Pavlik vs Hopkins seriously being talked about for Oct 18th

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

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Originally Posted by Deanrw

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Like I posted in another thread, if Pavlik takes this fight then I will lose all respect for him, its plain fukin garbage:mad:

Pavlik should be fighting Abraham to lock down the MW division, and people were pissed at Mayweather for doing this kind of thing:rolleyes:

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I cannot see the Pavlik Abraham fight happening anytime soon. Maybe way far down the road.

Abraham has no name here. Pavlik is not a big name himself. You know both camps will want 10's of millions to accept the fight and no promoter will risk losing that much of his shirt for a superfight between two unknown champions. With Abraham's promoter's and some of their shady work, there is no way pavlik would fight in Germany either.

This fight has a bigger chance of never happening than happening.

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Really? I think if Abraham and Pavlik win their respective matches, and if Calzaghe doesn't call Pavlik out after his fight with Jones, Abraham and Pavlik will easily be each other's next fight.

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I think each camp will overprice themselves.

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Originally Posted by amat

You're wrong JT, Hopkins can win. I think he beat Calzaghe as did a lot of people, he even knocked him down. He's a master at neutralizing his opponent's offense and dumbing down a fight to his pace. No doubt he would give Pavlik a very close fight.

You're honestly telling me that Williams has a better shot at Pavlik? Ok you can join Paul Williams as the only 2 people on Earth who actually believe that.

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I didnt say I thought he have a better shot, what I sais was he make a fight out of it.. Now turn it into a foul fest... out of all those guys I give Winky the best shot at beating him

What about you boy Andre Ward... I rather see Pavlik fight him at 168 than Hopkins

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

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Originally Posted by Fenster

It would be interesting just to see how crap Hopkins would make Pavlik look and how BORING a fight Hopkins could make it.

Also.. Pavlik would win BUT I guarantee half this forum will claim Hopkins was ROBBED!! Fact.

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I think it was more about people's dislike for Calzaghe rather than a love for Hopkins. A lot in here hate his style of slapping, including me. I can see how either man could've been given the nod between them two, but I dislike Joe more than the next guy but I thought he won...

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Calzaghe? Calzaghe has nothing to do with Hopkins unique ability to BORE!!!

Hopkins is the GREATEST fighter in history at making fights BORING!!! Pavlik is currently a Grade 1 boxing entertainer. Hopkins WILL make his fight with Pavlik (should it happen) BORINGLY forgettable.

So BORING people will believe his 3 punches per round style WON him the fight. Fact.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

So in the meantime he cant go up to 168? there are plenty of decent guys, I mean all joking aside I rather see him fight Carl Froch just because the fight will have some explosive quality to it, but not a old boring, hit and old throwing 5 punches around and 2 are legal type fight... No thank you I rather watch him fight a LIVE opponent not a slipping 45 year old fighter

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Bernard Hopkins at 55 would probably still be better than Carl Froch is now. If you don't like Bernard's style of fighting, then that's your right, but that doesn't mean Hopkins isn't a worthy opponent for Pavlik.

If you said, "I don't want to see Pavlik fight Hopkins because I don't enjoy Bernard's style" then I wouldn't be disagreeing with that, because that would be a fair opinion. But that's different from "If Pavlik fights Hopkins, I'll lose all respect for him and that fight is garbage."

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Again its a crap fight plain and simple... No way Hopkins wins and if he does I'll have his ugly face as an avatar pic for a year.. Whats wrong with pavlik having a fight with a lively opponent:confused:

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Then I would be interested to hear a list of possible opponents who would have a better shot at beating Pavlik than Bernard Hopkins.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Bernard Hopkins at 55 would probably still be better than Carl Froch is now. If you don't like Bernard's style of fighting, then that's your right, but that doesn't mean Hopkins isn't a worthy opponent for Pavlik.

If you said, "I don't want to see Pavlik fight Hopkins because I don't enjoy Bernard's style" then I wouldn't be disagreeing with that, because that would be a fair opinion. But that's different from "If Pavlik fights Hopkins, I'll lose all respect for him and that fight is garbage."

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Again its a crap fight plain and simple... No way Hopkins wins and if he does I'll have his ugly face as an avatar pic for a year.. Whats wrong with pavlik having a fight with a lively opponent:confused:

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Then I would be interested to hear a list of possible opponents who would have a better shot at beating Pavlik than Bernard Hopkins.

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I agree with Fenster 10000000000000% this is a low risk fight since if it goes the distance Hopkins will have landed 36 punches total while boring the whole friggin arena... But its Bernard I cant just fade away and let the spot light go Hopkins so we will be treated with this garbage... I would like to see Pavlik in the ring with a fighter that has a pulse for chrisesakes!!

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

Bernard Hopkins at 55 would probably still be better than Carl Froch is now. If you don't like Bernard's style of fighting, then that's your right, but that doesn't mean Hopkins isn't a worthy opponent for Pavlik.

If you said, "I don't want to see Pavlik fight Hopkins because I don't enjoy Bernard's style" then I wouldn't be disagreeing with that, because that would be a fair opinion. But that's different from "If Pavlik fights Hopkins, I'll lose all respect for him and that fight is garbage."

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Again its a crap fight plain and simple... No way Hopkins wins and if he does I'll have his ugly face as an avatar pic for a year.. Whats wrong with pavlik having a fight with a lively opponent:confused:

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Then I would be interested to hear a list of possible opponents who would have a better shot at beating Pavlik than Bernard Hopkins.

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I can only hope Hopkins gets sparked out.... I would rather see him in with a guy that will make a fight out of it... Hopkins wont and all of you know it, you all just being sentimental and tied to the romance of Hopkins of 5 years ago... This fight will be as exciting as a Zaheer Raheem or John Ruiz fight...

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Again its a crap fight plain and simple... No way Hopkins wins and if he does I'll have his ugly face as an avatar pic for a year.. Whats wrong with pavlik having a fight with a lively opponent:confused:

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Then I would be interested to hear a list of possible opponents who would have a better shot at beating Pavlik than Bernard Hopkins.

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I can only hope Hopkins gets sparked out.... I would rather see him in with a guy that will make a fight out of it... Hopkins wont and all of you know it, you all just being sentimental and tied to the romance of Hopkins of 5 years ago... This fight will be as exciting as a Zaheer Raheem or John Ruiz fight...

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I agree with you, JT, there is far more entertaining fights for Pavlik, although I don't see Hopkins as a terrible fight (although totally predictable), simply because Pavlik will be matched with much worse (Gary Lockett jobs (gimmes)) ;)

I think if Kelly fights and beats Hopkins, then the fight with Joe will become more lucrative. A win over Hopkins is never easy and it would prove Pavlik is for real.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Again its a crap fight plain and simple... No way Hopkins wins and if he does I'll have his ugly face as an avatar pic for a year.. Whats wrong with pavlik having a fight with a lively opponent:confused:

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Then I would be interested to hear a list of possible opponents who would have a better shot at beating Pavlik than Bernard Hopkins.

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I agree with Fenster 10000000000000% this is a low risk fight since if it goes the distance Hopkins will have landed 36 punches total while boring the whole friggin arena... But its Bernard I cant just fade away and let the spot light go Hopkins so we will be treated with this garbage... I would like to see Pavlik in the ring with a fighter that has a pulse for chrisesakes!!

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He fought his mandatory now let him beat some ass. If he was to step up I would rather see him fight Winky or Kessler. Hopkins will finally be retired after the beating that Pavlik would unlease on him. Look if this fight happens at the after fight photos of Hopkins face after the Calzaghe fight and then compare it to what he looks like after he is ran through a meat grinder with Pavlik.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I would rather see Pavlik vs. Abraham than any of the other fights listed. Then after Calzaghe/Jones look into Pavlik/Calzaghe.

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I agree with the first part i'd much rather see Abraham-Pavlik but I think Calzaghe will go for an easy fight after his beating off Roy!

As much as i think this is a pretty bad decision for Pavlik, as there are other opponents he could be fighting.. it is almost a PERFECT situaton..

I don't see Bhop beating Pavlik, i see Pavlik KO'ing Bhop, or winning a very large UD..

But the reason why this is perfect, is that Pavlik will destroy Hopkins, and if Calzaghe beats RJJ then there will be so much talk about Pavlik/Calzaghe that it will almost be forced to be made.. Which is all i can hope for..

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Originally Posted by eagle

I think if Kelly fights and beats Hopkins, then the fight with Joe will become more lucrative. A win over Hopkins is never easy and it would prove Pavlik is for real.

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Great post.. It will totally shut any type of Calzaghe banter up.. Like when he said Pavlik hasn't earned a chance.. well if he beats Hopkins who Calzaghe BARELY beat, while Pavlik is only 26, especially if Pavlik wins by KO, then, man, Calzaghe will almost HAVE to fight Pavlik, or else he'll be under even more criticism than he already has been..

The fight is happening at 170 on October 18th.

ESPN - Pavlik-Hopkins fight slated for Oct. 18, promoter says - Boxing

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

The fight is happening at 170 on October 18th.

ESPN - Pavlik-Hopkins fight slated for Oct. 18, promoter says - Boxing

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That didn't take long....so be It!I am all over the map on this one.Pavlik looks like an assassin when guys stand in front of him....Nevermind,too early for the thought expenditures for this one :-X Good heads up Kirkland.

It is funny how Calzaghe fans were commending Joe for fighting Hopkins and saying how great the win was. Now Pavlik lines up the Nard and some of the same ppl criticise him for fighting an old over the hill man.....