WHAT A FIGHT!!!Is Manny P4P number1 now?.Let me know your thoughts!

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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Originally Posted by GAME

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Originally Posted by josef4334

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Originally Posted by GAME

If anythings Pacs sliding down the p4p rankings not going up .

He looked vunerable vs Barrera and Larios and now vs Marquez. Wheres his aggression and speed gone ? It looked like he was on his way out in round 8 but JMM has never been a finisher and let him survive .

Manny now needs to forget rematching old Mexicans and start his assult on the young fighters out there .

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are you saying marquez is old now? manny is fighting smart now. not something i want to see but at least he's improving.manny never looked like he was on his way out anywhere. jmm on the other hand did look like it a couple of times.

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I think Pac was wobbly at the end of round 2 and hurt again in teh 8th but Marquez is visibly slower now and didnt have it in the tank to follow it up . Marquez showed decent recovery to recover in the 3rd but he was hurt more by that knockdown than any other he has suffered and it may be down to age and recovery powers not being what they used to . Even though I think Marquez won I think if they fought for a 3rd time Marquez would have a tougher fight on his hands cuz that fight took alot out of him . I dont think it took alot out of Pac its just a bad performance from him .

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ohh ok.. i agree with you. i thought you will say like most people here always say that whenever pac wins he's fighting an old fighter. im a lil disappointed with how pac fought. i think he could have fought a more aggressive fight than that. i think that he's taking too much consideration for learning how to counterpunch and box. thats ok but thats not his bread and butter. his money maker is his aggressiveness and his hunger for the KO. on the other hand, i think JMM didnt do enough to seal the deal. he had pac hurt numerous time yet he stood back and took his time coz of his fear of getting countered again and hitting the deck again. jmm also got lucky on that 3rd round coz the KD came late in the round. it took him 4 mins to recover. 1 minute in between rounds and 3 mins while pac cautiously took his time to get him out. if there was no KD i would call it a draw or win JMM but you cannot ignore the points that a KD brings.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

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Originally Posted by Preme

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

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A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.:cool:

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by Preme

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

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A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.:cool:

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Uhhh what? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you are trying to say, but Mayweather gained a belt in 5 different division I think and Jones also managed to get 4 belts, and going from LMW to HW is much more impressive than what Pac has done (not to take anything away from Pac's great achievement). However, I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by brucelee

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Originally Posted by Preme

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

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A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.:cool:

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Uhhh what? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you are trying to say, but Mayweather gained a belt in 5 different division I think and Jones also managed to get 4 belts, and going from LMW to HW is much more impressive than what Pac has done (not to take anything away from Pac's great achievement). However, I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

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Yeah and Oscar won a belt in 6 divisions the most in history

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by brucelee

A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.:cool:

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Uhhh what? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you are trying to say, but Mayweather gained a belt in 5 different division I think and Jones also managed to get 4 belts, and going from LMW to HW is much more impressive than what Pac has done (not to take anything away from Pac's great achievement). However, I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

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Yeah and Oscar won a belt in 6 divisions the most in history

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ahhhhhh. sorry for that. I mean the only Asian who had done it.;D

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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Oh no comparison at all with Mayweather. His kind of wins of not trying to engage because he is being out powered, backs out, run along the ring, then tires his opponent and take the chance to score a few jabs or if lucky eg: versus Hatton knocks him down due to opponents frustration is a sort of gayish for me. He cant fight with face head on which some say is a smart boxing but pretty boring imo. While on the other hand Pacquiao will not back off a face to face aggression. He will pound and get pounded but still come up victorious which makes him the no. 1 p4p boxer. The excitement and drama with Pacquiaos' fight is way far above than Mayweathers boring tactics. A well deserve win for Pacquiao! the 3rd round knock down shouts the 1 point difference which the judge saw in favor of Pacquiao. The rest of the round has been an even exchange and we dont need to get technical with that.

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Originally Posted by deerhuntervc

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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Oh no comparison at all with Mayweather. His kind of wins of not trying to engage because he is being out powered, backs out, run along the ring, then tires his opponent and take the chance to score a few jabs or if lucky eg: versus Hatton knocks him down due to opponents frustration is a sort of gayish for me. He cant fight with face head on which some say is a smart boxing but pretty boring imo. While on the other hand Pacquiao will not back off a face to face aggression. He will pound and get pounded but still come up victorious which makes him the no. 1 p4p boxer. The excitement and drama with Pacquiaos' fight is way far above than Mayweathers boring tactics. A well deserve win for Pacquiao! the 3rd round knock down shouts the 1 point difference which the judge saw in favor of Pacquiao. The rest of the round has been an even exchange and we dont need to get technical with that.

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No true boxing and knowledgable boxing fan finds Floyd Mayweather boring. His style is stylistically beautiful. Boxing is the art of hitting and not being hit.

Floyd is the current era's undisputed master of that art.

Besides he's never been a fighter to fight scared as you suggest. He's slick and doesnt get hit but he's gone toe to toe plenty of times in his career and won every time.

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Originally Posted by Preme

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

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Thanks for putting that moron in his place guys. Most biased poster on here calls us all bias!

Your right Gamo it was a brilliant contest!!!

I could drop Pacquiao down to 3rd & move Marquez into 2nd as I believe Marquez deserved the victory but it was a very close battle so for now I'll keep Pac @ #2 & JMM @ #3

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by deerhuntervc

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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Oh no comparison at all with Mayweather. His kind of wins of not trying to engage because he is being out powered, backs out, run along the ring, then tires his opponent and take the chance to score a few jabs or if lucky eg: versus Hatton knocks him down due to opponents frustration is a sort of gayish for me. He cant fight with face head on which some say is a smart boxing but pretty boring imo. While on the other hand Pacquiao will not back off a face to face aggression. He will pound and get pounded but still come up victorious which makes him the no. 1 p4p boxer. The excitement and drama with Pacquiaos' fight is way far above than Mayweathers boring tactics. A well deserve win for Pacquiao! the 3rd round knock down shouts the 1 point difference which the judge saw in favor of Pacquiao. The rest of the round has been an even exchange and we dont need to get technical with that.

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No true boxing and knowledgable boxing fan finds Floyd Mayweather boring. His style is stylistically beautiful. Boxing is the art of hitting and not being hit.

Floyd is the current era's undisputed master of that art.

Besides he's never been a fighter to fight scared as you suggest. He's slick and doesnt get hit but he's gone toe to toe plenty of times in his career and won every time.

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No move up as Pac actually was hit more than in recent times

Pacquiao's performance did nothing to effect Floyds hold on the top position. If anything he is in jeopardy of being moved down a spot behind Marquez who I felt won

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Originally Posted by Preme

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

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I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

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that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

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have you ever seen floyd get hit flush? none right? anybody that could punch gets a 50/50 chance. how could you be so sure floyd ko's him? i wish manny and floyd were in the same division coz they will surely make the fight happen. now we will see who will shut up.

Marquez was able to box & counter punch Pacquiao many times through out that fight, Floyd would have a ball & do it with ease!!!