Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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JT Rock
None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS
See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.
Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him:confused: The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...
I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. :horseshit: HorseShit!!!!!!!
dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy
I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....
Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....
You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...
McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....
All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....
What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...
So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....
The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....
Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.
I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.
Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.
So I can see JT's point..........
But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.
I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.
So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.
Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko:rolleyes:
Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..
Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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JT Rock
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Bilbo
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DaxxKahn
I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....
Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....
You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...
McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....
All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....
What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...
So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....
The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....
Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.
I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.
Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.
So I can see JT's point..........
But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.
I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.
So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.
Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko:rolleyes:
Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..
Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years
I will say it again... Wlad by brutal KO in round 7.
I will also say again that JT only watches boxing to watch the shimmery, half naked man bodys grunt their way around a ring...
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Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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JT Rock
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Bilbo
Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.
I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.
Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.
So I can see JT's point..........
But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.
I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.
So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.
Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko:rolleyes:
Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..
Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years
I will say it again... Wlad by brutal KO in round 7.
I will also say again that JT only watches boxing to watch the shimmery, half naked man bodys grunt their way around a ring...
;)
Is that why you volunteer to be the fluffer and the oil guy... Hey bud they only want the vasoline on their face not there chest and bum:-X
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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JT Rock
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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JT Rock
Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko:rolleyes:
Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..
Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years
I will say it again... Wlad by brutal KO in round 7.
I will also say again that JT only watches boxing to watch the shimmery, half naked man bodys grunt their way around a ring...
;)
Is that why you volunteer to be the fluffer and the oil guy... Hey bud they only want the vasoline on their face not there chest
and bum:-X
Oh, thought you were coming to the fight... Just the face then;D
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
Haye has not done anything worth credit in heavyweight division except for beat a fat slob (who klitchko would have killed) by running away from him. British may call it a technique, and to some extent i can understand why haye did it, but that's not heavy weight boxing, that's BS.
Haye does not have 1/999999 the heart that he claims to have, he might be quick but there is no way he can avoid klitchko's blows for 12 rounds, klitchko is smarter and more experienced, wlad is well conditioned, and he punches WAY harder than haye as well. Haye is just another loud mouth poser. There were 56 of them just like him, 53 lost, 47 got knocked out, and only 3 MIRACULOUSLY won.
If Gaye ever mans up to actually sign the contract,he will be in for the beating of his lifetime. :boxing:
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
When was Bonin ever a top 10 guy in the division??? Maybe by a sanctioning body or some stupid website but no way anyone ever thought he was that special.
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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Haye has a bit of a big mouth but at least he wants to fight the very best out there and you cant ask for more than that off him.
I thnk Haye will bring a breath of fresh air to the HW division.
PErsonally, I think that if ever Haye (because he backed off 2 times already) fights one of the Klitschko, he ends up with a special delivery #3 in his trouser, 2 black eyes and two fists on the canvas before the 7th.
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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I have said this about other guys who pull stunts like Haye has been with Wlad and often it comes true...
I don't care how skilled Haye feels he is or how much punching power he feels he has...Or how much he and others feel Wlad is robotic or has a soft chin etc...
Wlad has scary power and he has proven it...Also while Wlad is mostly soft spoken and mild mannered there is a limit to everyones patience....
The last thing Haye wants (Or anyone else for that matter) is a fight witha pissed off 6'6" 250lb HW champion with his kind of power looking to take your head off....
A while back another guy who had won the title form a 6'5" 240lb HW champion acted like Haye is now trying to embaress him and trash talking a bit too much....and take a look below to see how that ended:-\...
Like they say becareful what you wish for...There is also a reason why they say Let sleeping Giants lie
Would agree with you usually but we are not talking about Ivan Drago. Klitschko is as safety 1st and tentative as they come. Tell me the last time you saw Wlad agressive and assurting himself
Have you ever seen a klitchko fights? :cwm27: lol when he wants to take risks, he brutally knocks people out.
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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Haye has a bit of a big mouth but at least he wants to fight the very best out there and you cant ask for more than that off him.
I thnk Haye will bring a breath of fresh air to the HW division.
PErsonally, I think that if ever Haye (because he backed off 2 times already) fights one of the Klitschko, he ends up with a special delivery #3 in his trouser, 2 black eyes and two fists on the canvas before the 7th.
Personally, i think Haye will set multiple world records when he fights klitchko.... most 40 yard dashes inside a ring.... quickest dash...first person that has to be dragged inside the ring, most brutally knocked out boxer of all time... ;D
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The only problem Haye has is he isn't american. the people on here slating him would be hanging off him if he was a fellow yank.
I believe Haye has the skills to beat either Klitscho and he's the ONLY heavyweight that could give either of them a decent fight. And they both know that.
Haye will annihilate Ruiz and then they're going to have to give him another chance.
Haye is a breath of fresh air from the overweight, talentless, charismaless heavyweights in the sport at the moment.
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This is WAY old! :-\
And im sick of all the Haye haters on this forum comon guys boxing's about upsets and Haye smashing the Klits sisters would be one bad ass upset! Plus it can only do good for the sport, a big mouthed cool heavyweight champion will get more casual fans wanting to watch the PPV's!:)
Re: haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!
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This is WAY old! :-\
And im sick of all the Haye haters on this forum comon guys boxing's about upsets and Haye smashing the Klits sisters would be one bad ass upset! Plus it can only do good for the sport, a big mouthed cool heavyweight champion will get more casual fans wanting to watch the PPV's!:)
I'm tired of Brits who talk a bunch of shit and then end up splattered all over the canvas because they are only the best fighter of the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNO1KuwK8d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSpfIPHZ-JI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzP91Rn0wSE
....and next on that list is that PUNK B*TCH with the WBA belt and hopefully he'll get smacked down like those Brits before him.
....I don't hate British people, just the guys who have the chip on their shoulder for no good reason. If it makes you feel better I dislike Americans that do the very same thing like Sergio Mora and Paulie Malinaggi...I only wish they would get stomped out in such spectacular fashion, Hatton, Khan, and Bisping really set the bar high. I wouldn't mind Kelly pavlik catching a couple punches like that.
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i honestly thought this was an internet viral worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as "chocolate rain" and "leave britney alone"
Wlad does himself proud, haye makes himself look like an absoloute mug....nothing changes!!!!!!!!!!
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Lyle
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mattboxingfan
This is WAY old! :-\
And im sick of all the Haye haters on this forum comon guys boxing's about upsets and Haye smashing the Klits sisters would be one bad ass upset! Plus it can only do good for the sport, a big mouthed cool heavyweight champion will get more casual fans wanting to watch the PPV's!:)
I'm tired of Brits who talk a bunch of shit and then end up splattered all over the canvas because they are only the best fighter of the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNO1KuwK8d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSpfIPHZ-JI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzP91Rn0wSE
....and next on that list is that PUNK B*TCH with the WBA belt and hopefully he'll get smacked down like those Brits before him.
....I don't hate British people, just the guys who have the chip on their shoulder for no good reason. If it makes you feel better I dislike Americans that do the very same thing like Sergio Mora and Paulie Malinaggi...I only wish they would get stomped out in such spectacular fashion, Hatton, Khan, and Bisping really set the bar high. I wouldn't mind Kelly pavlik catching a couple punches like that.
Thats all fair and well but in two of those three i was rooting for the other guy as opposed to the brit (Hendo and Prescot) And guess what im tired of Klit fans! And ill be sure to rub this one in your face when Haye pulls of the win and hopefully shuts down that fucking robot!
