Does anyone here actually think Pacquaio would beat Mayweather Jr. p4p?

[Taeth]

Since people are talking about Pacquaio being better than Mayweather do you guys actually think if they were the same size that Pacquaio would stand a chance? Despite weighing more Mayweather is still much faster, is able to keep a guy naturally 190 pounds off of him, and he has the best technique in over a decade if not ever. I am confused how a guy as open as open defensively as Pacquaio would present any sort of trouble for PBF. Do you incorporate excitement, and enjoyment factors into the equation? Because I don't see what all the hype is about... Pacquaio is good, but he has far too many holes to be number 1 or 2 p4p.

[p4pking]

No. And for what its worth, Pac weighed in at 144 on fight night against Morales. That's probably only a few pounds lighter than Floyd on fight night.

[Kev]

I agree Mayweather would probably beat Pacman p4p.

[babyboNe]

this goes both ways on both pac and pbf hasn't face anyone one like eachother, pac hasn't face anyone like pbf and pbf hasn't face anyone like pac...

pac has never been against some one quick and slick like pbf, and pbf hasn't been in with a punching machine like pac. pbf whoop chico who had power but chico just stood there and got punish, for sure pac isn't gonna stand around his gonna pressure pbf. and pbf's chin hasn't been tested. its clear pac has been in with better oppenents and he has manage to reach top p4p, while pbf has had fights against slow stand still fighters.

we can talk about how superior pbf is but he hasn't been in with a great fighter. so how great is he really is, REMEMBER YOUR REALLY ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR OPPENENT.

people can say how easily pac can get hit, but does pbf hit as hard as mab jmm or em? how people can talk about how easy pac gets hit then why hasn't he been stop in his prime or coming to prime pacman. PRIME PACMAN HAS A IRON CHIN.

pbf can win by staying away and jabbing but i think eventually he'll be force to war. which pac does best.

we won't know the actual winner until they actually really fight. which is likely never to happen.

[Kev]

this goes both ways on both pac and pbf hasn't face anyone one like eachother, pac hasn't face anyone like pbf and pbf hasn't face anyone like pac...

pac has never been against some one quick and slick like pbf, and pbf hasn't been in with a punching machine like pac. pbf whoop chico who had power but chico just stood there and got punish, for sure pac isn't gonna stand around his gonna pressure pbf. and pbf's chin hasn't been tested. its clear pac has been in with better oppenents and he has manage to reach top p4p, while pbf has had fights against slow stand still fighters.

we can talk about how superior pbf is but he hasn't been in with a great fighter. so how great is he really is, REMEMBER YOUR REALLY ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR OPPENENT.

people can say how easily pac can get hit, but does pbf hit as hard as mab jmm or em? how people can talk about how easy pac gets hit then why hasn't he been stop in his prime or coming to prime pacman. PRIME PACMAN HAS A IRON CHIN.

pbf can win by staying away and jabbing but i think eventually he'll be force to war. which pac does best.

we won't know the actual winner until they actually really fight. which is likely never to happen.

No offense but if Floyd had stayed at 130 lb he would be a monster puncher now. We think of him as not having power only because he fights 3 divisions above his natural weight.

Pacquaio has moved up several divisions too but at the low weights he didn't have the power or durability he has now.

I'd say if Mayweather had stayed as a super featherweight he would have cleaned up beating Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao and Marquez if he moved up

[SweetPea]

If they fought at 130, I think Floyd would win rather easily. Way, way too much speed. And much better technically as well.

[halo]

Mayweather may give a neat boxing lesson and really, that is the only way he can beat Manny P. However, if he goes toe to toe with Pacman, he may be in for a rude awakening.

Therefore, it will be a chess match. Who can dictate the fight to his liking will win. If Floyd can stay away from Manny's power by jabbing and doing combinations and then slickly moving away, he will probably get a decision. If he stays and fights like a prime Morales or pre-baldomir Barrera, there could be a slight chance that Floyd will still win but my bet will be on Pacman.

The fight between ODLH and Mayweather will be the closest to the possible outcome of this dream match. Not so much that the fighting style of OLDH is similar to Manny's. Far from it. BUT it has been said by Freddie Roach that OLDH strategy will be to cut the ring and force Mayweather to fight. We will then see the mettle and the chin of Mayweather if he can dictate the fight in his terms or be forced to fight it out with OLDH.

[p4pking]

Mayweather may give a neat boxing lesson and really, that is the only way he can beat Manny P. However, if he goes toe to toe with Pacman, he may be in for a rude awakening.

Therefore, it will be a chess match. Who can dictate the fight to his liking will win. If Floyd can stay away from Manny's power by jabbing and doing combinations and then slickly moving away, he will probably get a decision. If he stays and fights like a prime Morales or pre-baldomir Barrera, there could be a slight chance that Floyd will still win but my bet will be on Pacman.

The fight between ODLH and Mayweather will be the closest to the possible outcome of this dream match. Not so much that the fighting style of OLDH is similar to Manny's. Far from it. BUT it has been said by Freddie Roach that OLDH strategy will be to cut the ring and force Mayweather to fight. We will then see the mettle and the chin of Mayweather if he can dictate the fight in his terms or be forced to fight it out with OLDH.

Yes, if Floyd can't beat Oscar there's no way he could beat Pac. Great comparison, it will really tell us so much how Floyd would do against Pac when he fights a jr.middleweight with KO power...

[SweetPea]

BUT it has been said by Freddie Roach that OLDH strategy will be to cut the ring and force Mayweather to fight.

This will be Floyd's 38th fight, and I'm guessing that this is the 38th time that his opponent's trainer has said they're going to cut off the ring, wear him down to body and make him fight.

[Taeth]

The thing people forget is that Mayweather can stand toe to toe... If you want a relentless puncher look at Philip Ndou, of course he doesn't have the skill of Pacquaio, but he hit harder(not p4p), and he had just as high or higher a work rate. Mayweather destroyed him in the pocket. Pacquaio isn't a relentless fighter anymore... He does come forward all alot, but not always throw punches, and that makes openings for the fastest fighter on the planet. Mayweather can fight on the inside, or on the outside, he can take a punch, he has a terific jab, hook, cross, uppercut, and the best stamina in the business. Some might say that he doesn't have the power, but he kept Baldomir far more honest than any of us expected with his power, and he kept Gatti honest, and even Castillo in their second fight. Castillo is another relentless guy who comes forward, and he has a better chin than Pacquaio by far along with good head movement, and the first fight Mayweather had broken ribs and a torn rotator cuff and he still won the fight. I am not saying Pacquaio is good, but I see him getting a complete beat down by Mayweather, Whitaker, Judah, super featherweight ODLH, Mosley, Duran, maybe even Corrales, and definitely Casamayor. So to compare him to Mayweather p4p is absurd to me.

[halo]

The thing people forget is that Mayweather can stand toe to toe... If you want a relentless puncher look at Philip Ndou, of course he doesn't have the skill of Pacquaio, but he hit harder(not p4p), and he had just as high or higher a work rate. Mayweather destroyed him in the pocket. Pacquaio isn't a relentless fighter anymore... He does come forward all alot, but not always throw punches, and that makes openings for the fastest fighter on the planet. Mayweather can fight on the inside, or on the outside, he can take a punch, he has a terific jab, hook, cross, uppercut, and the best stamina in the business. Some might say that he doesn't have the power, but he kept Baldomir far more honest than any of us expected with his power, and he kept Gatti honest, and even Castillo in their second fight. Castillo is another relentless guy who comes forward, and he has a better chin than Pacquaio by far along with good head movement, and the first fight Mayweather had broken ribs and a torn rotator cuff and he still won the fight. I am not saying Pacquaio is good, but I see him getting a complete beat down by Mayweather, Whitaker, Judah, super featherweight ODLH, Mosley, Duran, maybe even Corrales, and definitely Casamayor. So to compare him to Mayweather p4p is absurd to me.

Good analysis. Still I reserve my judgement after the ODLH fight. By the way, I think he lost the first fight with Castillo IMO. Did you mean the second which in my opinion he convincingly won?

[jbirdy]

a close one i reckon. i think pac man is aweome and think he might be a bit much for anyone if he's on top form. pac man has got so many angles and such an awesome workrate and i think if he is on his A game he could be anyones worse nightmare.

[Taeth]

The thing people forget is that Mayweather can stand toe to toe... If you want a relentless puncher look at Philip Ndou, of course he doesn't have the skill of Pacquaio, but he hit harder(not p4p), and he had just as high or higher a work rate. Mayweather destroyed him in the pocket. Pacquaio isn't a relentless fighter anymore... He does come forward all alot, but not always throw punches, and that makes openings for the fastest fighter on the planet. Mayweather can fight on the inside, or on the outside, he can take a punch, he has a terific jab, hook, cross, uppercut, and the best stamina in the business. Some might say that he doesn't have the power, but he kept Baldomir far more honest than any of us expected with his power, and he kept Gatti honest, and even Castillo in their second fight. Castillo is another relentless guy who comes forward, and he has a better chin than Pacquaio by far along with good head movement, and the first fight Mayweather had broken ribs and a torn rotator cuff and he still won the fight. I am not saying Pacquaio is good, but I see him getting a complete beat down by Mayweather, Whitaker, Judah, super featherweight ODLH, Mosley, Duran, maybe even Corrales, and definitely Casamayor. So to compare him to Mayweather p4p is absurd to me.

Good analysis. Still I reserve my judgement after the ODLH fight. By the way, I think he lost the first fight with Castillo IMO. Did you mean the second which in my opinion he convincingly won?

Yeah I believe he won the second won convincingly, and I thought he won the first one simply because he was landing way harder, and cleaner shots... Castillo landed more shots but most of them were while the two were tied up or the occasional right hand getting through. Two other fighters I didn't mention that Mayweather fought are Jesus Chavez, and Emanuel Burton. He also fought Henry Bruseles(yawn), and more impressively Demarcus Corley in close. My point is that Mayweather is a far more rounded fighter than Pacquaio, and a better athlete with a better chin.

[killersheep]

PBF would destroy PAC at 135 or 130

PBF was very strong at those weights, combine that with his defensive skill, 5" reach advantage and speed advantage, PAC wouldn't be able to get anything off at all.

[zhubin]

The thing people forget is that Mayweather can stand toe to toe... If you want a relentless puncher look at Philip Ndou, of course he doesn't have the skill of Pacquaio, but he hit harder(not p4p), and he had just as high or higher a work rate. Mayweather destroyed him in the pocket. Pacquaio isn't a relentless fighter anymore... He does come forward all alot, but not always throw punches, and that makes openings for the fastest fighter on the planet. Mayweather can fight on the inside, or on the outside, he can take a punch, he has a terific jab, hook, cross, uppercut, and the best stamina in the business. Some might say that he doesn't have the power, but he kept Baldomir far more honest than any of us expected with his power, and he kept Gatti honest, and even Castillo in their second fight. Castillo is another relentless guy who comes forward, and he has a better chin than Pacquaio by far along with good head movement, and the first fight Mayweather had broken ribs and a torn rotator cuff and he still won the fight. I am not saying Pacquaio is good, but I see him getting a complete beat down by Mayweather, Whitaker, Judah, super featherweight ODLH, Mosley, Duran, maybe even Corrales, and definitely Casamayor. So to compare him to Mayweather p4p is absurd to me.

Good analysis. Still I reserve my judgement after the ODLH fight. By the way, I think he lost the first fight with Castillo IMO. Did you mean the second which in my opinion he convincingly won?

Yeah I believe he won the second won convincingly, and I thought he won the first one simply because he was landing way harder, and cleaner shots... Castillo landed more shots but most of them were while the two were tied up or the occasional right hand getting through. Two other fighters I didn't mention that Mayweather fought are Jesus Chavez, and Emanuel Burton. He also fought Henry Bruseles(yawn), and more impressively Demarcus Corley in close. My point is that Mayweather is a far more rounded fighter than Pacquaio, and a better athlete with a better chin.

One thing Floyd is not over Pac is a better athlete. Floyd is obviously the much sounder technical fighter. As it stands right now...Pac must be ranked higher than Floyd simply because his resume is much more impressive. He has fought 3 GREAT fighters in Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. As far as i'm concerned, Floyd has not fought one great fighter (and that includes Castillo). Does any of this mean that if Floyd and Pac fought...Floyd wouldn't win? No. But at least Pac can back up his pound for pound status with fights against great opposition.