WHAT A FIGHT!!!Is Manny P4P number1 now?.Let me know your thoughts!

[Preme]

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

[brucelee]

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.

[CFH]

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.

Uhhh what? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you are trying to say, but Mayweather gained a belt in 5 different division I think and Jones also managed to get 4 belts, and going from LMW to HW is much more impressive than what Pac has done (not to take anything away from Pac's great achievement). However, I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

[Kev]

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.

Uhhh what? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you are trying to say, but Mayweather gained a belt in 5 different division I think and Jones also managed to get 4 belts, and going from LMW to HW is much more impressive than what Pac has done (not to take anything away from Pac's great achievement). However, I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

Yeah and Oscar won a belt in 6 divisions the most in history

[brucelee]

A win over DAvid Diaz next will surely make Pacquaio the only boxer who has 4 belts in 4 divisions.

That's history in the making. We better watch it guys coz when I get older and will be telling this history to my grandchildren, I would be such a proud grandpa to have witness it all.

Uhhh what? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you are trying to say, but Mayweather gained a belt in 5 different division I think and Jones also managed to get 4 belts, and going from LMW to HW is much more impressive than what Pac has done (not to take anything away from Pac's great achievement). However, I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

Yeah and Oscar won a belt in 6 divisions the most in history

ahhhhhh. sorry for that. I mean the only Asian who had done it.

[eagle]

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

Thanks for putting that moron in his place guys. Most biased poster on here calls us all bias!

[Bx730NY]

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

Thanks for putting that moron in his place guys. Most biased poster on here calls us all bias!

Biased? Moron? Man you guys know less about boxing than I originally thought.

Well everyone knows how much the truth hurts pretty badly so I guess I'll try to empathize your pain.

BTW, none of you guys have enough boxing knowledge to ever put me in my place and that becomes more evident with every passing post.

Think about it, on one hand you guys are trying to compare floyds resume to Pacs and hoping they will be matched against each other, while on the other hand, you have a REAL boxing fan with ACTUAL knowledge hoping to see floyd fight the best challenge out there in Cotto.

You guys have rolled snake eyes with every excuse regarding floyd not fighting Cotto.

Who's left for Cotto to beat?

He beat Quintana who beat Williams who beat Margarito who beat Cintron. You throw Shane and Zab into that mix and you have yourself the real undisputed WW champion.

[ICB]

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

Thanks for putting that moron in his place guys. Most biased poster on here calls us all bias!

Biased? Moron? Man you guys know less about boxing than I originally thought.

Well everyone knows how much the truth hurts pretty badly so I guess I'll try to empathize your pain.

BTW, none of you guys have enough boxing knowledge to ever put me in my place and that becomes more evident with every passing post.

Think about it, on one hand you guys are trying to compare floyds resume to Pacs and hoping they will be matched against each other, while on the other hand, you have a REAL boxing fan with ACTUAL knowledge hoping to see floyd fight the best challenge out there in Cotto.

You guys have rolled snake eyes with every excuse regarding floyd not fighting Cotto.

Who's left for Cotto to beat?

He beat Quintana who beat Williams who beat Margarito who beat Cintron. You throw Shane and Zab into that mix and you have yourself the real undisputed WW champion.

Well its pretty simple answer to your question P4P is not only about opposition, its about skills as well and lets be honest here. P4P Mayweather is much better than Pacquiao in every department except for power. Plus Mayweather has had more quality wins that Pacquiao has.

Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo x2
ODLH
Angel Manfredy
Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton
Zab Judah

Manny Pacquiao has.

Erik Morales x2
MAB x2
JMM
Oscar Larios
Jorge Solis

Now those 3 names on Pacquiao's record are very impressive, but we are talking about a whole career here. And its pretty easy to see Mayweather has beaten more quality opposition than Pacquiao has. He also has more achievements than Pacquiao has winning 5 world titles in 5 different weight classes. Plus i don't see why Pacquiao should move to number 1 after getting a very controversial decision against Marquez in which more people think Marquez won than the other way around. Where as Mayweather dominated a P4P fighter in his last fight against Ricky Hatton and KO'd him. I think your just looking at those 3 names on Pacquiao's record and basing it on that, and your not looking at Mayweather's or Pacquiao's whole careers. IMO its not a hard question to answer Mayweather is rated higher than Pacquiao P4P because he has more quality wins than Pacquiao, Mayweather also P4P is a better fighter than Pacquiao quite easily IMO, Mayweather also has more achievements.

[Bx730NY]

Thanks for putting that moron in his place guys. Most biased poster on here calls us all bias!

Biased? Moron? Man you guys know less about boxing than I originally thought.

Well everyone knows how much the truth hurts pretty badly so I guess I'll try to empathize your pain.

BTW, none of you guys have enough boxing knowledge to ever put me in my place and that becomes more evident with every passing post.

Think about it, on one hand you guys are trying to compare floyds resume to Pacs and hoping they will be matched against each other, while on the other hand, you have a REAL boxing fan with ACTUAL knowledge hoping to see floyd fight the best challenge out there in Cotto.

You guys have rolled snake eyes with every excuse regarding floyd not fighting Cotto.

Who's left for Cotto to beat?

He beat Quintana who beat Williams who beat Margarito who beat Cintron. You throw Shane and Zab into that mix and you have yourself the real undisputed WW champion.

Well its pretty simple answer to your question P4P is not only about opposition, its about skills as well and lets be honest here. P4P Mayweather is much better than Pacquiao in every department except for power. Plus Mayweather has had more quality wins that Pacquiao has.

Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo x2
ODLH
Angel Manfredy
Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton
Zab Judah

Manny Pacquiao has.

Erik Morales x2
MAB x2
JMM
Oscar Larios
Jorge Solis

Now those 3 names on Pacquiao's record are very impressive, but we are talking about a whole career here. And its pretty easy to see Mayweather has beaten more quality opposition than Pacquiao has. He also has more achievements than Pacquiao has winning 5 world titles in 5 different weight classes. Plus i don't see why Pacquiao should move to number 1 after getting a very controversial decision against Marquez in which more people think Marquez won than the other way around. Where as Mayweather dominated a P4P fighter in his last fight against Ricky Hatton and KO'd him. I think your just looking at those 3 names on Pacquiao's record and basing it on that, and your not looking at Mayweather's or Pacquiao's whole careers. IMO its not a hard question to answer Mayweather is rated higher than Pacquiao P4P because he has more quality wins than Pacquiao, Mayweather also P4P is a better fighter than Pacquiao quite easily IMO, Mayweather also has more achievements.

All this coming from a guy who was hoping for a Marquez victory and judged the fight with a blind eye the first time around.

You let these guys get in your head and rescored the fight to please them. Me on the other hand, I have real knowledge and don't need people to tell me whats true or not true.

Too many of you guys are followers and can't think for yourselves. Pitty.

You can do all the research you want but you will likely never have the eye for boxing that I have.

[ICB]

Biased? Moron? Man you guys know less about boxing than I originally thought.

Well everyone knows how much the truth hurts pretty badly so I guess I'll try to empathize your pain.

BTW, none of you guys have enough boxing knowledge to ever put me in my place and that becomes more evident with every passing post.

Think about it, on one hand you guys are trying to compare floyds resume to Pacs and hoping they will be matched against each other, while on the other hand, you have a REAL boxing fan with ACTUAL knowledge hoping to see floyd fight the best challenge out there in Cotto.

You guys have rolled snake eyes with every excuse regarding floyd not fighting Cotto.

Who's left for Cotto to beat?

He beat Quintana who beat Williams who beat Margarito who beat Cintron. You throw Shane and Zab into that mix and you have yourself the real undisputed WW champion.

Well its pretty simple answer to your question P4P is not only about opposition, its about skills as well and lets be honest here. P4P Mayweather is much better than Pacquiao in every department except for power. Plus Mayweather has had more quality wins that Pacquiao has.

Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo x2
ODLH
Angel Manfredy
Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton
Zab Judah

Manny Pacquiao has.

Erik Morales x2
MAB x2
JMM
Oscar Larios
Jorge Solis

Now those 3 names on Pacquiao's record are very impressive, but we are talking about a whole career here. And its pretty easy to see Mayweather has beaten more quality opposition than Pacquiao has. He also has more achievements than Pacquiao has winning 5 world titles in 5 different weight classes. Plus i don't see why Pacquiao should move to number 1 after getting a very controversial decision against Marquez in which more people think Marquez won than the other way around. Where as Mayweather dominated a P4P fighter in his last fight against Ricky Hatton and KO'd him. I think your just looking at those 3 names on Pacquiao's record and basing it on that, and your not looking at Mayweather's or Pacquiao's whole careers. IMO its not a hard question to answer Mayweather is rated higher than Pacquiao P4P because he has more quality wins than Pacquiao, Mayweather also P4P is a better fighter than Pacquiao quite easily IMO, Mayweather also has more achievements.

All this coming from a guy who was hoping for a Marquez victory and judged the fight with a blind eye the first time around.

You let these guys get in your head and rescored the fight to please them. Me on the other hand, I have real knowledge and don't need people to tell me whats true or not true.

Too many of you guys are followers and can't think for yourselves. Pitty.

You can do all the research you want but you will likely never have the eye for boxing that I have.

Are you frigging kidding me ?? i actually do boxing and i have been following boxing for about 10 years and i do come from a boxing family. I changed my scoring because at the time i was doing RBR and i missed some things, the 2nd time i watched it in better quality my scoring did slightly change because i had missed some things and Pacquiao did a bit better than i thought, and he landed more punches than i thought he did. I changed the scoring on my own accord not because of anyone else, I go with my own opinion. You keep bragging about how good your boxing knowledge is and how no one can counter your argument well i just did and you had no reply to it.

[Bx730NY]

Well its pretty simple answer to your question P4P is not only about opposition, its about skills as well and lets be honest here. P4P Mayweather is much better than Pacquiao in every department except for power. Plus Mayweather has had more quality wins that Pacquiao has.

Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo x2
ODLH
Angel Manfredy
Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton
Zab Judah

Manny Pacquiao has.

Erik Morales x2
MAB x2
JMM
Oscar Larios
Jorge Solis

Now those 3 names on Pacquiao's record are very impressive, but we are talking about a whole career here. And its pretty easy to see Mayweather has beaten more quality opposition than Pacquiao has. He also has more achievements than Pacquiao has winning 5 world titles in 5 different weight classes. Plus i don't see why Pacquiao should move to number 1 after getting a very controversial decision against Marquez in which more people think Marquez won than the other way around. Where as Mayweather dominated a P4P fighter in his last fight against Ricky Hatton and KO'd him. I think your just looking at those 3 names on Pacquiao's record and basing it on that, and your not looking at Mayweather's or Pacquiao's whole careers. IMO its not a hard question to answer Mayweather is rated higher than Pacquiao P4P because he has more quality wins than Pacquiao, Mayweather also P4P is a better fighter than Pacquiao quite easily IMO, Mayweather also has more achievements.

All this coming from a guy who was hoping for a Marquez victory and judged the fight with a blind eye the first time around.

You let these guys get in your head and rescored the fight to please them. Me on the other hand, I have real knowledge and don't need people to tell me whats true or not true.

Too many of you guys are followers and can't think for yourselves. Pitty.

You can do all the research you want but you will likely never have the eye for boxing that I have.

Are you frigging kidding me ?? i actually do boxing and i have been following boxing for about 10 years and i do come from a boxing family. I changed my scoring because at the time i was doing RBR and i missed some things, the 2nd time i watched it in better quality my scoring did slightly change because i had missed some things and Pacquiao did a bit better than i thought, and he landed more punches than i thought he did. I changed the scoring on my own accord not because of anyone else, I go with my own opinion. You keep bragging about how good your boxing knowledge is and how no one can counter your argument well i just did and you had no reply to it.

Hey man, the truth is you been slippin lately and your posts have lost some steam.

That's why I don't care about the whole rep system and all that like you. You always try to say all the right things to please people that you think are your buddies in here while I continually drop gems on all.

If you do come from boxing family and all that then you need to get your focus back man because I used to actually enjoy reading your posts until somewhere along the line you lost your focus.

I don't need to break down my whole pedigree on you about my boxing knowledge but it's clear from the posting that I'm a realist. I don't rely on misinformation or compare past guys with current ones or try to act like I know Ali and those type of guys fight game inside and out. What I do know is the here and now.

You can rate a guy who looks great against non worthy opposition as high as you want but it takes away from your credibility , not mine. I rate a guy by accomplishments.

If a guy wins a world title in 8 weight classes by fighting the most vulnerable guys it doesnt mean as much a guy fighting in the same loaded wight class his whole career and fighting the best fighters in the world.

[ono]

Thanks for putting that moron in his place guys. Most biased poster on here calls us all bias!

Biased? Moron? Man you guys know less about boxing than I originally thought.

Well everyone knows how much the truth hurts pretty badly so I guess I'll try to empathize your pain.

BTW, none of you guys have enough boxing knowledge to ever put me in my place and that becomes more evident with every passing post.

Think about it, on one hand you guys are trying to compare floyds resume to Pacs and hoping they will be matched against each other, while on the other hand, you have a REAL boxing fan with ACTUAL knowledge hoping to see floyd fight the best challenge out there in Cotto.

You guys have rolled snake eyes with every excuse regarding floyd not fighting Cotto.

Who's left for Cotto to beat?

He beat Quintana who beat Williams who beat Margarito who beat Cintron. You throw Shane and Zab into that mix and you have yourself the real undisputed WW champion.

Well its pretty simple answer to your question P4P is not only about opposition, its about skills as well and lets be honest here. P4P Mayweather is much better than Pacquiao in every department except for power. Plus Mayweather has had more quality wins that Pacquiao has.

Genaro Hernandez
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Diego Corrales
Jose Luis Castillo x2
ODLH
Angel Manfredy
Arturo Gatti
Ricky Hatton
Zab Judah

Manny Pacquiao has.

Erik Morales x2
MAB x2
JMM
Oscar Larios
Jorge Solis

Now those 3 names on Pacquiao's record are very impressive, but we are talking about a whole career here. And its pretty easy to see Mayweather has beaten more quality opposition than Pacquiao has. He also has more achievements than Pacquiao has winning 5 world titles in 5 different weight classes. Plus i don't see why Pacquiao should move to number 1 after getting a very controversial decision against Marquez in which more people think Marquez won than the other way around. Where as Mayweather dominated a P4P fighter in his last fight against Ricky Hatton and KO'd him. I think your just looking at those 3 names on Pacquiao's record and basing it on that, and your not looking at Mayweather's or Pacquiao's whole careers. IMO its not a hard question to answer Mayweather is rated higher than Pacquiao P4P because he has more quality wins than Pacquiao, Mayweather also P4P is a better fighter than Pacquiao quite easily IMO, Mayweather also has more achievements.

Very well said.

At the end of the day, if they weighed the same and fought, i'd expect a Mayweather victory time and time again.

That's not a knock on Pac by the way. He's awesome, i just think Mayweather is extra extra special.

[josef4334]

Pacs record speaks for itself. He's p4p #1 right now. You can argue that floyd is #1 all u want but looking great against mediocre to good competition doesn't compare with looking great against great competition.

You guys are a bunch of bias fans that are willing to keep floyd at #1 no matter how little he does or how much the REAL fighters do. I still don't know how good floyd is and neither do you because he doesn't take any risky fights.

Beating a version of DLH that had 1 fight in like 3 or 4 years and knocking out Hatton who continually came in with his hands down asking to get KTFO hardly qualifies as p4p worthy.

It's simple math, Pac is deserving of the p4p crown.

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

have you ever seen floyd get hit flush? none right? anybody that could punch gets a 50/50 chance. how could you be so sure floyd ko's him? i wish manny and floyd were in the same division coz they will surely make the fight happen. now we will see who will shut up.

[Galaxy]

Marquez was able to box & counter punch Pacquiao many times through out that fight, Floyd would have a ball & do it with ease!!!

[ono]

I think beating De La Hoya at 154 is a bigger win than Pacquaio beating Marquez by controversial decision, especially when you factor in the amount of damage Pacquaio absorbed.

And hatton was the undisiputed, undefeated junior welterweight champ and Floyd simply annihilated him.

Pacquiao won by the skin of his teeth, at least three quarters of people here think he lost. There were several times he looked out on his feet.

there's no comparison,Floyd isa different league altogether.

that and the fact floyd has been at that weight and won a belt there.

pac vs floyd at that weight? floyd would KO him no question.

have you ever seen floyd get hit flush? none right? anybody that could punch gets a 50/50 chance. how could you be so sure floyd ko's him? i wish manny and floyd were in the same division coz they will surely make the fight happen. now we will see who will shut up.

With all of the world class fighters he has fought, surely that only emphasizes how great he is. You've just pissed on your own bonfire there mate