Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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Since people are talking about Pacquaio being better than Mayweather do you guys actually think if they were the same size that Pacquaio would stand a chance? Despite weighing more Mayweather is still much faster, is able to keep a guy naturally 190 pounds off of him, and he has the best technique in over a decade if not ever. I am confused how a guy as open as open defensively as Pacquaio would present any sort of trouble for PBF. Do you incorporate excitement, and enjoyment factors into the equation? Because I don't see what all the hype is about... Pacquaio is good, but he has far too many holes to be number 1 or 2 p4p.
No i think Mayweather would win.....but it's the stoppage wins over Barrera and Morales that put him up there. Barrera and Morales are probably bigger wins than any of Mayweathers.
I would agree with the Barrera one, but I don't think the Morrales fights were that big because Morrales had already lost convincingly before they fought the second fight against a good boxer in Raheem, but it showed he was past his prime, and he fough tPacquaio at too low a weight.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Since people are talking about Pacquaio being better than Mayweather do you guys actually think if they were the same size that Pacquaio would stand a chance? Despite weighing more Mayweather is still much faster, is able to keep a guy naturally 190 pounds off of him, and he has the best technique in over a decade if not ever. I am confused how a guy as open as open defensively as Pacquaio would present any sort of trouble for PBF. Do you incorporate excitement, and enjoyment factors into the equation? Because I don't see what all the hype is about... Pacquaio is good, but he has far too many holes to be number 1 or 2 p4p.
No i think Mayweather would win.....but it's the stoppage wins over Barrera and Morales that put him up there. Barrera and Morales are probably bigger wins than any of Mayweathers.
I would agree with the Barrera one, but I don't think the Morrales fights were that big because Morrales had already lost convincingly before they fought the second fight against a good boxer in Raheem, but it showed he was past his prime, and he fough tPacquaio at too low a weight.
Yeh i suppose but even then i think a stoppage over a slightly past it Morales is stil better than any of Mayweathers wins. Even though Raheem beat him earlier, he outboxed him. Pure boxing isn't Morales' game. Pacman out fought Morales...and that is Morales' game.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
mr roach said after pac man kocks out odlh they will go after pbf
imo odlh will kill pac man, pac man hasn't even faught at 140 but he's going up to 147 bad idea secound watch pac mans last fight i forgot the guys name but with pac mans punching power at 135 it took him 9 rounds to ko a guy that he was hittin with every punch in the book.
the only way we will see pbf vs pac man is if pac man can beat odlh and if he does that maybe pbf will come back if the price is right.... i say floyd beats pac mans ass inside outside its no contest
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
NO....His style is tailor made for Floyd
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
Don't regard what I said in here, it was several years ago. I still think Floyd was truly better p4p, but I think Pacquaio is a lot better then I indicated in here, I was just making the point that opponents don't make you a better fighter than you are. I also think Pacquaio didn't tailor made for Floyd, he is very fast(close to Floyd's speed at least now), he is southpaw which has always given Floyd problems, and his best punch is the left cross which is the only punch that has ever landed with regularity against Mayweather. Obviously I think Floyd wins but because of his defensive mindset I don't see him countering like Marquez did, or at least not if Pacquaio carries his power whatsoever to welterweight.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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NO....His style is tailor made for Floyd
yea i agree. but he is fast and throws alot of punches even though he might miss MOST of them the judges might still give manny the rounds. but i see PBF countering the hell outta him all night long maybe even ko manny.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
i would say mayweather would win by UD it would be a good fight though ;)
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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NO....His style is tailor made for Floyd
yea i agree. but he is fast and throws alot of punches even though he might miss MOST of them the judges might still give manny the rounds. but i see PBF countering the hell outta him all night long maybe even ko manny.
People also tend to forget that just because Manny throws a lot of punches and is fast he has one other weakness..
Pacquiao is not superhuman.....He does not have a grinite chin....That has been proven in more then one occassion....2 of his 3 losses have been ny KO...He has tasted canvas quite a few times....he went down in the first Marquez fight what 4 times I think....Marquez is not a starong as Floyd.....If Floyd can absorb DLH punches and he can absorb Pacquiaos....
Ask Hatton if Floyd can punch a bit...ask him how easy Floyd is to hit.....Ask Judah, Corley, Castillo and Augustas all fast or hard hitters that
seem to have the recipe at first to deal with Floyd....
The man is in a different league....he beats guys with no effort....he makes sport of it....
I can't believe I am hyping PBF :-\
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DaxxKahn
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kingfrnk
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DaxxKahn
NO....His style is tailor made for Floyd
yea i agree. but he is fast and throws alot of punches even though he might miss MOST of them the judges might still give manny the rounds. but i see PBF countering the hell outta him all night long maybe even ko manny.
People also tend to forget that just because Manny throws a lot of punches and is fast he has one other weakness..
Pacquiao is not superhuman.....He does not have a grinite chin....That has been proven in more then one occassion....2 of his 3 losses have been ny KO...He has tasted canvas quite a few times....he went down in the first Marquez fight what 4 times I think....Marquez is not a starong as Floyd.....If Floyd can absorb DLH punches and he can absorb Pacquiaos....
Ask Hatton if Floyd can punch a bit...ask him how easy Floyd is to hit.....Ask Judah, Corley, Castillo and Augustas all fast or hard hitters that
seem to have the recipe at first to deal with Floyd....
The man is in a different league....he beats guys with no effort....he makes sport of it....
I can't believe I am hyping PBF :-\
I have watched Castillo-Mayweather about 20 times and I still think Castillo won it. He got Floyd to the body a lot in that fight.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by
kingfrnk
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
NO....His style is tailor made for Floyd
yea i agree. but he is fast and throws alot of punches even though he might miss MOST of them the judges might still give manny the rounds. but i see PBF countering the hell outta him all night long maybe even ko manny.
People also tend to forget that just because Manny throws a lot of punches and is fast he has one other weakness..
Pacquiao is not superhuman.....He does not have a grinite chin....That has been proven in more then one occassion....2 of his 3 losses have been ny KO...He has tasted canvas quite a few times....he went down in the first Marquez fight what 4 times I think....Marquez is not a starong as Floyd.....If Floyd can absorb DLH punches and he can absorb Pacquiaos....
Ask Hatton if Floyd can punch a bit...ask him how easy Floyd is to hit.....Ask Judah, Corley, Castillo and Augustas all fast or hard hitters that
seem to have the recipe at first to deal with Floyd....
The man is in a different league....he beats guys with no effort....he makes sport of it....
I can't believe I am hyping PBF :-\
Which reminds me I'd actually like to see Hatton and PAc at a catch seeing they are all playing the weight game.
:D I'd also like to see two monster trucks in a head on.
Mayweather would stay too cool and be able to move with Manny like a dance partner, hitting him up the openings left everytime Pac is overcommitted to a move.
I can't believe I am hyping PBF :-\ "Ditto."
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Oh and Judah tagged him plenty for 4 rounds but we all know he goes downhill from the first few rounds.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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Oh and Judah tagged him plenty for 4 rounds but we all know he goes downhill from the first few rounds.
Zab Judah would tag anyone he has some of the quickest hands i've ever seen, but he still does get overrated on how well he actually was doing in the Floyd Mayweather fight. He only won 3 out of the first 4 rounds then Floyd Mayweather figured out Zab Judah, and gave him a pasting for the rest of the fight. As for Jose Luis Castillo vs Floyd Mayweather 1 Floyd Mayweather had an injured shoulder, so he wasn't 100 percent in the fight.
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Kel
Oh and Judah tagged him plenty for 4 rounds but we all know he goes downhill from the first few rounds.
Zab Judah would tag anyone he has some of the quickest hands i've ever seen, but he still does get overrated on how well he actually was doing in the Floyd Mayweather fight. He only won 3 out of the first 4 rounds then Floyd Mayweather figured out Zab Judah, and gave him a pasting for the rest of the fight. As for Jose Luis Castillo vs Floyd Mayweather 1 Floyd Mayweather had an injured shoulder, so he wasn't 100 percent in the fight.
I know how Zab did I watched the fight plenty of times, but he did show that he could hit Floyd whenever he felt while his mind was switched on.
Floyd still lost the Castillo fight though, injured or not, Castillo still won and the scores were bullshit. I think Castillo fought his fucking heart out that night and got robbed of everything he fought for, the cards were pure wank.
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
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DaxxKahn
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kingfrnk
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Originally Posted by
DaxxKahn
NO....His style is tailor made for Floyd
yea i agree. but he is fast and throws alot of punches even though he might miss MOST of them the judges might still give manny the rounds. but i see PBF countering the hell outta him all night long maybe even ko manny.
People also tend to forget that just because Manny throws a lot of punches and is fast he has one other weakness..
Pacquiao is not superhuman.....He does not have a grinite chin....That has been proven in more then one occassion....2 of his 3 losses have been ny KO...He has tasted canvas quite a few times....
he went down in the first Marquez fight what 4 times I think....Marquez is not a starong as Floyd.....If Floyd can absorb DLH punches and he can absorb Pacquiaos....
Ask Hatton if Floyd can punch a bit...ask him how easy Floyd is to hit.....Ask Judah, Corley, Castillo and Augustas all fast or hard hitters that
seem to have the recipe at first to deal with Floyd....
The man is in a different league....he beats guys with no effort....he makes sport of it....
I can't believe I am hyping PBF :-\
I agree that mayweather is much better and would maybe stop manny. But when did pac go down 4 times against marquez?
Re: Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?
No way can Pac beat Floyd Mayweather.