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None of the guys you mentioned ARE UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED CHAMPIONS OF THEIR DIVISION LIKE HAYE IS



See above post, + plus correct me if I'm wrong but I'm seeing about an 8-10 pound difference between the Crusisers from the late 80's till now, and the quality of Heavies is dramatically weaker.





Again Haye beat the man to become the man and then beat the #1 contender and now has decided to fight at Heavy what more was there to do for him The fact is people still hold on to the fact that the Heavy weight division should be viewed with reverence and some majestic romance of yesteryear... When the fact is the Heavyweight division is piss poor quality and lacking the most depth than any division in Boxing today...

I believe that after Wlad fights his Mandatories and Wlad wins than most certainly this fight should happen.... Again whats wrong with Haye being outlandish and trying to get his name out there, the man is young, strong athletic and has a flair for showmanship, all of a sudden we rather have a robotic version of Dr Zhivago who is as tentative and scared to fight. HorseShit!!!!!!!





dont worry about me man I see the bigger picture, its you who puts your faith in a 250lb pussy

I don't know JT Lyle talks sense...Think about it mate...What has Haye done at HW?...Why does he garner a bout with Wlad over everyone else?...What about some unifacation bouts?....What about hm fighting a top 10 guy first?....Sultan is 1 fight from his reign as champion....

Povetkin is undefeated, Thompson, Dimitrienko, Virchis, Valuev.....

You may not like them or feel they are worthy but all have put in their work...

McCline while has lost his last 3 was somewhat cheated out of his win over Peter....Not fair to just overlook him and Give a CW a title shot...Ruiz is back and looking damn! good...Boring in the past yes but an established vet who is fighting a new style and capable of wrestling a strap from anyone....He was cheated out of his title flat and that part is a fact.....

All these guys have put in years not a few fights to keep in the title picture....

What has Haye really done?...OK he beat Mormeck and Enzo but before that can you name 3 top 10 opp or even top 15 ranked guys off the top of your head?....Just a bunch of padded names and that is a fact...

So padded that 1 fight before Mormeck he beat Bonin who had something like a 35-1 record but was not even considered a top 25 fighter in the CW division.....

The current crop of heavy's may be a weak one but the guys have put in their tim to stay in the mix and not be overlooked for a recently crowned champion who has a poor resume....
Actually Bonin was a big win he was top 10 ranked in the heavyweight division.

I can see where JT is coming from to an extent. When it comes to undisputed champs we expect them to move up and challenge the best straight away. Hopkins moving up to face Tarver, Calzaghe moving up to face Hopkins, Hatton moving up to face Mayweather. Everyone is moaning because Pacman's first fight at lightweight is only against one of the lesser champs and not Campbell or Casamayor.

Rafael Marquez moved up to face Israel Vazquez etc.

So I can see JT's point..........

But David Haye is being such a fucking tool in the way he's acting that he just makes me want to see him get the absolute shit kicked out of him.













I will say this though, a trash talking tool who can't back his shit up I hate, a trash talking tool who is able to back his shit up and do what he claims........they earn my respect.

So when Haye moves up I'll root against him, but if he does pull it off I'll give him the respect he deserves.
Thanks Bilbo, thats exactly my point about #1's moving up and fighting the next best division fighter... Happens all the time but all of a sudden Haye is from Mars because he wants Klitschko

Cocky as he is I'll take charisma and flash over Mr Roboto... Haye accompolished what he set out to do, he has the boards buzzing with negative and positive attention which translates to public interest..

Lets face it the division hasnt seen this kind of anticipation in years