under international law...." Yes waterboarding IS torture and no during a time of war you're not always going to be able to keep your hands clean especially when you're dealing with an enemy who doesn't follow ANY of the rules of war which we signed up for under the Geneva Convention...if the enemy doesn't play by the rules don't expect us to.
7. "Dozens of United States government scientists on climate change, they conclude climate change is real and driven almost exclusively by human activity"....if emissions are such an important and horrible thing then why are we making wind turbines which because of how they are manufactured cause a lot more emissions than say nuclear power.
8. "Trump has said the Obama Administration spied on his campaign with an informant"....and then he goes on to say "both sides say using an informant to investigate suspected ties to Russia is not spying"....so there WAS an informant as admitted by Shep himself, I'm shocked they didn't edit that part out actually.
9. "Nothing to support Mueller meddling in the midterms"....ok :dontknow: sometimes Trump says things to get the ball rolling or get something on the mind of the people. I do know to not always take Trump seriously. Art of the deal, sometimes it's that.
10. "Complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization" in North Korea....yeah that's what we want, to Lil Kim's credit there have been 0 missiles fired/tested by him since before the summit I'd call that progress. It's more than anyone else has gotten.
11. "He wanted the military exercises with South Korea to stop"....yes AND? It's not like we still couldn't hit Best Korea and demolish it altogether in a matter of minutes. The drills are a show of force are they not? Well we've shown them for 50 years, they know already.
12. Uranium One....Hillary couldn't have pulled off that deal by her lonesome no of course not, but it's not like she can't finagle a deal with power players in DC and elsewhere and let's be honest she got paid, Bill Clinton got paid, and hell I'm sure others got paid too...the Podesta's made a pretty penny on that deal as well. Shep Smith said 'Hillary Clinton did NOT approve the sale to Uranium One' ....those are word games played for plausible deniability. Clinton had influence in the White House AND the Clinton Foundation got paid big time...circumstantial evidence sure, but it doesn't have to be anything else to get a bad feeling about it.
Master is the kind of person who never would sit through 30 minutes of an Alex Jones Show for 30 minutes of a Hannity presentation and yet wants to say that Alex Jones and Hannity are full of crap based on the clips that they show in the United Kingdom. It never crossed his mind that they choose clips that intentionally make these people look like idiots and they edit clips. I have never seen somebody drink so much Kool-Aid in my life as master
I don't think that is true. You can watch them completely unedited that is the nature of Infowars and their poorly researched low rent bargain basement conjecture based made up TV studio in a bedroom type shows. :-X ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I watched and read acres of that stuff as a far left crusty surrounded by conspiracy theorists for many, many years. I can remember how much conservatives across the world on the right would mock such things and yet now, many seem to think that Alex and PJW etc do not have their own very obvious and biased agenda. Infowars, Brietbart etc are not the alternative anything, they are multi million pound dollar mainstream outlets with scripts from the 1%ers and the deep state itself. Pocketing the production and research budget and using some spotty teenager to present shows to save a few bob does not add to the veracity of what they are saying.
Two sides of the same coin. Notice how Alex refuses to say that anymore now that Trump has stroked his ego? He supports Zionist expansionism and PJW has probably left his bedroom once in the last two years. It is there as a sedative. Smoke and Mirrors to present a dissenting voice pretending to be in opposition to the Deep State that is using it to stop people questioning when all other news outlets are shut down.
I have to say that although I have understood every sentence there that you have written and also the reasoning behind each I have to say that I have scrutinized the show for almost 9 years now I have watched it through all kinds of filters. I have watched it through the filter of Perhaps it is a reverse psychological operation by the CIA itself I have also watched it through the filter of Perhaps it is deliberately being broadcast by the left in order to make the far right look insane. I have also watched it through the filter that this is just a regular guy who cares about his country. for 9 years I have been scrutinizing this show I probably watch the show once a week sometimes as many as twice or three times a week during especially active news Cycles. Removing all the crazy stuff about reptilian overlords and stuff which of course is just hyperbolic fantasy Etc and removing all the melodrama, I have seen more than quite a few rather stunning and stunningly accurate and insightful shows that Alex has done. I don't see how he could be helping out the Deep state in any way. to constantly rail against the globalists and the global banking system doesn't seem to be helping out the Deep State at all. To be pointing out that he is a political atheist and that he thinks that the left and the right are two sides of the same coin doesn't also seem to be helping out the Deep state. No matter how I slice it I cannot get the angle that you have written above. I believe you have watched countless hours as you say and let's just chalk this up to completely polar opposite interpretations of the message of the Alex Jones Show and of Paul Joseph Watson.
The only part that I don't like about either one of them is how they sort of constantly promote Christianity. There's where I no longer pay attention or TuneIn.
He does not belive they are both sides of the same coin anymore. Because he is now working for the winning coin. He is so in Trumps pocket. And Trump is not so different as many belive.